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    1. Member vr6swap's Avatar
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      03-12-2017 07:02 PM #1
      The parts I bought included four adjusters, and two bolts. Almost ready to start fitting and tacking up brackets on the rear beam, and I was planning to install the adjusters at the same time.

      I have seen pics of a beam done by Marcel (maybe?) and it only shows adjusters / bolts on the inner pivot, at least that's what I think I'm seeing. Other pics show adjusters and bolts at all four pivot locations.

      Did I get shorted some parts, or are there two schools of thought as to how much adjustment is actually needed and which direction the adjustment needs to go?

      I can post up some pics if that helps.

      Pic of the car, so everybody knows I'm not building some wishmobile in my head

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      03-18-2017 11:58 AM #2
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      03-20-2017 10:12 AM #3
      I believe it's two schools of thought regarding how much adjustment is actually needed/how much is actually achieved by putting adjusters in certain spots versus others... My feeling is it's best to have full adjustment of both camber and toe.

      Here's a thread that I'm looking at for guidance when I finally get around to installing a set on my Quantum Syncro Wagon.
      https://forum.vwsyncro.co.uk/forums/...icfwdauto_1671

      Where did you get your hardware and adjusters from?
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      An approximate Tim Taylor quote; "If you didn't build it yourself, it's not really yours".
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      03-20-2017 11:26 AM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by dougkehl View Post
      I believe it's two schools of thought regarding how much adjustment is actually needed/how much is actually achieved by putting adjusters in certain spots versus others... My feeling is it's best to have full adjustment of both camber and toe.

      Here's a thread that I'm looking at for guidance when I finally get around to installing a set on my Quantum Syncro Wagon.
      https://forum.vwsyncro.co.uk/forums/...icfwdauto_1671

      Where did you get your hardware and adjusters from?
      Adjusters and bolts I have were included with the Syncro parts purchased from another Vortexer (couple years ago). I don't know who made them, possibly Dutchbuild. Also not sure how many hands they went through before me.

      Posted the question on a facebook group, and a couple-three Rallye owners weighed in. Consensus of opinion seems to be that toe is the more important of the adjustments.

      My plan, for now, is to weld the adjusters on the inboard mount position, to adjust toe. If camberz is a problem, I can take it apart and do the outer pivot too.
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      03-31-2017 09:35 AM #5
      I have a kit on my tool box at the shop for my mk1 awd project, ill take some pictures and I can have more made...

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      03-31-2017 12:50 PM #6
      I'd suggest putting adjusters at both pivot points. I don't have them on my synchro and the negative camber is pretty extreme even with a moderate drop. Up and down on the inner for camber and fore and aft on the outer for toe. That's my someday plan anyway.

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      04-06-2017 07:51 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by Dave20v View Post
      I have a kit on my tool box at the shop for my mk1 awd project, ill take some pictures and I can have more made...
      I'd be in 100% for a kit to do both camber and toe adjustments. I'll PM you.
      Quote Originally Posted by tolusina View Post
      An approximate Tim Taylor quote; "If you didn't build it yourself, it's not really yours".
      Function is the form.
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      04-24-2017 11:29 PM #8
      I may have a few of these sets sitting in a box downstairs.. I definitely have the eccentric bolts/washers if you guys need them. It'll take some digging but I have photos of both sets installed as well. I recall setting the car at ride height and performing an alignment. I then put the eccentrics in and repeated the process. 1 degree rear toe comes to mind as the optimal setting. Knowing where you are before installation is the key here.

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      05-19-2017 07:39 PM #9
      Pulled out 8 bolts/nuts that are spares. I have all of the specs to make the plates/washers and well, we kinda own a machine shop now so speak up if you need some.

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