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    1. I hibernate. Just like the Turtles! GoHomePossum's Avatar
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      06-18-2017 08:25 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by Death-Incarnate View Post
      As the owner of one, try that and let me know how it works out for you.

      It may be plastic, but it's not sealed all the way around so water will get into the electronics.
      I've been hosing out my GMC pickup truck cab since new.

      Googling shows the Element's issue is the airbag computer is under the floor, and since the floor has no actual drains, hosing causes water to accumulate at the computer.

      I guess Honda isn't quite as smart as they think they are.
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      06-18-2017 09:17 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by GoHomePossum View Post
      I've been hosing out my GMC pickup truck cab since new.

      Googling shows the Element's issue is the airbag computer is under the floor, and since the floor has no actual drains, hosing causes water to accumulate at the computer.

      I guess Honda isn't quite as smart as they think they are.
      Always thought you were a hoser.

      And seriously- who takes a hose to the interior of any car that's not a Jeep Wrangler?
      You are just asking for problems.
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      06-18-2017 09:59 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Always thought you were a hoser.

      And seriously- who takes a hose to the interior of any car that's not a Jeep Wrangler?
      You are just asking for problems.
      In defense to Element owners who have hosed their interiors, the way it's built it implies you can hose it out. I always thought you could hose them out.

      Any vehicle with a vinyl floor I've always assumed you can hose it out.
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      06-18-2017 12:38 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by GoHomePossum View Post

      I guess Honda isn't quite as smart as they think they are.
      Or they figured out they can sell the vehicle on this assumption without putting in the effort/time/money to make it true, and then sell it to someone who isn't quite as smart as they think they are.
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      06-18-2017 09:12 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by soundmike View Post

      I didn't even think of the resale, i guess that matters much if i went with a lease. If i bought used, the TC goes for around $15k, the Taco is significantly a bit more for the same year/mileage. Interestingly, i've read the opposite in terms of the transmission on the Taco -- the auto being the problematic one.

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      Sorry- I meant in terms of performance.
      The smaller V6 and MPG gearing means it doesn't feel as quick.

      You mention used.. what about an ecoboost awd Flex?
      Lots of room, awd, ecoboost 3.5 is quick... but it is rather large (tho not sure bigger that quad cab taco).

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    6. 06-19-2017 09:47 AM #31
      I feel like I remember reading the Element had a total capacity of something like 700 pounds. I remember thinking about my best friend (250 at the time) his brother (300) and me (200) being over the limit, and then I stopped thinking about that car.

      Did I read/remember wrong? Did they change that capacity? Are most element owners using them as tall cars and not loading them down much?

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      06-19-2017 10:25 AM #32
      I'd probably get a used 2wd/4cyl/Reg Cab (small wheel/5 lug) Tacoma. These actually depreciate, unlike the CC/SB/V6 models, so they're much more affordable, but the 4 cylinder engine is still really reliable. The manual trans is up to you, but I didn't like the 6mt in the Tacoma I owned. I suspect that you won't either, coming from a GTI. Load capacity is the same as the V6 models (I'm fairly sure) so you can load as many beans in there as you can fit. They're also cheap enough that you can keep your GTI for hauling people.

      And since you're keeping your GTI, you can depreciate your truck as a business vehicle, and the >6' bed gives other tax advantages that I can't think of right now.

      EDIT: Check section 179. I believe you can depreciate the entire value of the truck the first year you own it if the bed is longer than 6'.
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      06-19-2017 10:39 AM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Always thought you were a hoser.

      And seriously- who takes a hose to the interior of any car that's not a Jeep Wrangler?
      You are just asking for problems.
      I drilled holes in the floor of my XJ just so I could be as cool as the wrangler guys. They still never waved to me.

    9. 06-25-2017 02:32 AM #34
      Mercedes Metris!!! I'm sure a benz dealer will cut you a very good deal on one since they didn't sell as well as they expected.

      I got one as a rental in Florida last year and was blown away by how nice it drove. I got 28 mpg average and it had plenty of power for its size. It would be a better utility /people hauler then the transit connect.

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