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Alooooooooha,
Hey folks, I am launching a budgeted 16vt project. I own a 90 Gli 2.0 16v with 140K miles on it. Not really a turbo guru, but I know enough. Help would be appreciated though.I am starting this thread for all of the people who kind of need a base for their 16vt project as I did. Here are MY goals:Less than $1300
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T3 Turbo, 35mm WG, and BOV package from EBAY, $400 by SSautochrome.com Oil Kit,$70, SSautochrome.com Log exh. manifold, $260, boostfactory NGP turbo chip, Ed and Nate at NGP thanks, $150 About $900 so far, all I need is accesories like Boost guage,controler, 1.8t SMIC, and downpipe Thats it for now
Ill update you folks latter     Modified by qksilva at 1:59 PM 9-13-2005
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you might want to add some intercooler piping in there somewhere. should be fun when its done. and i would probably get an intercooler that is bigger than a 1.8t sidemount because they are pretty small. something like a supra sidemount or something? that is if you wanted to go with a sidemount
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| Re: Hawaiian 16vt Project (qksilva) » | « » 6:55 PM 9-13-2005 | |
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NGP said that they would sell me a 1.8t SMIC for about $50, Piping should be no more than $100
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i would suggest at least stacking the gaskets to lower the compression a bit. other than that...good luck.
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| Re: (White16VJettaGLI) » | « » 7:26 PM 9-13-2005 | |
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yeah, 11:1 compression, could prove to be a problem with boost
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| Re: (bassman1987) » | « » 7:31 PM 9-13-2005 | |
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Yeah, had that in thought
Me and my father are doing this project,
There is a EURO cruise,first in about 1 million years on my island, and I dont have time to do it right for now. I am trying to complete it by the 23rd. Might not happen though, but I will be stacking or buying an EIP HG latter.How do you stack HGs anyway? I have an extra one at home.
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| Re: (qksilva) » | « » 7:39 PM 9-13-2005 | |
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Can anyone give me a diagram on where to get my turbo oiling from?
I heard I can either get it from the oil pressure sensor or oil temp sensor, wich one
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| Re: (qksilva) » | « » 7:51 PM 9-13-2005 | |
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| Re: (qksilva) » | « » 7:56 PM 9-13-2005 | |
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It doesn't matter. Either one will work. You should have a T fitting for the oil line.
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| Re: (knappy) » | « » 8:03 PM 9-13-2005 | |
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Wow, just what I needed to see. Good luck w/ the project, hopefully sometime soon I will be embarking on the same journey. Keep us posted.
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| Re: (knappy) » | « » 8:03 PM 9-13-2005 | |
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THanks, kind of thought so
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| Re: (qksilva) » | « » 12:47 AM 9-14-2005 | |
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Sounds like an awesome project.Any idea how you're going to manage fueling? I always thought it'd be awesome to boost a car with a frankenstein parts set-up, but i could never wrap my head around how i'd manage fueling, without shelling out cash for standalone. Any tips? Thanks!
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| Re: (nathankaufman) » | « » 1:19 PM 9-14-2005 | |
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Can anyone say NGP turbo ChipI ordered their 16vt chip from Ed. Its $159, every additional re3burn is $30 Its supposed to increase fuel and decrease timing at higher rpms, so no detonation for me Has anyone used this before
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| Re: (Royale10) » | « » 1:31 PM 9-14-2005 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by Royale10 » | | and i would probably get an intercooler that is bigger than a 1.8t sidemount because they are pretty small. |
The side mount intercooler on the B5's are a little bit bigger than the side mount intecoolers in the A4's. So if he got a side mount from a Passat 1.8T or Audi A4 1.8T he'd be better off. For 5-9 psi and 200 whp, it might not make a huge difference. Besides, a larger front mount could always be installed as budget allows.
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| Re: (CrazyMonkey) » | « » 2:14 PM 9-14-2005 | |
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true its just cheaper to do it right the first time around
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| Re: (Royale10) » | « » 2:23 PM 9-14-2005 | |
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yeah, wanted to do FMIC, but how am I going to do the piping
There arnt to many Scirocco manis in HAwaiiTop mount would be easier
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| Re: (qksilva) » | « » 2:51 PM 9-14-2005 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by qksilva » | Yeah, had that in thought
Me and my father are doing this project,
There is a EURO cruise,first in about 1 million years on my island, and I dont have time to do it right for now. I am trying to complete it by the 23rd. Might not happen though, but I will be stacking or buying an EIP HG latter.How do you stack HGs anyway? I have an extra one at home. |
lmk when u want an eip headgasket.. they are really sce copper headgaskets made for eip.. i used to work there. i can get it for u cheaper only for a fellow islander
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| Re: (pineapplegti) » | « » 2:54 PM 9-14-2005 | |
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Thanks,
Someone told me that the copper HGs are rubish, prone to leak coolant. I wanted a multi layer metal HG, how much?
WHich island you from
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| Re: (qksilva) » | « » 3:05 PM 9-14-2005 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by qksilva » | Thanks,
Someone told me that the copper HGs are rubish, prone to leak coolant. I wanted a multi layer metal HG, how much?
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yes copper gasket will leak coolant if hylomar isnt used properly .. but if u take a mk4 gasket ( steel shim) an use the outer layers for sealing side and a 092 copper gasket for the stacker u got a bitchin setup... copper gaskets aren't rubbish..sce is using silicone to seal the water instead of hylomar and they have a new system of oringing the actual gasket so u don't have to oring your head
but for what your looking for a reg plain jane 092 gasket with a mk4 gasket will work great
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| Re: (pineapplegti) » | « » 4:45 PM 9-14-2005 | |
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So, if i get an mk4 hg and stack it on the copper hg, it wont leak?Can you explain to me what 0 ringing is
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| Re: (qksilva) » | « » 4:49 PM 9-14-2005 | |
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yeah the outter skins of a mk4 gasket is embossed steel.. it will seal like a reg gasket. oringing. where a groove is machined around the bore either on the head or the block and a oring ( piece of stainless wire is inserted to help seal the bore
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| Quote, originally posted by pineapplegti » | | oringing. where a groove is machined around the bore either on the head or the block and a oring ( piece of stainless wire is inserted to help seal the bore |
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| Re: (pineapplegti) » | « » 4:56 PM 9-14-2005 | |
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Wait up,
I know about cars but not about that,
I have an extra 16v hg at home, how can I stack that
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| Re: (qksilva) » | « » 6:33 PM 9-14-2005 | |
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Hey folks,
How do you post pics on here?
My thread might be a little unorginzed but at the end ill do a list again
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| Re: (qksilva) » | « » 12:51 PM 9-15-2005 | |
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| Re: (qksilva) » | « » 1:21 PM 9-15-2005 | |
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| Re: (pineapplegti) » | « » 1:59 PM 9-15-2005 | |
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Hey PeoplesHeres my $400 T3, 35mm WG and BOV [IMG] [/IMG] Boost Gauge, $25 
One of these BCs $60 
What do you think
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| Re: (qksilva) » | « » 4:49 PM 9-15-2005 | |
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T3s coming in on 17th
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| Re: (qksilva) » | « » 4:57 PM 9-15-2005 | |
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DO NOT USE THAT TURBO IN THE PIC. some squirms on here will bash the WG but jwatts is running one on his 400hp 16v with NO problems
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| Re: (1.9..16vTurbo) » | « » 5:10 PM 9-15-2005 | |
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whats rong with the turbo?
I know its not garret, they say it has garret wheetls though
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| Re: (qksilva) » | « » 5:22 PM 9-15-2005 | |
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post the link
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| Re: (1.9..16vTurbo) » | « » 5:30 PM 9-15-2005 | |
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Shop site
http://www.ssautochrome.com/level.itml/icOid/1489dosnt say Ebay Site
Sorry, says garret internals
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...06133
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| Re: (qksilva) » | « » 5:39 PM 9-15-2005 | |
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if you got the T3 Master Power turbo that is a NICE turbo. people will hate on it but from personal experince it's a KIILER turbo very nice. i thought you got the t3/t4 taht are madein tawain. That MP turbo is a good choice and i would say on par withthe garrets. I have the exhaust outlet you need for that turbo
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| Re: (qksilva) » | « » 5:46 PM 9-15-2005 | |
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I think that's a knockoff of the Garrett turbos made in China. I could be wrong though. Let us know how everything works. 
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| Re: (1.9..16vTurbo) » | « » 5:49 PM 9-15-2005 | |
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Is that a V band exh. clamp.
SO all I have to do is weld a pipe to connect to the rest of my exh. system?$40 + how much s&h to Hawaii
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