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VW announces 2013 Jetta Hybrid pricing

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#1 ·
Volkswagen said:
The latest member of the Jetta family offers competitive pricing, excellent fuel economy, and the fun-to-drive nature expected of a Volkswagen
• Jetta Hybrid starts at $24,995*, with SE priced from $26,990
• Most fuel-efficient Jetta in the lineup with manufacturer estimated combined fuel economy of 45 mpg**
• World’s first hybrid to use a seven-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission
• Fastest compact hybrid in its class with an estimated 0-60 mph of less than 9.0 seconds
• Drives as a full EV at speeds of up to 44 mph
• Premium features include LED taillights and Daytime Running Lights, plus Bi-Xenon headlights
• Jetta range now extended to five different powertrains, providing a German-engineered compact sedan for everyone​

All prices exclude destination charges of $795 per vehicle.
*Available by order only
**Manufacturer estimate of fuel economy only; EPA results may vary

Of course, you can also spec it out over $30,000... ;)

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#6 ·
3years ago, I'd agree.

But my recent stint with the Skoda Yeti 1.2TSI have only cemented my desire for a similarly motorized car which can rival my current TDIs milage.

On the highway a TDI is perfectly fine, but in town it's just too damn harsh and loud. The hybrid hopefully will improve on the latter scenario, and match the former.
 
#5 ·
Trying to figure out the premium for the hybrid version. The premium over an SE with automatic is about $6k, but doesn't have the lights. The GLI with nav has the lights and comes with a $2k premium over the GLI without nav. So it appears the hybrid adds at least a $4k premium.
 
#12 ·
Let me start by saying I work on Volkswagen's for a living, so I've driven about every single model out there from the air-cooled up until the newest models. I was recently trained on the Jetta Hyrbid and I must say, it is a great car. My biggest criticism of the car was the market segment. I asked, "who would buy this car, when the TDi is available and will likely be cheaper?"
After driving it, it was obvious. This is by far the most quiet vehicle that VW has ever made. There is no starter. The 1.4 TSi delivers great power while being nearly undetectable when it is running. When you are in "E-mode", which is all electric, it is dead silent, you can actually hear the actuators within the DSG doing their magic it is so quiet. The battery goes from drained to recharged in about two minutes, so the car will be giving you electric assist or all electric as much as it can.

We took them on extended road trips (city and highway) and I was able to get about 52 mpg average according to the MFI. I went into the whole experience thinking I would never buy one over a TDi and I left thinking the opposite to be honest. I am not saying at all that the TDi is no good, because it is VERY good, but If you are an around town only type of driver than you are going to get far better fuel economy with the hyrbid.

I liked the interior styling as well. The seats are made of "eco-leather", which is recycled leather basically, but they felt good and looked good. They were two tone as well. The dash was soft touch, which was a massive upgrade from the crap they used before. Navigation is standard also.

Will the cost offset the milage benefits? I am not sure. Will they sell? I am not sure. Is it a good package? Yes it is.
 
#18 ·
I'm a big fan of Hybrids, and I love the TDI's. Both my inlaws and my parents have TDi's, a 2012 and a 2010 respectively. My mom gets 43 and my FIL gets about 48. My old-tech hybrid gets about 44.5. My brother gets 50 out of his 2010 Prius and his wife gets 35 out of her CX-5.

I welcome the multiple approaches, even if it raises the costs of some cars. My FIL drives a lot of highway miles, so the TDI works for him. My mom doesn't, and I think when she goes to replace her sport package TDI, she'll probably pick up a Jetta Hybrid.

Chris
 
#22 ·
Where is the diesel hybrid? Do the two technologies not combine well, or are they waiting on that?

If there is no technical limitation, that seems to be the ultimate combination for fuel economy.
 
#33 ·
I'm waiting for the Golf hybrid. Sounds way better than my TDI. I hope the sport package is still a part of the deal.

I checked out a recent base Fusion vs a base Jetta, and for all the complaints, the Jetta is really much nicer than the Fusion in terms of interior materials. There must be a lot of difference between a base Fusion and the ones that reviewers get.
 
#40 ·
It has pretty much all the features most hybrid shoppers are looking for. It seems right in line with the pricing of the TDI which makes sense. Kinda gives people the option of going diesel or hybrid. Similar returns yet two different ways of providing it. They are just allowing for people who are more accustomed to a hybrid and are weary about diesel to join VW.

Smart business. It will probably do pretty well against the competition. The only competitor in this segment is the Civic Hybrid (Eco cars don't count without a similar powertrain).
 
#42 ·
Smart business. It will probably do pretty well against the competition. The only competitor in this segment is the Civic Hybrid (Eco cars don't count without a similar powertrain).
I would also call the Fusion, Camry, Sonata, Optima, and Altima (is there a hybrid anymore?) competition. The Jetta is of a size and conservative sedan style it may also appeal to buyers of these cars. Pricing is also comparable.

Compared to what I would call the class leading Fusion it is a near mirror image price wise with heated leather and navigation.
 
#73 · (Edited)
according to Fuelly or fueleconomy.gov current TDI's most average around 40-43MPG,
and thats 20%+ over EPA
and this is the part that alot of people like to overlook.
Uh, no they don't. Current TDIs' average reported fuel economy - incorporating all Fuelly TDI drivers regardless of driving habits - is below 40, and 43mpg is pretty far on the right side of the bell curve. Diesels beat EPA estimates when they're driven at constant high load, which the EPA test doesn't really cover. When they're driven in urban and suburban environments, they're right on target.

If you regularly average 45mpg, you're in a small minority among Fuelly drivers. Forgive my skepticism, but I believe 45mpg claims for TDIs only when they involve fast highway cruising. Nothing personal, and I don't really mean to call you out in particular, but TDI drivers tend to overstate their results just a tad around here - so I'll cheerfully cop to some baggage about upper-quartile MPG claims.
 
#75 ·
Uh, no they don't. Current TDIs' average reported fuel economy - incorporating all Fuelly TDI drivers regardless of driving habits - is below 40, and 43mpg is pretty far on the right side of the bell curve. Diesels beat EPA estimates when they're driven at constant high load, which the EPA test doesn't really cover. When they're driven in urban and suburban environments, they're right on target.
If you regularly average 45mpg, you're in a small minority among Fuelly drivers. Forgive my skepticism, but I believe 45mpg claims for TDIs only when they involve fast highway cruising.
2011 GOLF TDI (both DSG and MT) i grabbed 2011 year because it had most cars on FUELLY
39-42 MPG has the highest number of cars


and here are 4 cars diff years/models (2 auto 2 mt side by side) look at user ratings FAR FAR exceeding EPA


and if im in a small minortiy % of TDI drivers or not, here are my last 25 fill ups.
as you can see i dropped below 40 MPG only twice
majority of my driving is between Long Beach to near Santa Monica in I405 traffic, 30 miles each way. about 1 hour every morning and 1 hour every afternoon,
date miles gal MPG price
94 9/27/12 584.1 13.80 42.3 4.339
93 9/21/12 557.0 12.78 43.6 4.339
92 8/27/12 518.4 11.88 43.6 4.359
91 8/24/12 532.4 11.93 44.6 4.399
90 8/21/12 577.8 12.72 45.4 4.299
89 8/11/12 605.2 13.38 45.2 4.200
88 7/29/12 551.1 11.91 46.3 3.979
87 7/22/12 615.7 13.38 46.0 3.999
86 7/19/12 701.3 14.22 49.3 3.939
85 7/8/12 683.2 14.57 46.9 4.299
84 7/6/12 564.8 13.08 43.2 3.999
83 7/1/12 642.3 13.61 47.2 3.999
82 6/30/12 573.7 12.60 45.5 3.779
81 6/23/12 589.7 13.70 43.1 3.899
80 6/16/12 555.1 13.19 42.1 3.899
79 6/6/12 590.7 12.82 46.1 4.139
78 5/20/12 600.8 14.08 42.7 4.179
77 5/7/12 595.2 14.02 42.4 4.279
76 4/27/12 553.1 13.70 40.4 4.279
75 4/14/12 590.7 13.70 43.1 4.299
74 4/1/12 623.9 13.02 47.9 4.539
73 3/30/12 631.3 13.97 45.2 4.339
72 3/8/12 560.5 13.84 40.5 4.399
71 2/28/12 501.8 13.04 38.5 4.499
70 2/13/12 512.8 12.89 39.8 4.159
 
#69 ·
It's kind of neat that VW is willing to offer us a big variety powerplants in the Jetta range, not so different than far more expensive cars from Mercedes for example. I think I'm a bit more of a fan of the diesel powered cars just based on the torque figures and availability of a manual transmission. But if I was seriously in the market for a car with good gas mileage, I'd have to at least give the hybrid a try. The DSG might change my impression of things quite a bit.
 
#72 ·
Overall, I'm all for more fuel efficient options on the market, no matter the powertrain. :thumbup:

It will be interesting, however, to see how VW markets this since they've spent the last decade convincing their buyers that hybrids are lame and diesels are the best.
 
#92 ·
I really don't see how VW is going to move many units of the Jetta Hybrid... If I read correctly, the customer has to order a model rather than driving it right off the lot. Next, at $24,000, what's to prevent someone from buying a Toyota Prius C, Honda CRZ, Toyota Prius 3rd gen. You will get at least 5 mpg better, and over the life of the car that adds up to a significant difference. Not to mention, I would trust a Honda/Toyota battery cell tech and powertrain much more than VW that is just now entering the Hybrid market.

I guess to a certain extent a battery is a battery and vw has the money for R&D. However, that will never beat the volume that Toyota has moved in the last ten years. This obviously gives them the upper-hand in terms of economies of scale, and just overall testing in the real world via its customers.

I tend to think of VW as the driving enthusiasts car, I don't see how this will attract the greenies when there are Toyotas getting better mileage at the same price. Now, if you go with the max spec'ed VW you can afford a Plug-in Toyota that will yield around 80+MPG. It's a tough sell, the only market I think there is to capture are the people that want a hybrid, but don't want to be stuck with the liberal douche-bag label of the stereotyped Prius owner. Just my $.02.
 
#99 ·
I would actually hypothesize that Fuelly numbers skew higher then the norm since people that track their MPG are necessarily more focused on it.
 
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