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I always thought they sold pretty well; and when you weighed in the equipment you got for the price, they were quite a bargain.

If Buick were to offer a big coupe again, do you think it would sell?



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 Re: What ever happened to the Buick Riviera? (candywhitepassat) »« »

Essentially, the platform got killed, and when that happened, Buick decided the volume wasn't there to justify developing another one.



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Honestly who knows, but it would probably sell if it (being buick) was totally revamped in the same fashion as other new gm product.

As I had first hand expierence with a 2003 Buick Century, and thoroughly disliked every aspect of it.



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Those are goofy looking cars but they are goofy looking in a pimp way!



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my grandfather used to have one of these and the thing was SO SO SO SO SO comfortable.





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my grandma had an 89 riviera with a touch screen computer dealy... it was pimp at the time

edit: pic of said computer dealy



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my grandma had an 89 riviera with a touch screen computer dealy... it was pimp at the time

edit: pic of said computer dealy


Modified by Bonfire at 11:17 PM 1-16-2005

Wow. Come to think of it, we had a 90 Park Avenue beater one winter with an automatic climate control system. I thought that was cool, till I saw the touch screen computer deal!



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Buick demographics.... 55 to 85 year olds... yawn





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I worked as a porter at a Buick dealer in '96 during the heyday of the modern Riviera. It was a good car, and with the S/C fun to drive around town, but honestly all it was, was a Park Avenue Coupe, i.e. a boat on wheels. It had a selectable sport/econ mode, but even on the sport mode was uninspiring. I could have thought of a much better way to spend 28k-30k.



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Quote, originally posted by Bonfire »
my grandma had an 89 riviera with a touch screen computer dealy... it was pimp at the time

Oh, yeah! And don't forget the Olds Toronado Troféo of the time, which had a COLOR touch screen!

Sorry about the picture - it was all a quick GIS turned up.

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Hasselhoff digs the computers.




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you my friend, have forgotten about the black car

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you my friend, have forgotten about the black car

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had that in a rental car once! As an 8yr old kid - I thought it ROOOLED!!

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Hasselhoff digs the computers.

lol, I was thinking the same thing.


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(ps - is "GAGES" correctly spelled?? )
Gage, gauge, same thing, but it still looks dumb to write "gages". A gage is first and foremost a type of plum.



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had that in a rental car once! As an 8yr old kid - I thought it ROOOLED!!

I sitll think it rules. In fact, I would go as far as to buy a car just because it had a touch screen computer.



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Riviera sales were strong in the 70's despite the car's stylistic bounce-around from the boat-tail to the land yacht to the LeSabre-lookalike to the FWD Eldorado/Toronado platform. Rivs continued to sell well until the 1986 redesign. This made the car look waaay too much like the much-cheaper (and not that much smaller) N-body Somerset/Skylark. The uncomfortable association caused Riviera sales to slide by 60% and it never really recovered.

By the mid eighties coupe sales were in steep decline. People had just had enough of the big personal/luxury cars that so defined the disco era and the early 80's. They were moving on to SUV's like the Cherokee and Minivans like the Caravan as they got kids.

The Riviera was refreshed for 1989 on the same platform but with styling that resembled an aerodynamicized version of the 1979-1985 Riv. This did net some new sales but not enough to recover from the precipitous drop of 1986.

The Riviera was again renewed for 1994 on the same platform as the Olds Aurora (which replaced the Toronado/Trofeo in Oldsmobile's lineup). It was a great platform but the new coupe was in a declining segment. Like most of the other Personal/Luxury coupes that had managed to survive that long, it didn't live through the 90's, and when it came time to replace it Buick didn't think there was enough demand to develop a whole new car. The spot in the lineup was occupied (eventually) by the Rendezvous and now the Rainier.

Similarly, 2-door sedan versions of most American cars also disappeared during this period. The market for larger 2-door cars just evaporated in the 80's and 90's, even when they came with a price-break from the four-door versions. Most telling is the end of the full-size 2-doors. Chrysler Cancelled RWD two-doors in 1983, Ford and GM cancelled their big coupes after 1987 - but by then they were down to only the Caprice, Crown Vic, and Grand Marquis. The Electra, LeSabre, 88, Town Coupe, Bonneville/Catalina, etc. had already been consigned to history.

The end of the Riviera is down less to being a bad car and more to being a car without a market.

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Can someone put-up some nice photos of a '63-65 Riviera, with some good interior shots also? I think that many younger Vortex members may have never known of, or seen, these stunning Bill Mitchell modern masterpieces of automotive design. They're cleaner than clean, and look just as elegant and modern today as they did 40 years ago.

The Elwood Engel '61-64 Lincoln Continentals stole the thunder from these modern classic Rivieras, IMO. Same goes for the equally sleek and elegant '63 Pontiac Grand Prix. The simplicity of their design is their genius.



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I always liked the last Rivieras...ever since they came out. And, I remember driving in an older one and being mesmerized by the digital gauges and everything. The Riviera was one of those "experiement" cars where GM threw the best of their technology. Its a shame its gone.



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To me, the only major problem with the styling of the last Riviera was its long-ish tail, in comparison to the cabin and the hood. It looked like a "cab-forward" attempt that somebody fouled-up.

The best part was, coincidentally, the tail design, also. The "razor cut" of the fenderline, with its subtle and gracefully Jaguar-esque tapering hips, where the rear end tapers notably on the way to the taillamps, is really kinda sexy and v. individualistic. Look at one next time you're behind it at a stoplight. It's a car with sexy "hips" that look way cool, IMO.

It's the kind of sexy-for-the-people design that Americans have always done best.



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 Re: What ever happened to the Buick Riviera? (candywhitepassat) »« »

a really old guy wearing a hat doing 47 mph in the left lane going around the world to the right drove them all off a cliff



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I'll let you drive MY Buick and I'll let you get back to me on that one

Not this again. Let's not start fighting as there was much of this going on in the other thread about the BIG3. If you don't like american cars please don't post anything ignorant or stupid in order to provoke a fight. I personally do like buicks since they are darn comfortable.



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Can someone put-up some nice photos of a '63-65 Riviera, with some good interior shots also? I think that mamc younger Vortex members may have never known of, or seen, these stunning Bill Mitchell modern masterpieces of automotive design. They're cleaner than clean, and look just as elegant and modern today as they did 40 years ago.





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I was very sorely tempted (still am, actually) to buy a 1967 Riviera that's been sitting on a ramp at a used car lot in my town for as long as I can remember.

I checked it out up close and aside from some cracked bondo from a slap-dash repair job on the hood, it was pretty clean and damn does it ever look mean. 454ci V8, 300hp/500lb-ft of torque. I would love to bag it and roll on some 20" dubs.





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Quote, originally posted by vwlarry »
Can someone put-up some nice photos of a '63-65 Riviera, with some good interior shots also? I think that many younger Vortex members may have never known of, or seen, these stunning Bill Mitchell modern masterpieces of automotive design. They're cleaner than clean, and look just as elegant and modern today as they did 40 years ago.

you're right, I was thinking only of the first pictured car and the cars sold under the name since perhaps the 1980s......



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Can someone put-up some nice photos of a '63-65 Riviera, with some good interior shots also? I think that many younger Vortex members may have never known of, or seen, these stunning Bill Mitchell modern masterpieces of automotive design. They're cleaner than clean, and look just as elegant and modern today as they did 40 years ago.

The Elwood Engel '61-64 Lincoln Continentals stole the thunder from these modern classic Rivieras, IMO. Same goes for the equally sleek and elegant '63 Pontiac Grand Prix. The simplicity of their design is their genius.





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