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    1. 03-15-2017 08:36 PM #1
      Hang on, yes, this might be the dumbest question in the world but the time has come for me alltrack to pick up a nail in the tire, and so now begins my quest to find a replacement tire rather than go through the main dealer prices.

      However, all is not well. I try very hard to put the same tire that came with the car on a replacement, which is a Falken Sincera SN250 205/55R17

      Now, forgetting that I'm trying specifically to find a Falken Sincera (and succeeded at a single place, a SINGLE place) - 205/55R17 seems to be a fairly unusual size and a fair few places seem to not even carry such a tire!

      Am I truly left with going to the main dealer or ordering from tires-easy.com ? (The latter will end up costing me MORE than the main dealer)

      I'm somewhat in shock because I've never had a problem finding tires before, much less the manufacturers one, and even less have I ever found a tire that just seems... unusual

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      03-15-2017 09:29 PM #2
      Tire Rack has it listed: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...0AXL&tab=Specs

      Shows in stock but since it's an OEM tire and apparently rare, I'd call them directly to order.
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    3. 03-15-2017 09:46 PM #3
      I've got four of them that I took off my car last month. They've got about 500 miles on them. Where are you?

    4. 03-16-2017 08:12 AM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by Mudbone View Post
      I've got four of them that I took off my car last month. They've got about 500 miles on them. Where are you?
      I'm in Dallas

    5. 03-16-2017 09:37 AM #5
      I'm somewhat in shock because I've never had a problem finding tires before, much less the manufacturers one, and even less have I ever found a tire that just seems... unusual
      The reason you are in shock is because you have set forth a criteria that has made your tire search unnecessarily difficult. As long as you continue down that path, when you need to get the next set of tires, you'll end up having to sell the car because you will not be able to find that specific tire.

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      03-16-2017 11:56 AM #6
      That tire has a fairly low wear rating, and no reviews on Tire Rack's site. If you search you should be able to get better tires that will work just fine.
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      03-17-2017 10:39 AM #7
      VW website is advertising dealers will match Tire Store pricing.
      http://www.vw.com/special-offers/
      Scroll to the bottom...
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    8. 03-17-2017 07:01 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by distantsoil View Post
      I'm in Dallas
      Virginia. A bit far.

    9. 03-18-2017 09:31 AM #9
      Double check all the paperwork you got with the car. You may have bought a road hazard warranty without even realizing it. Many dealers slip stuff like that in without buyers noticing.

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      03-18-2017 10:42 AM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by Jelly Donut View Post
      Double check all the paperwork you got with the car. You may have bought a road hazard warranty without even realizing it. Many dealers slip stuff like that in without buyers noticing.
      I agree with Jelly Donut. You might have this.

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      03-18-2017 12:35 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Jelly Donut View Post
      Double check all the paperwork you got with the car. You may have bought a road hazard warranty without even realizing it. Many dealers slip stuff like that in without buyers noticing.
      Quote Originally Posted by Phil37 View Post
      I agree with Jelly Donut. You might have this.
      I don't think they warranty wearing them out...
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    12. 03-18-2017 01:06 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Jelly Donut View Post
      Double check all the paperwork you got with the car. You may have bought a road hazard warranty without even realizing it. Many dealers slip stuff like that in without buyers noticing.
      Sadly not

      Quote Originally Posted by Dave Weitzenhof View Post
      I don't think they warranty wearing them out...
      In this case it was a nail

      Quote Originally Posted by jjvincent View Post
      The reason you are in shock is because you have set forth a criteria that has made your tire search unnecessarily difficult. As long as you continue down that path, when you need to get the next set of tires, you'll end up having to sell the car because you will not be able to find that specific tire.
      Actually I thought I said I was having a hard time finding any tires for it in stock around here, even the 200 dollar or 300 dollar stuff sems to be "order only"

      Interestingly, of the four VW dealers around here not one of them has ANY 205/55R17 tires in stock, All have to order, apparently 'they don't carry this tire as regular stock'

      Me thinks I'll be ordering one or two to keep in the garage as spares

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      03-18-2017 01:55 PM #13
      Obviously I missed that it was just 1 tire...
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    14. 03-18-2017 05:28 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by jjvincent View Post
      The reason you are in shock is because you have set forth a criteria that has made your tire search unnecessarily difficult. As long as you continue down that path, when you need to get the next set of tires, you'll end up having to sell the car because you will not be able to find that specific tire.
      It's a valid point though that there don't seem to be many tires matching that exact size. It would be helpful to know if there are any slightly different sizes which maintain a similar rolling diameter but still fit the stock 17" rims.

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      03-19-2017 02:26 PM #15
      Tirerack.com .
      Can't say Id go anywhere else.

    16. 03-19-2017 03:15 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by FermiVW View Post
      It's a valid point though that there don't seem to be many tires matching that exact size. It would be helpful to know if there are any slightly different sizes which maintain a similar rolling diameter but still fit the stock 17" rims.
      Tire Rack has 14 different tires in that size (snow, run flat and regular). Tires by web has 6 different snows and 2 different non-snows. Discount Tire has 2. Amazon comes back with 55 hits on 205/55/17. That seems like plenty of choices to me as compared to what I have with my Eurovan. It takes 225/60/16 or 215/65/16 and it has to be a 102 load rating or better. That limits your choices and it's way less than the 205/55/17.

      You could go with a 225/50/17 and you'll have tons of choices.

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      03-19-2017 03:18 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by distantsoil View Post
      Sadly not


      In this case it was a nail


      Actually I thought I said I was having a hard time finding any tires for it in stock around here, even the 200 dollar or 300 dollar stuff sems to be "order only"

      Interestingly, of the four VW dealers around here not one of them has ANY 205/55R17 tires in stock, All have to order, apparently 'they don't carry this tire as regular stock'

      Me thinks I'll be ordering one or two to keep in the garage as spares
      You may be better off just replacing all of them with something more highly rated and more easily available. As said previously, go to Tire Rack and see what's compatible with your rim diameter, width and tire revs/mile (diameter). There's a good chance you can get a set of 4 for not much more than you would pay for 2 of the OE's, and then you wouldn't have to worry about the OE tires which may have been discontinued (accounting for their scarceness).
      Dave

    18. 03-20-2017 10:38 AM #18
      Most of the time OE tires are not the ones to go with anyway. Manufacturers work out a deal on what they can get and it must be the best (when it comes to price). For a run of the mill car, the tires get the job done but in the end, your replacement will most likely be better. I'm that oddball guy that has Nokians on everything because I've had the best luck with them. Only the OE Contis in the Alltrack are the oddballs but I know what will be going on it when they wear out (right now they have only 1K on them because I have snows on it).

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      03-20-2017 11:23 AM #19
      I had Conti's on my 11 Golf. I got 60K good miles out of those tires. Needless to say, I was happy to see that my Alltrack came with Conti's on it. I hope that I have the same experience with these ones as I did the last.

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      03-20-2017 02:48 PM #20
      Interesting thread! I used my Nokian Haka R2 snows on my Alltrack for a week, and then spring arrived--so it's back to the Falken 250s. Not great, but so much better than the Hankooks that came on my Passat! I suspect we'll keep them on for a few years and then worry about what to replace them with then.

    21. 03-20-2017 06:16 PM #21
      If you have a high performance car and it specifies a certain code tire (Porsche started this back in the 80's), it's best to stick with that tire if you want to put someone else through college. I changed thousands of tires on Porsches because they required a NO1 compound. That pretty much meant, it wears out really fast, thus kept me really busy at my dads shop over by the tire changer. It was depressing when people would figure it out and then get a run of the mill tire that lasted 3X as long, which equated in me not making as much money to pay for my tuition. Good thing is that people kept buying Subarus and Mazdas. That kept me really busy doing valve jobs and straightening heads.

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      03-20-2017 08:39 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by Dave Weitzenhof View Post
      You may be better off just replacing all of them with something more highly rated and more easily available. As said previously, go to Tire Rack and see what's compatible with your rim diameter, width and tire revs/mile (diameter). There's a good chance you can get a set of 4 for not much more than you would pay for 2 of the OE's, and then you wouldn't have to worry about the OE tires which may have been discontinued (accounting for their scarceness).
      Replacing all 4 tires because one has a non-repairable puncture is way over the top when TR is asking $129 + shipping for the OEM Sinceras and is showing them "in stock."

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      03-21-2017 08:01 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by RonDawg View Post
      Replacing all 4 tires because one has a non-repairable puncture is way over the top when TR is asking $129 + shipping for the OEM Sinceras and is showing them "in stock."
      You're right - I didn't realize they were that inexpensive at Tire Rack. He was initially saying ~$300 from the dealer, IIRC.
      Dave

    24. 03-21-2017 09:25 AM #24
      I just wanted to clarify a couple of points that might have gotten missed here

      I wanted to replace the tire due to a nail in the tread, near the sidewall. It couldnt be patched.
      Since I was replacing only one, I wanted to try and get the same make and model of tire.

      I would have glady accepted a different tire, however;
      - Of the 3 VW dealers I contacted, not a single one had a 205/55 R17 in stock, regardless of brand
      - Of the five discount tire's I called, all were able to get tires, but would have had to do an overnight order to get them, it's simply not a tire size they regularly carry
      - Of the two NTB's I called, same story

      My shock was more that no-one seemed to carry this size of tire, not neccesarily the fact I couldn't specifically get THAT make and model.

      If a 225/50 R17 will fit on that rim then yes, when it comes time I'll replace all four with that since those are far more readily available
      Last edited by distantsoil; 03-21-2017 at 11:22 AM.

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      03-23-2017 12:11 AM #25
      You're not alone with the inability to find a certain tire size locally. I had the same issue with my 2003 Nissan Altima V-6; even Costco had to custom order tires for that size. Thank goodness for Tire Rack.

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