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      06-16-2017 08:01 PM #26
      neither...fact...

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      06-16-2017 08:06 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by Merckx View Post
      neither...fact...
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      06-16-2017 08:11 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by Merckx View Post
      neither...fact...
      Please point to an official public statement from a court or judicial authority that the location set, not merely the stations themselves, is part of the punishment.

      Otherwise you're just interpreting it through your own lens.
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      06-16-2017 08:19 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by Merckx View Post
      I don't think we need to have an "intelligent and liberal" contest here....It is a plain fact that electric cars are not on the radar of most indigent...and after being a high school English teacher, I think I've got a pretty good handle on what various people are interested in.

      my op was just to comment that the stations are being placed there to punish VW, not to serve constituents....
      When did low income become indigent?

      in·di·gent
      ˈindəjənt/
      adjective
      adjective: indigent

      1.
      poor; needy.
      synonyms: poor, impecunious, destitute, penniless, impoverished, insolvent, poverty-stricken; More
      needy, in need, hard up, disadvantaged, badly off;
      informal(flat) broke, strapped (for cash), on skid row, down-and-out;
      formalpenurious
      "indigent families"
      antonyms: rich

      noun
      noun: indigent; plural noun: indigents

      1.
      a needy person.
      synonyms: vagrant, homeless person, down-and-out, beggar, pauper, derelict, have-not; informalbum
      "a shelter for the city's indigents"

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      06-16-2017 08:33 PM #30
      You can pick up some drugs or hookers while charging.

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      06-16-2017 08:39 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by NeverEnoughCars View Post
      So what city do you drive to in order to fill up?
      He uses the White Flight Fill Up iPhone app to find the closest "safe space" station.

      But seriously...

      I got off I-40 in east Knoxville one time due to heavy traffic because game just let out (dumb me driving thru right then).. I ended up right in the hood at night.
      (this was before I had a smart phone/nav)
      I pulled in to the first gas station I saw, walked in, and the young woman behind the counter looked me up and down through the security bars and said "you need directions out of the hood, right?"
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      06-16-2017 09:26 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by DUBPL8 View Post
      God forbid if the state tries to put the interests of everyone living there, instead of just the rich
      But the poor don't drive electric cars?

      I know this idea is good for the "feelz" but in reality its just another pointless penalty to VW from the climate cultists. These stations will go unused. Next Commiefornia will have VW giving out free e-Golfs to the poor just to use these things....

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      06-16-2017 10:06 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by whiteboy1 View Post
      Please try to educate yourself so you don't openly show how biased you are. Jesus.


      Used electric cars are rapidly dropping in price and incredibly affordable. We're actively trying to put charging stations in low income neighborhoods so that they can benefit from electric only vehicles. Giving them advantages not normally afforded to them. Which in turn, helps lower their monthly expenses (ie fuel) to help them move up. I don't have the time or patience to even crack into the systematic racism that this plan is trying to undo.
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      06-16-2017 10:25 PM #34
      EVs are quiet, good for sneaking up on mother****ers.


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      06-16-2017 10:35 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by turbinepowered View Post
      Please point to an official public statement from a court or judicial authority that the location set, not merely the stations themselves, is part of the punishment.

      Otherwise you're just interpreting it through your own lens.

      No the article does not explicitly say that (nor should it IMO) but it does mention this initiative is part of VW's $2 billion clean vehicle pledge to the state which in part is to "atone" for diesel gate.

      Plus, this is the kind of overly zealous parental hand slapping California likes to do.

      It'll be interesting if something actually happens and someone sues VWOA and VWOA sues California.
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    11. 06-16-2017 10:56 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by 2000JettaGLXVR6 View Post
      Like it or not, you will need to travel through ghettos to get to your destination. And thus, you will spend 40 minutes alone in your car in a shady place at midnight like I do on occasion because you need to charge.


      Torrance? That's not so bad. I thought they were gonna be in Watts or Compton.

    12. 06-16-2017 11:06 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by NeverEnoughCars View Post
      How much copper wire is in one of these chargers?
      Yep...they are going to be constantly vandalized and destroyed many times not even for the monetary value, but
      just because it's fun to destroy things. We all know the neighborHOODs....

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      06-16-2017 11:28 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by Merckx View Post
      I don't think we need to have an "intelligent and liberal" contest here....It is a plain fact that electric cars are not on the radar of most indigent...and after being a high school English teacher, I think I've got a pretty good handle on what various people are interested in.
      Wat?
      Now this was a superior machine. Ten grand worth of gimmicks and high-priced special effects. The rear windows lit up with a touch like frogs in a dynamite pond. The dashboard was full of esoteric lights and dials and meters that I would never understand.

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      06-17-2017 12:58 AM #39
      Yo Dawg, I heard you need to charge your EV, so I put some watts in Watts.


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      06-17-2017 01:31 AM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by Form Ocean View Post
      Yo Dawg, I heard you need to charge your EV, so I put some watts in Watts.


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      06-17-2017 08:57 AM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by Form Ocean View Post
      Yo Dawg, I heard you need to charge your EV, so I put some watts in Watts.

      I hope it is going to be a high wattage charger so I don't have to wait for my watts while in Watts.

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      06-17-2017 09:56 AM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by spockcat View Post
      I hope it is going to be a high wattage charger so I don't have to wait for my watts while in Watts.
      You can just relax and listen to some music. Like listening to Waits while waiting for watts in Watts.

      Or something.

      Sadly, though, I agree that we may see vandalizing and theft of some of them.
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      06-17-2017 09:57 AM #43
      I seriously doubt California is going to force VW to put charging stations in dangerous spots.
      (you Cali haters sometimes lose your mind)
      Such a charging station could help the immediate community economy- bringing in customers and revenue.
      Being on the leading edge of gentrification could actually pay off for VW as these areas change.
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      06-17-2017 10:19 AM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by spockcat View Post
      When did low income become indigent?

      Don't argue with him because he doesn't understand the difference - after all, he is/was a high school english teacher.

      High school english teachers are all knowing and are ALWAYS right, especially when they start an inane internet discussion to prove their contempt of poor and minority folks (along with hatred of the government).

      Clearly as someone living 3,000 miles away, he has a vested interest in where charging stations are being placed southern California.

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      06-17-2017 11:05 AM #45
      Looks like the posters in comfortable white suburbia & flyover Murica are confused as what low income neighborhoods are like. It's not all Chicago gun violence.

      I live in an area that is probably considered low income because it's primarily Latinos earning $30K or less. But there are also new $700K condos popping up and hipster coffee shops. Public EV chargers might boost gentrification. The Latinos here usually live in large extended households with pooled resources. One person earning $25K might not buy an EV but here 4-6 income earners collectively spending money might.
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      06-17-2017 12:35 PM #46
      I don't even remember high school English class.

      What did students do in English class? Why would there be a need for a class?
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      06-17-2017 12:40 PM #47
      I read the article, but the new EV stations seem to be for places with more air pollution than my area has. I was hoping we'd get one, but I can't find a public map of the proposed stations.

      There are a lot of electric cars here, both EV and PHEV. Our electricity comes from natural gas, wind, nuclear (ending soon) and increasingly solar. We already have plenty of low-income people with EV. I have not yet seen anyone living in an EV, but it is only a matter of time.

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      06-17-2017 02:58 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by DonL View Post
      You can just relax and listen to some music. Like listening to Waits while waiting for watts in Watts.

      Or something.
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      06-17-2017 03:02 PM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by TheFrank View Post
      EVs are quiet, good for sneaking up on mother****ers.


      This thread really took a U-Turn

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