I had to replace my strut bearings anyhow... and fix a dust boot and bump stop.. so here goes..
BEFORE - H&R Cup Kit - Stock spring hat.
Old VS new
AFTER = WASTE OF TIME = No noise, but the fact is - these did nothing to lower my car.
My Engine
Screw you cardomain.
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Posted by: EDM_v-dub at 8:33 PM 6-27-2006
At least all and all it was like a 30 min job, and I had to adjust my camber anyhow.. 
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Posted by: Luke9583 at 8:34 PM 6-27-2006
Did you replace your strut mounts too?
Did you replace them with 2.0 or VR mounts?
If you changed them with VR mounts, then the vr ones just counteracted the drop of the lowering caps.
If you got new 2.0 ones and the old ones were worn out then maybe it raised it a little.
If neither of the above that is really super lame man.
I'll keep this in mind in the future. 
Post Title: Re: (Luke9583)
Posted by: Dan J Reed at 8:36 PM 6-27-2006
Big time.
Flat.
(They were 2.0 bearings, old style... same type replaced...)
Modified by Dan J Reed at 1:39 AM 6-28-2006
Post Title: Re: (Dan J Reed)
Posted by: thelegendofjohn at 8:39 PM 6-27-2006
I saw about a 15mm drop after installing mine...
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Posted by: LG6R at 9:17 PM 6-27-2006
Dan
Post Title: Re: (MerryBerry)
Posted by: Dan J Reed at 9:40 PM 6-27-2006
I mean, on the upside now that I got a nice 1.0(-) camber per side - car handles LIKE A DREAM! 
- and the strut bearings were falling out... so meh... I was there... thought I'd give it a shot.
So I feel like I had the wheels off for a good reason.. 
But still, 45$ - down the crapper.
As for things comming down, the springs and cup kit are well used, very well used.. and I am sure unless I get some sag 4 years from now out of the mounts, I'll never see that 15mm again. 
I'm glad you could all learn from my mistakes. Moe was right.
Post Title: Re: JOM Lowering caps (Dan J Reed)
Posted by: jron at 9:44 PM 6-27-2006
and dan why is your car so high?
Post Title: Re: JOM Lowering caps (nfx)
Posted by: Dan J Reed at 10:33 PM 6-27-2006
| Quote, originally posted by nfx » |
and dan why is your car so high? |
Because God hates me.
Post Title: Re: JOM Lowering caps (Dan J Reed)
Posted by: GinsterDbS at 10:38 PM 6-27-2006
or not, i drank wayy too much edit..i'm too tired and didn't read that people already asked this question.
-chris.
Modified by eurican at 12:41 AM 6-28-2006
Post Title: Re: JOM Lowering caps (94jetta~~)
Posted by: brobsrabbit at 12:38 AM 6-28-2006
| Quote, originally posted by JRon24 » |
| where'd you get those nifty strut tower caps? |
Early style 2.0 bearing equipped cars had the caps, I've put them on my vr6 bearing equipped car (thanks to the PO after a coilover install) and for some reason they pop off?
Modified by Gibson5469 at 12:45 AM 6-28-2006
Post Title: Re: JOM Lowering caps (Gibson5469)
Posted by: LG6R at 11:44 AM 6-28-2006
| Quote, originally posted by Gibson5469 » |
| Early style 2.0 bearing equipped cars had the caps, I've put them on my vr6 bearing equipped car (thanks to the PO after a coilover install) and for some reason they pop off? |
You're right. They only stay on the 93-95 2.0 bearings and on Mk2's. They won't stay on VR6 bearings. It fits right over them but I don't know why they don't stay on.
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Posted by: hyphytrain203 at 11:58 AM 6-28-2006
iirc, these thing don't work on any aftermarket suspensions
Post Title: Re: (Dan J Reed)
Posted by: yo vanilla at 12:02 PM 6-28-2006
| Quote, originally posted by Dan J Reed » |
| Yea, I duuno, I'm pretty bummed.. I mean, on the upside now that I got a nice 1.0(-) camber per side - car handles LIKE A DREAM! So I feel like I had the wheels off for a good reason.. But still, 45$ - down the crapper. As for things comming down, the springs and cup kit are well used, very well used.. and I am sure unless I get some sag 4 years from now out of the mounts, I'll never see that 15mm again. I'm glad you could all learn from my mistakes. Moe was right. |
well think of it this way: if the strut bearings raised your car, then think of how much higher the car would have been if you kept the stock caps
Post Title: Re: JOM Lowering caps (MerryBerry)
Posted by: Dan J Reed at 12:04 PM 6-28-2006
| Quote, originally posted by MerryBerry » |
| You're right. They only stay on the 93-95 2.0 bearings and on Mk2's. They won't stay on VR6 bearings. It fits right over them but I don't know why they don't stay on. |
They dont work because of the ammount of "drop" the 2.0 vs the VR6 struts travel (meaning, at the top of the strut where its held into the fender... the top "cap" as it were).
If you put them on the VR6 or new style - the cap bottoms out on the strut tower and pops off.
IMHO VW got rid of them with the new design as a cost saving measure.
Post Title: Re: JOM Lowering caps (Dan J Reed)
Posted by: jhayesvw at 12:46 PM 6-28-2006
update this thread in september. i bet its lower.
Post Title: Re: JOM Lowering caps (Dan J Reed)
Posted by: ThatGuy at 12:55 PM 6-28-2006
i was planning on installing mine next week. hopefully yours just needs to settle. want to install mines dan? 
i found these before and after pics in the archives
Modified by soccergk at 1:03 PM 6-28-2006
Post Title: Re: JOM Lowering caps (Dan J Reed)
Posted by: Moe Sizlack at 1:07 PM 6-28-2006
Post Title: Re: JOM Lowering caps (soccergk)
Posted by: exodub at 1:16 PM 6-28-2006
i wonder if it has to do with the suspensions + strut mounts being used...any info on those for those setups?
Post Title: Re: (Dan J Reed)
Posted by: Ghetto-8v at 1:20 PM 6-28-2006
the JOM ones will NOT work with vr6 style struts?? thats odd, because if the top cap is small in diameter, then it is for the 96.5 and later style suspensions with ALL came with VR6 style strut bearings.
im confused.
although Dan has a 95, so he should have large spring diameter parts
Post Title: Re: (Ghetto-8v)
Posted by: 2ohgti at 1:30 PM 6-28-2006
| Quote, originally posted by Ghetto-8v » |
| I told you to cut your springs.... |
get coils and be as low as you want
Post Title: Re: (2ohgti)
Posted by: Dan J Reed at 1:32 PM 6-28-2006
Heather, I'm off for the summer, if you want to give them a shot, come on down. Really.
Post Title: Re: JOM Lowering caps (Dan J Reed)
Posted by: C_Kyle at 1:37 PM 6-28-2006
there are two versions in germany out there. one for the normal chassis (4 hole rims) and for the "plus-achse" (5 hole rims, 115hp and above)
you must have the right one for your springs-diameter
but anyway, this kind of "tuning" is crap. my set destroys my shockabsorber from fk. after that i buy a thread chassis (in german gewindefahrwerk), screw it in the right height i wanna have and voilá : perfect!
Post Title: Re: (2ohgti)
Posted by: Ghetto-8v at 1:55 PM 6-28-2006
| Quote, originally posted by 2ohgti » |
cut springs makes them weaker. not worth it.
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Maybe if you cut a coil that is active.
Post Title: Re: JOM Lowering caps (DerDaniel)
Posted by: Dan J Reed at 1:56 PM 6-28-2006
They just did nothing in the way of a drop for me.
I'm starting to think. I'm pretty sure my passengerside unit was hammered (the spring cap) - Meaning it was "crushed" slightly from the shoddy job the PO did (or hit something?)... that may have been a "home made" set of lowering caps...
I should have measured both left/right sides... hmmm... yup.. looking at them the passengerside one is smashed for sure..
I bet I got the 10mm on the drivers side, but there was no change on the passengerside... Since the old cap was smashed already... hmmm..
I'm not making this up...
Car does handle great with the new camber number tho.
Post Title: Re: JOM Lowering caps (Dan J Reed)
Posted by: bosoxfan455 at 9:17 PM 6-28-2006
| Quote, originally posted by 2ohgti » |
cut springs makes them weaker. not worth it.
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um. wrong.
heating weakens them. cutting a dead coil just makes you lower.
Post Title: Re: (Underpants)
Posted by: ricardo at 2:40 PM 10-23-2006
| Quote, originally posted by Underpants » |
| um. wrong. heating weakens them. cutting a dead coil just makes you lower. |
and less stable, I gues theres a way to do it "correctly"
dont ask me about my cutting springs in my teenage years
Post Title: Re: (ricardo)
Posted by: PrimaVW at 11:41 PM 10-31-2006
| Quote, originally posted by bosoxfan455 » |
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these ones make a **** load of noise and i haven't even driven the car out of the driveway yet.
Post Title: Re: JOM Lowering caps (Dan J Reed)
Posted by: TolandsFirstJetta at 12:50 AM 11-1-2006
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2904965
Still the same ht.
Post Title: Re: (Underpants)
Posted by: XchesapeakebaysidegliX at 5:17 PM 11-3-2006
| Quote, originally posted by Underpants » |
um. wrong. heating weakens them. cutting a dead coil just makes you lower. |
Right. Stick spring in bucket o' icewater. Cut. Enjoy not ruining your spring rates.
Post Title: Re: (XchesapeakebaysidegliX)
Posted by: Benny The Jetta at 6:15 PM 11-3-2006
they definitely lowered my car the 1cm.
i was dumb and didnt take pics of the before and after though.
went down almost 1/2" on both sides. 
Post Title: Re: (jhayesvw)
Posted by: Benny The Jetta at 6:51 PM 11-3-2006
or a half inch?
anywhere other than tmtuning sell them ?
Post Title: Re: (Benny The Jetta)
Posted by: PrimaVW at 3:03 PM 11-4-2006
i just bought the car, and it's got new bilstein sports on her, would i be able to safely put new springs on the car while they haven't been abused yet? i'm looking to drop the car not extremely low but at the same time i don't want to keep her looking like a 4x4 =]
Post Title: Re: JOM Lowering caps (d3v5o)
Posted by: BuDNiKCuF at 12:03 AM 2-8-2007
| Quote, originally posted by soccergk » |
| ut oh i was planning on installing mine next week. hopefully yours just needs to settle. want to install mines dan? i found these before and after pics in the archives
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before and after what? whos car is that?.. wicked drop
Post Title: Re: JOM Lowering caps (FATXCAP)
Posted by: dangerous_dave at 10:19 PM 6-27-2008
| Quote, originally posted by FATXCAP » |
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| Quote, originally posted by ratbox20v » |
| nice, gotta love when people bump archived threads. |
lol seriously this is like 2 years old.
Post Title: Re: JOM Lowering caps (ratbox20v)
Posted by: FATXCAP at 12:02 PM 6-28-2008
| Quote, originally posted by ratbox20v » |
| nice, gotta love when people bump archived threads. |
hhahahahahaha i didnt even notice, someone had linked it in a recent thread oops
Post Title: Re: JOM Lowering caps (Dan J Reed)
Posted by: LRGmrg at 9:19 AM 11-15-2008
oh jordd| Quote, originally posted by LRGmrg » |
| Do u hit subframe with these? |
why would you hit subframe with half inch lowering caps? you could use these on any suspension. most likely a cup kit just to get that rake. so i guess im not understanding your question
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