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      03-20-2017 11:19 PM #1
      Blue car pulls up to stop sign and is signaling to turn left onto the busy cross street. The cross street does not have a stop sign. While blue car is waiting, red car arrives and waits to drive straight. There is finally a clearing in traffic that is big enough for one car to go. Does the blue car have the right of way because it got to the intersection first? Or does the red car have the right away because it is going straight and left turns have to yield to oncoming traffic?


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      03-20-2017 11:35 PM #2
      If I were in said situation I would yield to the car that approached the intersection first.

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      03-20-2017 11:39 PM #3
      In Calgary, the person turning left is LAST always, unless he can go before the other guy is stopped. Left turn ALWAYS yields to straight, even if he's been waiting for 5 mins longer

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      03-20-2017 11:41 PM #4
      I have always believed the blue car to have the ROW. In my driving experience though every time I've been the blue car the red one has tried to jump out first.
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      03-20-2017 11:43 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by Khyron View Post
      In Calgary, the person turning left is LAST always, unless he can go before the other guy is stopped. Left turn ALWAYS yields to straight, even if he's been waiting for 5 mins longer
      I was under the same impression in the US. I am in Washington state. When a traffic light is green and someone is waiting to turn left, they have to yield to anyone going straight regardless of the order they arrived. At all way stops, it's first come first serve, but this is not an all way stop.

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      03-20-2017 11:47 PM #6
      In Maryland,

      You should yield the right-of-way to:
      • the driver who is at or arrives before you at
      the intersection;
      • drivers in the opposing traffic lane, when you
      are making a left turn;
      http://www.mva.maryland.gov/_resources/docs/DL-002.pdf

      These two seem to contradict each other, but I believe the second bullet point supersedes the first. Before the right-of-way rules are spelled out in the driving manuel, it specifically states "You are responsible for controlling your vehicle as necessary to avoid a crash."
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      03-21-2017 12:00 AM #7
      the red car since the blue car would be turning into traffic

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      03-21-2017 12:15 AM #8
      I was under the impression that the first one there has right of way. There's an intersection like this right by my house. When the red car goes before me I rage.

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      03-21-2017 12:22 AM #9
      Red car has the right of way. Left turn almost always has the last right of way.
      When in doubt think of it this way path of least resistance and fastest path have the right of way.


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      03-21-2017 12:24 AM #10
      Blue car has right of way unless there is an accident.
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      03-21-2017 12:26 AM #11
      In California
      21801. (a) The driver of a vehicle intending to turn to the left or
      to complete a U-turn upon a highway, or to turn left into public or
      private property, or an alley, shall yield the right-of-way to all
      vehicles approaching from the opposite direction which are close
      enough to constitute a hazard at any time during the turning
      movement, and shall continue to yield the right-of-way to the
      approaching vehicles until the left turn or U-turn can be made with
      reasonable safety.
      (b) A driver having yielded as prescribed in subdivision (a), and
      having given a signal when and as required by this code, may turn
      left or complete a U-turn, and the drivers of vehicles approaching
      the intersection or the entrance to the property or alley from the
      opposite direction shall yield the right-of-way to the turning
      vehicle.
      As I read this, first to the intersection wins.
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      03-21-2017 12:27 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by MartyMcFly88MPH View Post
      I was under the impression that the first one there has right of way. There's an intersection like this right by my house. When the red car goes before me I rage.
      They do. Also, it helps not to signal to make that point clear to all the red car people.
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      03-21-2017 12:28 AM #13
      Both must stop at the STOP sign, then Car #2 goes, then Car #1.
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      03-21-2017 12:29 AM #14
      It depends, how fast is the blue car?
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      03-21-2017 12:36 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by J-Tim View Post
      Both must stop at the STOP sign, then Car #2 goes, then Car #1.
      Unless car 1 stops first.
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      03-21-2017 12:39 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Ryukein View Post
      It depends, how fast is the blue car?
      This is actually a legitimate question. If blue car strikes the left door or rear fender of red car, insurance is likely to say Blue is at fault even if it had the right of way. They would say that Blue should have had enough time to react and not turn into Red's side. If red hits the passenger door of blue, red would likely be at fault regardless of right of way. I learned this after being in an accident where a driver did not yield while turning left in front of me. Luckily he clipped the left front of my car so it was clear that he was the one who wasn't paying attention.

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      03-21-2017 12:40 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by nm+ View Post
      Unless car 1 stops first.
      I know US is special, but I thought that only applied to intersections that didn't have a STOP sign ?

      Sorry, it's been a VERY long while since I've had my NJ license.
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      03-21-2017 12:41 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by nm+ View Post
      Unless car 1 stops first.
      (which is the case in this scenario)

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      03-21-2017 12:42 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by PsychoVolvo View Post
      This is actually a legitimate question. If blue car strikes the left door or rear fender of red car, insurance is likely to say Blue is at fault even if it had the right of way. They would say that Blue should have had enough time to react and not turn into Red's side. If red hits the passenger door of blue, red would likely be at fault regardless of right of way. I learned this after being in an accident where a driver did not yield while turning left in front of me. Luckily he clipped the left front of my car so it was clear that he was the one who wasn't paying attention.
      I'm glad that I actually sparked a legitimate thought! I think that you're right. What about a head-on collision? I bet blue would be at fault.
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      03-21-2017 12:44 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by Ryukein View Post
      I'm glad that I actually sparked a legitimate thought! I think that you're right. What about a head-on collision? I bet blue would be at fault.
      then smash that mf red button and click vote! haha

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      03-21-2017 12:52 AM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by PsychoVolvo View Post
      then smash that mf red button and click vote! haha
      I voted blue It's always been my understand that the first person to the intersection goes, unless it is dangerous to do so
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      03-21-2017 12:56 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by J-Tim View Post
      I know US is special, but I thought that only applied to intersections that didn't have a STOP sign ?

      Sorry, it's been a VERY long while since I've had my NJ license.
      In California, at least, the vehicle turning left should yield to vehicles that got to the stop sign at the same time (or earlier), but goes over vehicles that got there after assuming they use a turn signal. I like that CA law forfeits right of way to a car turning left without a signal. I would imagine this is pretty standardized through the US, as this is not something you want to vary interstate.
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      03-21-2017 01:01 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by nm+ View Post
      In California, at least, the vehicle turning left should yield to vehicles that got to the stop sign at the same time (or earlier), but goes over vehicles that got there after assuming they use a turn signal. I like that CA law forfeits right of way to a car turning left without a signal. I would imagine this is pretty standardized through the US, as this is not something you want to vary interstate.
      Gotcha.

      Something for me to keep in mind, as the rule is completely different everywhere else in the World.
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      03-21-2017 01:20 AM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by BetterByDesign View Post
      They do. Also, it helps not to signal to make that point clear to all the red car people.
      Turn signal? BMW driver here.

      I also assume my badge give me right of way.

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      03-21-2017 01:38 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by MartyMcFly88MPH View Post
      Turn signal? BMW driver here.

      I also assume my badge give me right of way.

      Well BMW too. But I do try and signal and people look like they see a ghost.

      In this case it is clear the blue car arrives at his SS first.

      Blue car is better off not to signal.

      It is not clear to red car what blue car will do.

      Red car must wait.

      Boom! Blue BMW.

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