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    1. Member RollingInDubs's Avatar
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      06-19-2017 03:05 PM #1
      For a MUTHAF***ING ZL1.

      Looks like this, but with a sunroof.


      Anyhow, I was on vacation in Myrtle beach about a week and a half ago and had driven my SS down. When I got to town I checked into my hotel and then went for a cruise to find a place to eat. I ended up passing by the Chevrolet dealer where they had the ZL1 all pretty like and upfront. Having not seen a ZL1 in the flesh since my regional dealers weren't allocated any, I decided to check it out. The sales guy came out, I jokingly said "How bad do you want to let this car go today?" He actually entertained it said there was room to move on it. He started it, I fell in love. Next thing you know they shot me really aggressive numbers for my trade (easily 3k higher than Chicagoland stores), I was trading in my SS and driving out with a ZL1.

      Options are 10 speed auto, Performance Data Recorder, black over the hood stripe and navigation.

      Initial impressions.

      It is brutally fast. As it should be. However, it's not a violent rush of power. It's more a Jet airliner on takeoff kind of rush. It just Bwaaa! *snick* Bwaaah *snick* and next thing you know you're in the next county at cruise altitude. It's really addicting and almost alarming how easy it is to be a delinquent in this car. I thought the SS was fast, but this just rises to another level. The A10 transmission is almost imperceptible when changing gears. The rush of power keeps building. It's relentless.

      The noise: My god, it sounds so good. The scream it makes running through the gears is just downright exotic. At the same time, it sounds way more refined than the LT1 of the SS.

      Handling: Bar non night and day versus the SS. My SS did not have the Mag Ride and it was way more uncomfortable than this car with it's more aggressive settings. I highly advise anyone considering a Camaro check the Mag ride option as it really is worth the money. The gripis much higher as well and this car just begs you to try to fight physics with a pair of brass knuckles.

      Interior: It's pretty much on par with the SS I had. The only real difference is the suede (which I could care less about) and the Recaros. The Recaros while snug are still comfortable and do a much better job holding my fat 'murrican" a$$ when diving into the bends. Fit and finish appears to be a step above as well. My SS would rattle the doors when playing music with any type of bass. The same songs come across with nary a rattle in the ZL1. So either the ZL1's get more sound insulation or it was a running production change on all Camaros. Either way, it's a much better sounding setup with the changes they made.

      Exterior: This thing just looks so much more sinister than my previous Camaro. The flared front end, the front splitter, the wing, the hood. I could go on and on but it just looks like it wants to fight the next Mustang that looks at it cross-eyed. I love it.

      Overall, I'm still in shock at how awesome this car is. It almost dare I say...feels exotic. I plan to hold on to this one as long as possible because honestly, I don't know where to go performance wise from here. There is so much performance here that I actually kind of get nervous with it. The car itself doesn't scare me, but just how easy it is to do bad things with it. Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely.

      Anyways, just sharing my thoughts. Happy to answer any questions folks might have.
      Last edited by RollingInDubs; 06-19-2017 at 03:07 PM.
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      I shall continue carrying the torch for old school muscle while you lay down for the new deities like Automaticus (the god of clutchless ahifting), and Suspensionum (the patron saint of neutral handling).

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      06-19-2017 03:08 PM #2
      RIP driving record...
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      06-19-2017 03:11 PM #3
      will the sunroof made that nice looking roof ("bubble roof") disappear?
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      06-19-2017 03:12 PM #4
      awesomesauce

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      06-19-2017 03:14 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by Avus View Post
      will the sunroof made that nice looking roof ("bubble roof") disappear?
      Yup. You do lose the bubble roof.
      Quote Originally Posted by Seabird View Post
      I shall continue carrying the torch for old school muscle while you lay down for the new deities like Automaticus (the god of clutchless ahifting), and Suspensionum (the patron saint of neutral handling).

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      06-19-2017 03:25 PM #6
      You, sir, are my hero today. I have a neighbor who owns one and it looks and sounds great going down the road.

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      06-19-2017 03:28 PM #7


      Shoulda got it in that lime green, though.

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      I plan to hold on to this one as long as possible because honestly, I don't know where to go performance wise from here.
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      06-19-2017 03:29 PM #8
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      RIP driving record...
      Agreed. I couldn't daily one!

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      06-19-2017 03:29 PM #9
      Now THAT is a proper vacation! You came back with more than sunburn and bad golf stories.

      And yes, please do keep it for as long as you can. In 20-30 years, people will look at that car like they do the Z/28 or an L78 Chenille. And you will still have it and can tell your grandkids about how you bought it on vacation.

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      06-19-2017 03:29 PM #10
      When will you be changing your sn to "RollingInMovingViolations" ?

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      06-19-2017 03:33 PM #11
      Not my style, but congrats on the upgrade.

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      06-19-2017 03:36 PM #12
      congrats, I've been impressed by everything I've read and heard about the new ZL1. If I wasn't going the GT350 route, this would be the next one on my list.
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      06-19-2017 03:36 PM #13
      Congrats! Awesome car!!!

      POST PICTURES!

      Did you want an auto, or did you go with the 10-speed due to the price?

      Just curious. I am not a manual-only nazi, I am just interested in knowing what swayed your decision!

    14. 06-19-2017 03:51 PM #14
      You picked this over a Focus?



      Awesome. Love it. Mag-ride is the bomb in the 2SS - Does this one have that or the multimatic setup from the last gen z28? I haven't done my homework.
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      06-19-2017 03:54 PM #15
      Damn. Just... damn. Congrats.

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      06-19-2017 03:54 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by SchnellFowVay View Post
      Congrats! Awesome car!!!

      POST PICTURES!

      Did you want an auto, or did you go with the 10-speed due to the price?

      Just curious. I am not a manual-only nazi, I am just interested in knowing what swayed your decision!
      To be honest, I was open to either with a leaning towards the 10 speed if just for the engineering marvel that it is. It really came down to finding a ZL1 that wasn't spoken for that could be had for a decent deal. I had been passively interested in a ZL1 for about a month but none of my preferred dealers could even get one and the one ZL1 that I did find (Krypton Green M6) could have worked, but the dealer lowballed my trade in on my SS so much that it was insulting.

      So when I happened to be traveling for leisure anyways and stumbled on a car equipped the way it was with a dealer willing to play ball. I jumped. I would have even bought it had it been a manual.

      Now having had the A10 for about two weeks, I would never go back to the manual. This transmission just changes the game for precision. I absolutely love the way it performs.
      Quote Originally Posted by Seabird View Post
      I shall continue carrying the torch for old school muscle while you lay down for the new deities like Automaticus (the god of clutchless ahifting), and Suspensionum (the patron saint of neutral handling).

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      06-19-2017 03:55 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by RollingInDubs View Post
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      To be honest, I was open to either with a leaning towards the 10 speed if just for the engineering marvel that it is. It really came down to finding a ZL1 that wasn't spoken for that could be had for a decent deal. I had been passively interested in a ZL1 for about a month but none of my preferred dealers could even get one and the one ZL1 that I did find (Krypton Green M6) could have worked, but the dealer lowballed my trade in on my SS so much that it was insulting.

      So when I happened to be traveling for leisure anyways and stumbled on a car equipped the way it was with a dealer willing to play ball. I jumped. I would have even bought it had it been a manual.

      Now having had the A10 for about two weeks, I would never go back to the manual. This transmission just changes the game for precision. I absolutely love the way it performs.
      Enjoy it! What a beast!

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      06-19-2017 03:57 PM #18
      So are you going to mod it? I haven't researched it on this platform, but these types of cars usually have extra horsepower readily available with a tune and pulley upgrade!!

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      06-19-2017 03:57 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by RollingInDubs View Post

      Options are ... black over the hood stripe and navigation.

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      06-19-2017 04:00 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by spoonie View Post
      You picked this over a Focus?



      Awesome. Love it. Mag-ride is the bomb in the 2SS - Does this one have that or the multimatic setup from the last gen z28? I haven't done my homework.
      To be fair, I'm not ready for a Focus RS. I think my next car will be an F-Type and then after that...it might be time.

      And yes it did get the suspension passed down from the Z/28. I do believe it was updated to respond even faster. Don't quote me though.
      Quote Originally Posted by Seabird View Post
      I shall continue carrying the torch for old school muscle while you lay down for the new deities like Automaticus (the god of clutchless ahifting), and Suspensionum (the patron saint of neutral handling).

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      06-19-2017 04:02 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by SchnellFowVay View Post
      So are you going to mod it? I haven't researched it on this platform, but these types of cars usually have extra horsepower readily available with a tune and pulley upgrade!!
      Honestly, I'm not planning on it. This car is already more than I can ever dream of exploiting on the street. I might, MIGHT update the exhaust later...but that's a ways down the road.
      Quote Originally Posted by Seabird View Post
      I shall continue carrying the torch for old school muscle while you lay down for the new deities like Automaticus (the god of clutchless ahifting), and Suspensionum (the patron saint of neutral handling).

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      06-19-2017 04:15 PM #22
      Congratulations man!! Best kind of vacation there is


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      06-19-2017 04:18 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by RollingInDubs View Post

      Exterior: This thing just looks so much more sinister than my previous Camaro. The flared front end, the front splitter, the wing, the hood. I could go on and on but it just looks like it wants to fight the next Mustang, and every European sports car that looks at it cross-eyed. I love it.
      FTFY.

      Awesome. I love it.

      Post up when you take it to a track day.

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      06-19-2017 04:24 PM #24
      Congrats .... nice color.
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      06-19-2017 04:53 PM #25
      I've been thinking about the ZL1's lately too.
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