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      02-14-2017 10:47 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by JerseyVR View Post
      I'm sure it's a very capable and fantastic machine to drive, but mostly the exterior just doesn't do it for me.
      I think it blends away with other supercars of today and tomorrow, where as the original NSX to me was a staple of the 90s. They're already appreciating as a timeless classic.
      Again, this is just my opinion.
      I know it is.

      Have you stood next to one? It's... a different experience. It made me see that it doesn't blend it. Before, I kinda thought it did.

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      02-14-2017 10:52 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by l88m22vette View Post
      If that were always true then TV dinners would have replaced home-cooked years ago. Technology and progress often go together, but they aren't inherently good just because they exist, and they also aren't always positive.
      You should try living like the Amish then and give up modern medicine.

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      02-14-2017 10:57 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by HotrodMinivan View Post
      Yawn. Hyberbole for hyperbole's sake.
      Yup.

      On paper, then, this car looks like a genuinely realistic alternative to Ferrari’s 488 GTB, Lamborghini’s Huracan and whatever car McLaren has just launched. However, it isn’t.

      The first problem is that it’s not that quick off the mark. If you are driving in Quiet mode — which you will be most of the time, because the other settings make the car noisy, uneconomical and bumpy — and you put your foot down, there is a very noticeable moment when you just know the computing system is having a think. “Right. Hang on. What gear should I select? Fourth? Fifth? We’ll have a meeting about that, and in the meantime let’s see if we can work out which wheel needs what amount of power. Front left to start with …”
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      02-14-2017 10:58 AM #29
      That James May review was the most positive one I've seen for the NSX. Now I remember why I never trust men who wear paisley shirts.
      Quote Originally Posted by RS-SIX View Post
      You guys are missing the point with manuals...not only does not one want to drive a manual, many active safety systems do not work with manual transmissions. Soon manual trans cars are going to be the most dangerous cars on the road. If they dont die a natural death, they will be outlawed.

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      02-14-2017 11:29 AM #30
      Not surprised at all. If it did not have the NSX badge it would get much better reviews and we would all think of the car different. It's a cool car but not my cup of tea and it cant hold a stick to the original.

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      02-14-2017 12:24 PM #31
      DAmn

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      02-14-2017 01:15 PM #32
      Wow, this reads like a Fox News article. Not that I expected anything less from this old fart.

      "A wobble in the Japanese economy"? Try, "a worldwide economic crisis".
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      02-14-2017 01:28 PM #33
      Not surprised at all. This car is nothing like the original NSX and to be honest, I have little to no interest in something like this, meh.

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      02-14-2017 01:41 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by MonsterM View Post
      Not surprised at all. This car is nothing like the original NSX and to be honest, I have little to no interest in something like this, meh.
      Meh, some people just aren't into sports cars.

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      02-14-2017 01:48 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by George Bluth View Post
      Meh, some people just aren't into sports cars.
      Yup. Like James May for example. This numb quiet NSX should be perfect for them.
      Quote Originally Posted by RS-SIX View Post
      You guys are missing the point with manuals...not only does not one want to drive a manual, many active safety systems do not work with manual transmissions. Soon manual trans cars are going to be the most dangerous cars on the road. If they dont die a natural death, they will be outlawed.

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      02-14-2017 01:52 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by PsychoVolvo View Post
      Yeah, I lost interest when he goes off on the quality of the sun visors. He's clearly grasping at straws.
      Really? You never use the sun visors when you drive?

      Supercars are just cars. When you drive a supercar long enough for the novelty of driving a supercar to wear off, you start to notice things like the sun being in your eyes.

      It's hilarious that when Clarkson goes off about super random crap like "treacle dripping from a moose's nose in a Scandinavian winter", people get all flustered because he's just blabbering about mixed metaphors. But then when he comes up with a real consumer complaint like talking about poor sun visors, then he's 'grasping at straws'

      Maybe I'm just sensitive about visors because of where and when I like to drive. It really bothers me that the visors in my Boxster are TERRIBLE. Plus, believe it or not, one of my only real complaints with the driving experience of McLaren's and modern Ferraris is that the damn sun visors are too small to be practical!

      Oh well, at least it makes me feel like Ari Vatanen:

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      02-14-2017 01:57 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by George Bluth View Post
      Meh, some people just aren't into sports cars.
      Yeap and the NSX should be a perfect fit for them. Amazing technology with fully automated, computerized and digital experience. Really the opposite of the original sports car NSX. Maybe they will soon include the autonomous feature so you can just sit in the passenger seat and enjoy browsing TCL on a pop up screen while the computer and the lasers do the work for you and set a lap record .

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      02-14-2017 01:59 PM #38
      If I had a dollar for every hyperbole in this thread, I would be wiping my ass with Warren Buffett's nose.

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      02-14-2017 02:03 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by PsychoVolvo View Post
      Yeah, I lost interest when he goes off on the quality of the sun visors. He's clearly grasping at straws.
      While I do not think that he is grasping at straws, as there are plenty of other complaints in there.

      The problem with Clarkson is that there are a whole lot of words here but not a lot of substance. I enjoy hyperbole and anecdotes as it helps make a boring car review a bit interesting. The problem is that Clarkson is too heavy on one and not enough on the other. I never really thought of him as an automotive journalist. To me, he is more of an automotive entertainer/ story teller.

      As for the car, meh. Honda shot for the moon but the way I see this is that the raw materials are there. Tweaking is required.

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      02-14-2017 02:04 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by hushypushy View Post
      Really? You never use the sun visors when you drive?

      Supercars are just cars. When you drive a supercar long enough for the novelty of driving a supercar to wear off, you start to notice things like the sun being in your eyes.

      It's hilarious that when Clarkson goes off about super random crap like "treacle dripping from a moose's nose in a Scandinavian winter", people get all flustered because he's just blabbering about mixed metaphors. But then when he comes up with a real consumer complaint like talking about poor sun visors, then he's 'grasping at straws'

      Maybe I'm just sensitive about visors because of where and when I like to drive. It really bothers me that the visors in my Boxster are TERRIBLE. Plus, believe it or not, one of my only real complaints with the driving experience of McLaren's and modern Ferraris is that the damn sun visors are too small to be practical!
      The original NSX came with a third sunvisor for the area around the mirror.

      Most of the times I remember the old NSX are during sunrise/sunset when I wish I had that visor.


      Quote Originally Posted by RS-SIX View Post
      You guys are missing the point with manuals...not only does not one want to drive a manual, many active safety systems do not work with manual transmissions. Soon manual trans cars are going to be the most dangerous cars on the road. If they dont die a natural death, they will be outlawed.

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      02-14-2017 02:07 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by George Bluth View Post
      If I had a dollar for every hyperbole in this thread, I would be wiping my ass with Warren Buffett's nose.
      Yeah...I laughed a bit when someone called the NSX "ponderous."
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      02-14-2017 02:17 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by dubdaze68 View Post
      No, I completely get it. "Technology" and "Progress" also gave us 140hp Corvettes and 68hp, poor starting, terrible running, vacuum hose and smog pump/thermal reactor/crumbling cat monstrosities in the late 70's. Hell, my parents' '81 Escort would run for about 30 seconds after you shut it off and it sounded like a third grade class shaking maracas going uphill.
      That wasn't technology. That was regulation. That was regulation that bet that by putting in stringent environmental standards, we could have our cake and eat it, too. That automakers would respond to the demands of the regulation with, yes, TECHNOLOGY, and push us all forward.

      You can argue that perhaps it was implemented too abruptly for automakers to handle, but you can't argue that it didn't work. Today our cars are faster and cleaner than ever.

      The only real downside is cost.

      I'm happy with where we ended up.
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      this thread is a mess, I can't tell if it's full of trolls or idiots and I'm not sure it matters

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      02-14-2017 02:26 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by NoXenons View Post
      The original NSX came with a third sunvisor for the area around the mirror.

      Most of the times I remember the old NSX are during sunrise/sunset when I wish I had that visor.
      Man, look at those gigantic practical visors

      I remember those visors from my Honda days. I believe the three visors only came in sunroof cars, while the non-sunroof cars got two. There's also something about map lights...dammit, I haven't been in the Honda scene for years, I forgot all my minutiae

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      02-14-2017 02:36 PM #44
      there was one at my local C&C this weekend... after seeing it in person i wasn't exactly all that impressed, and didn't give it any more attention than i would seeing an R8 out on the road... wasn't all that striking, or "special" .... and it was even the seductive red/burgundy color.

      the owner even took it out on the road and "demonstrated" the launch-mode.... and to say the least, it was less than impressive.... but it could have been the setting he was in, etc,etc.... i was expecting more noise, more theatrics etc.....but it jus kinda sat there, burbled a bit, than took off quietly....
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      02-14-2017 02:42 PM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by smoothsix View Post
      That wasn't technology. That was regulation. That was regulation that bet that by putting in stringent environmental standards, we could have our cake and eat it, too. That automakers would respond to the demands of the regulation with, yes, TECHNOLOGY, and push us all forward.

      You can argue that perhaps it was implemented too abruptly for automakers to handle, but you can't argue that it didn't work. Today our cars are faster and cleaner than ever.

      The only real downside is cost.

      I'm happy with where we ended up.
      Ah, but what I see is the same push 40 years later. These supercars are reactions to almost untenable government mandated numbers around the world. The quest to make a metal box that travel on roads 100% safe, or 100% emissions free. Or some unholy combination thereof. Passenger cars are going the same way, with some governments pushing for complete banning of internal combustion engines in the near future. Like NEAR near. The VW/BMW/name a car manufacturer emissions "scandals" are the result of this.

      My point though, isn't the shiny, happy, present we currently are at. I remember the dark days of hampered performance and poor running cars of all stripes.
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      02-14-2017 02:46 PM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by ohiodub_99.5 View Post
      the owner even took it out on the road and "demonstrated" the launch-mode.... and to say the least, it was less than impressive.... but it could have been the setting he was in, etc,etc.... i was expecting more noise, more theatrics etc.....but it jus kinda sat there, burbled a bit, than took off quietly....
      What exactly were you expecting? Should Acura included one of these strapped to the car when launch control is activated?

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      02-14-2017 02:56 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by TangoRed View Post
      What exactly were you expecting? Should Acura included one of these strapped to the car when launch control is activated?
      My guess?

      WAAARLRLRLRRRRLRLR *BRUP* WWAAARRLRLRLRLRLRLRL *BRUP* WWAAAAAARRRRRLRLRLRLLRLRLRLRRLLRLRLRLRLRLRLLRLRLRL RLRLRLR
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      02-14-2017 02:58 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      My guess?

      WAAARLRLRLRRRRLRLR *BRUP* WWAAARRLRLRLRLRLRLRL *BRUP* WWAAAAAARRRRRLRLRLRLLRLRLRLRRLLRLRLRLRLRLRLLRLRLRL RLRLRLR
      Exactly.

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      02-14-2017 03:23 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      My guess?

      WAAARLRLRLRRRRLRLR *BRUP* WWAAARRLRLRLRLRLRLRL *BRUP* WWAAAAAARRRRRLRLRLRLLRLRLRLRRLLRLRLRLRLRLRLLRLRLRL RLRLRLR

      something like that.... anything but the 16-yr old kid power braking his moms civic trying to launch it in the mall parking lot noise it did make...


      i guess i was expecting more... but shouldn't have been disappointed when it didn't deliver...
      /| OMGHAI |\

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      02-14-2017 03:26 PM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by ohiodub_99.5 View Post
      something like that.... anything but the 16-yr old kid power braking his moms civic trying to launch it in the mall parking lot noise it did make...


      i guess i was expecting more... but shouldn't have been disappointed when it didn't deliver...
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