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      02-16-2017 08:29 PM #1
      Depreciation own goal: Wayne Rooney's BMW i8 (pictured) loses almost a third of its original value after just one year, a new study said

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/car...te-slowly.html



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      Consolation, the R8 does worse.

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      02-16-2017 08:42 PM #2
      The i8 does nothing well. And most luxury cars are going to lose a good chunk anyways.

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      02-16-2017 08:52 PM #3
      What's the average depreciation for the average non limited or non M model BMW? The average for most cars is usually what....20% the first year? I doubt if the average BMW is too much less than the i8.
      I feel like this has all happened before.

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      02-16-2017 09:36 PM #4
      How is that "not looking good?"

      The i8 is successful. Almost every sports car depreciates (as do hybrids in general). BMW has plans to extensively update the i8 over the next few years. It's not going anywhere.
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      02-16-2017 09:58 PM #5
      This car might have the worst performance:price ratio of all time, and once the novelty of the styling wears off it's not that good looking either
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      02-16-2017 10:04 PM #6
      this car was a flop right out of the gate anyways, there was no way it was going to improve with age lol.
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      02-16-2017 10:16 PM #7
      When I saw it, the quality of the body panels did hit me. Poor.

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      02-16-2017 11:37 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by BlakeV View Post
      When I saw it, the quality of the body panels did hit me. Poor.
      They're made of carbon fibre, not plastic..I'm not sure why you think they're poor quality?

      Quote Originally Posted by GoHomePossum View Post
      this car was a flop right out of the gate anyways, there was no way it was going to improve with age lol.
      Lol What? It's been highly successful, as has the entire "i" brand. At the time of its release there was a 10 month waiting list in the UK. Hardly a "flop".

      Quote Originally Posted by thetopdog View Post
      This car might have the worst performance:price ratio of all time, and once the novelty of the styling wears off it's not that good looking either
      Again, what? It's priced similar to a Jaguar F-Type or a 911, gets very similar performance figures and crushes both in efficiency/gas mileage.
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      02-17-2017 12:17 AM #9
      It is nice to see i8 and R8 depreciate like a falling stone.... I hope these depreciate kings are apply in North American as well. I may have a better chance to own an used one in future. Specially BMW i8, it is probably the "cheapest" car with "billionaire door" (in North America)...
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      02-17-2017 12:21 AM #10
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      You guys are missing the point with manuals...not only does not one want to drive a manual, many active safety systems do not work with manual transmissions. Soon manual trans cars are going to be the most dangerous cars on the road. If they dont die a natural death, they will be outlawed.

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      02-17-2017 01:04 AM #11
      In terms of depreciation I appreciate the appeal of an i8 more than a Wayne Rooney.

      I see spoiled kids in these all the time.
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      02-17-2017 01:10 AM #12
      As stated.. high tech gadget, does nothing well = terrible depreciation.

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      02-17-2017 01:12 AM #13
      I've never liked the i8, especially when i saw the price tag. I think it's ugly and those skinny tires and disgusting wheels aren't doing its looks any favors...

      I would rather have almost any other sports car in it's price range. $140k for that? LOL!
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      02-17-2017 02:14 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by IridiumB6 View Post

      Again, what? It's priced similar to a Jaguar F-Type or a 911, gets very similar performance figures and crushes both in efficiency/gas mileage.
      Its performance is more on par with a Camaro SS or a Mustang GT than the versions of the F-Type or 911s that are comparable in price. And nobody (literally not one single person) that spends that much money on that type of car cares about gas mileage
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      02-17-2017 04:46 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Aonarch View Post
      The i8 does nothing well. And most luxury cars are going to lose a good chunk anyways.
      Yeah, the article even points out other cars that lose more in a year, and pretty much any high-end luxury car (7-series, S-class, A8) loses a similar amount of value.
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      02-17-2017 04:57 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by thetopdog View Post
      Its performance is more on par with a Camaro SS or a Mustang GT than the versions of the F-Type or 911s that are comparable in price. And nobody (literally not one single person) that spends that much money on that type of car cares about gas mileage
      Nobody, literally not one single person, in the US seems to get that fuel efficiency isn't only about a smaller gas bill, it's also about smaller CO2 emissions, i.e. saving the environment. This car sells to those who a) make ideological choises and b) want something futuristic.

      This is one of those cars that you shouldn't judge only as one single model. This is a step on the development path towards the future of sportive motoring. At some point you have to productize your R&D work to get real world experience, even if it wasn't quite there yet.

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      02-17-2017 06:22 AM #17
      The guy I know that owns one is 70 something and slightly overweight. Watching him open the door and flop himself backwards into the seat is .

      The rest of his vehicle fleet, other than his wifes 335 convertible, is all corvettes (4 of them ranging from '67 to '15). He bought this thing for bad weather and when his wife wanted to go out to dinner and "make a quiet entrance". Performance and gas mileage had absolutely nothing to do with it. It was solely for looks and conversation bait at the golf club.
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      02-17-2017 08:52 AM #18
      I'm curious if those of you who are negative on this car have ever driven one? I have not, so I don't comment on anything other than its looks (which I personally like, as a slightly futuristic statement car). I am generally of the view that your opinion on a car's usefulness or desirability is less valid until you have spent some time driving it. Otherwise you're just repeating what you have heard, read, or assumed. Not every car you drive has to be the fastest in its class to be enjoyable. If you drive it, you might just get out and say "I like that". As others here have pointed out, there are many factors that a buyer might value that have nothing to do with 0-60 times, skidpad Gs, or rich Corinthian leather.

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      02-17-2017 09:13 AM #19
      I drove the one I discussed above for about 5 minutes. I found it fairly similar to a tesla. Nothing very interesting about it aside from the torque and seamless acceleration. So I think of it like a tesla with a lot more eyeball appeal and annoying entry and exit.
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      02-17-2017 09:32 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by Avus View Post
      It is nice to see i8 and R8 depreciate like a falling stone.... I hope these depreciate kings are apply in North American as well. I may have a better chance to own an used one in future. Specially BMW i8, it is probably the "cheapest" car with "billionaire door" (in North America)...
      I agree, that Bimmer is a real looker. But than again I have the hots for the more conventional Alfa 4C too.
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      02-17-2017 09:46 AM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Car_Guy View Post
      I'm curious if those of you who are negative on this car have ever driven one? I have not, so I don't comment on anything other than its looks (which I personally like, as a slightly futuristic statement car). I am generally of the view that your opinion on a car's usefulness or desirability is less valid until you have spent some time driving it. Otherwise you're just repeating what you have heard, read, or assumed. Not every car you drive has to be the fastest in its class to be enjoyable. If you drive it, you might just get out and say "I like that". As others here have pointed out, there are many factors that a buyer might value that have nothing to do with 0-60 times, skidpad Gs, or rich Corinthian leather.
      I often feel the say way.

      Since nearly everyone seems to base their opinions on what auto "journalist" posted on YouTube or whatever, getting out and driving a car never seems to happen. I don't consider 0-60 in 4 seconds subpar for an AWD hybrid coupe. The rear seats can easily be used for luggage. Access sucks (what car in this category doesn't) but once your are in, it is a very comfortable place to be - and quite roomy. We also need to remember that in Europe, where CO2 emissions matter, BMW sells a good number of them. Some drivers over there actually care about the recyclability of the car, and emission, and fuel economy. It is rated at 20% more fuel efficient than, say, a 911 when NOT charged.

      Has anyone looked at the trade in values on any large Euro sedan? I bet the trade in value vs. sticker is similar, since they take a bath on the depreciation scale as well. If the car is selling for 25% of its sticker, and the dealer wants to make 10%, the numbers aren't that different.

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      02-17-2017 09:47 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by thetopdog View Post
      Its performance is more on par with a Camaro SS or a Mustang GT than the versions of the F-Type or 911s that are comparable in price. And nobody (literally not one single person) that spends that much money on that type of car cares about gas mileage
      Rich people have the luxury of choice and many i8 owners probably own several high end cars.

      Wayne Rooney from the OP owns cars from Aston Martin, Range Rover, Bentley, and Lamborghini all in addition to the i8.
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      There is a guy who lives one block over from me who has one. It's always parked on the street and I never see it plugged in to charge.
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      02-17-2017 10:12 AM #24
      We love our i3. The driving dynamics is what the car delivers. I'm not a tree hugger or a snowflake. So the EV or saving polar bears want my goal. We wanted a fun and effeicent city car and the i3 is it. If the i8 has the same quality of driving dynamics then it would be a great car. Most all high end cars loose value.

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      02-17-2017 10:20 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by thetopdog View Post
      And nobody (literally not one single person) that spends that much money on that type of car cares about gas mileage

      I'll disagree with you on this.

      And, if they don't, they may want to give the perception of caring.

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