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    Thread: VR6 and V6

    1. 05-13-2003 07:02 PM #26
      I was just asking, so stay cool
      12V.... good one, so VW just added 12 others and wow new engine... I'm asking more in details if possible...

    2. 05-13-2003 07:45 PM #27
      Quote, originally posted by donlj »
      I was just asking, so stay cool
      12V.... good one, so VW just added 12 others and wow new engine... I'm asking more in details if possible...

      They also changed the design of the way the cams/valves operate. Now one cam operates all intake valves on both banks, and one cam operates all exhaust valves on both banks. So, half the valves sort of go sideways from one bank to the next. VW did this so they could do variable valve timing (absent from 12v).

    3. 05-14-2003 09:06 AM #28
      ok! thanks... I heard about that...
      do you know when exhaust manifold will be available for the 24v??? thanks!

    4. 05-14-2003 09:35 AM #29
      Quote, originally posted by donlj »
      ok! thanks... I heard about that...
      do you know when exhaust manifold will be available for the 24v??? thanks!
      why, have you seen the stock one. probably not because its actually two (2) three into one headers or (six into two) they actually are more than adequate unless going over 300hp or so.

    5. 05-14-2003 11:43 AM #30
      this entire post is
      12v and 24v are both VR6 motors...difference is of course #of valves and a variable intake.
      12v=174
      24v=201

    6. 06-02-2003 01:56 AM #31
      So for those of us keeping score it all boils down to marketing.

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      06-02-2003 03:38 AM #32
      Quote, originally posted by donlj »
      No the V6 24v 204hp engine is not called VR6 so how can you say "Golf IV VR6" if it's not a VR6 style? the one with 174hp yes it's a VR6 but not the V6 24v which I'm talking of...
      look at the difference:
      VR6 (symmetric engine) and V6 (asymmetric engine)


      Modified by donlj at 11:10 AM 5-12-2003

      the V6 you posted a head flow picture of is actually NOT in a Golf (or anything else built on the A4 platform [thats the A4 chassis, not the Audi A4 car])
      it is a 30 valve motor mounted longitudinaly in the vehicle (tranny behind rather than beside)
      the V6 found in golfs are a 24v VR6 ... single head design

    8. 06-03-2003 12:54 PM #33
      vtechTHIS: Yes and I'm going over 300hp, that's why I'm asking even if I don't agree with you.Did you see the exhaust manifold once used? you can see where it has suffered from the heat because it makes a "L" so the gaz is slowed down, and the engine gets hotter also. I saw mine in january and now that i'm going to more than 300hp I want one but I can't find it... there's no enough clients for the companies in Europe to produce them

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      06-04-2003 11:50 AM #34
      The 24v motor also has a variable length intake manifold. I don't think I saw that posted yet.

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      06-06-2003 11:44 PM #35
      so did the MKIV 12v, but that'll just confuse more people.

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      06-17-2003 01:45 PM #36
      Quote, originally posted by gizmopop »
      knwon as the VR6 for V-rehienn(sp?) 6...

      dude, i've been looking for the complete real spelling of this word for like 3 days. can you help me out?

    12. 06-17-2003 05:51 PM #37
      V-Reihenmotor [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      09-26-2003 04:09 PM #38
      so, my '01 gti vr6 is only 12v?? please tell me i read something wrong.

    14. 09-26-2003 05:25 PM #39
      Yes, the 24v VR6 is 2002.5+

    15. 09-27-2003 02:32 AM #40
      Quote, originally posted by brent0226 »
      don't forget 24v is also in GLX!

      Yeah!

    16. 09-29-2003 10:00 PM #41
      the VR6 is @ a 15 degree angle and the V6 is @ the 90 right?

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      09-30-2003 05:15 PM #42
      Not sure about the VW V6, but most V6's are 60 degrees (and most V8's are 90 degrees).
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    18. 09-30-2003 05:23 PM #43
      Quote, originally posted by kleineGTI »
      Not sure about the VW V6, but most V6's are 60 degrees (and most V8's are 90 degrees).

      VWs VR6(12V and 24V) 15 degree V ( it has more in common with an inline 6 than a traditional V6
      VWs 2.8 V6 (30V) 90 degree V (same as the Audi B5 A4)

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      10-05-2003 01:40 AM #44
      Yes, indeed. The VR6 vee is a 15-degree angle, whereas "real" v-engines have 60- or 90-degree vees. The VR6 really is an inline motor with a slight offset (the 15 degrees) to save space. Unlike "real" v-engines, but as found on in-line engines, it has the single cylinder head. As someone above noted, the "R" in VR6 is German for "in-line".
      VW does put a "real" V6 engine in Passats and I'm not sure what else. The VR6 is found in Golfs/Jettas/GTI's and Eurovans. I believe also in the quattro Audi TT.



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    20. 10-06-2003 09:00 AM #45

      As far as I'm concerned mine is a 24v V6 on ITB's there is no reference to VR6 on the 4 motion but who cares anyway, VR6, V6 it's all good?

    21. 10-07-2003 02:14 PM #46
      there seems to be a lot of things going on.
      I have a 2001 GTI VR6 GLX. How many valves do I have? I'm just getting into all this, so be gentle.

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      10-07-2003 05:50 PM #47
      Quote, originally posted by kilows »
      there seems to be a lot of things going on.
      I have a 2001 GTI VR6 GLX. How many valves do I have? I'm just getting into all this, so be gentle.

      12 valves.
      ERiC

    23. 12-10-2003 08:45 PM #48
      OK - so I am looking at a GLX that looks just like yours. It was manufactured 20 May 2002, in Mexico. Is this enough to surmise that it is a 24V, or is there something else I need to look at? Because I haven't seen it, it is at a Ford dealership and they know nothing, and CARFAX lists it as a 30V (hey, I'd like one of those)
      One forum said to look for red plug wires, and that would be a sign of a 12V.


      Modified by leathej1 at 5:34 PM 12-11-2003

    24. 12-10-2003 08:47 PM #49
      I just got another tip that if the rear bumper has a cutout for the exhaust, that is a sign of the 24V.


      Modified by leathej1 at 5:34 PM 12-11-2003

    25. 03-15-2004 11:31 PM #50
      Quote, originally posted by kleineGTI »
      Not sure about the VW V6, but most V6's are 60 degrees (and most V8's are 90 degrees).

      Car companies make 60 deg. V6s and 90 deg. V8s because, at those angles, the engines are naturally balanced. However, the narrower V6 angle requires more vertical space under the hood, forcing the vehicle's center of gravity to move up. That is why you'll see more 90 deg. V6s today.
      Jon

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