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TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure (fix rough warmup, rough idle, engine choking) | « » 5:16 PM 5-12-2005 | |
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TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure (fix rough warmup, rough idle, engine choking)Hi All, This is a extension / continuation of a thread posted by Tone-Dogg. http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1678991 The reason why I decided to write this up is because after cleaning the throttle body, a lot of my problems were solved. No more rough startup, rough idle, cleared my Check Engine light CEL... etc.
So here we go: 1) Know WHERE thy Throttle body is It is located on the left bottom of this picture. It is the weird-looking thing that connects the intake manifold and the black plastic air tubing:
 A Closer Look:
2) Disconnect the plastic tube above it. The clamp holding the tube is one-time clamp but you can still remove the tube from it without destroying it.
Tube connected:
Tube disconnected:
3) Now, we remove the plastic clamp that holds the air tube to the TB and disconnect it from the TB. Then, remove the 4 bolts holding the TB to the Intake Manifold
4) Remove the electrical wire conector underneath the TB, to allow remove the whole TB out for cleaning Where the connector is located:
5) Now, Clean the TB with whatever (or not) but make sure you dry it up if you use any liquid.
TB removed from the Engine:
 6) Clean the intake manifold if you'd like. (I didn't) The intake manifold:

7) If desired, you can remove / replace the Air Temperature Sensor mounted on the intake manifold for cleaning (They use 1 bolt to hold it - same as the ones used on the TB but shorter)
The location of the Temperature sensor:
 8) If desired, replace the gasket with a new one.
The old gasket stuck on the TB:
 The new gasket to put on:
 9) Put everything back on and DO NOT OVER-TIGHTEN the bolts. I'm sure we don't want to get a new Intake Manifold because of it.
Please correct me if you see fit. P.S. - How tight should the bolts be on the intake manifold? 13lb/ft? 15? - You can buy the Throttle Body gasket and the Air Temperature Sensor at ECSTuning for a couple of bucks. - Use the right tool everyone, I think I have stripped one of the bolts a little... anyone know where I can buy the bolt set? I'm not very car-literate myself, so please give up your ideas or corrections! No hard feelings!
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Re: TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure (jtc126) » | « » 7:22 PM 5-12-2005 | |
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Mr. Bentley says tighten bolts to 6Nm (52 in-lbs). This is the torque for the 4 bolts that mount the TB to the intake mani, and the torque for the intake air temp sensor.
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Re: TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure (flanders) » | « » 7:26 PM 5-12-2005 | |
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nice write-up what about pulling the tb control sensor off?
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Re: TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure (V84LNCH) » | « » 8:11 PM 5-12-2005 | |
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No pic's of the dirty TB? How many miles on your car before these problems appeared?
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Re: TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure (4thvw) » | « » 8:42 PM 5-12-2005 | |
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Sorry. I didn't have a dirty TB because I cleaned it. I just took these pictures when I got my new gasket to put onI'd say to check it every 30K miles. according to this post. My car has 75K and it came to point where my engine would stop when idle. So definitely check it at 30K. http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1678991
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Re: TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure (jtc126) » | « » 8:43 PM 5-12-2005 | |
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Re: TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure (Buttero J-Lo) » | « » 9:39 PM 5-12-2005 | |
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I'll take mine off and clean it tomorrow night or Saturday, maybe it will help my car
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don't forget to do a TB alignment with VAG-COM if you've got it. I didn't have a VAG when I cleaned my TB but if you're going to remove it to clean it, doing the alignment is HIGHLY recommended.
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Re: (DJKeebler) » | « » 11:51 PM 5-12-2005 | |
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Nice Write up, see I told you, You could pull off the job, not very hard. Ya, crank those bolts down a bit more your don't want any leaks for reasons to throw a cell.Great job man.
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Re: (Tone-Dogg) » | « » 3:05 AM 5-13-2005 | |
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Re: (DJKeebler) » | « » 5:22 AM 5-13-2005 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by DJKeebler » | | don't forget to do a TB alignment with VAG-COM if you've got it. I didn't have a VAG when I cleaned my TB but if you're going to remove it to clean it, doing the alignment is HIGHLY recommended. |
I cleaned my TB and did an adaptation last weekend and the car would die at iddle all of the sudden, the adaptation was sucessfull, so Im not sure what could be going on?? anyone have thoughts on this? Greg
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Re: TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure (jtc126) » | « » 7:16 AM 5-13-2005 | |
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Re: (blueGOLFturbo) » | « » 3:27 PM 5-19-2005 | |
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Is it still doing it? Did you figure out what happened?Did you reconnect the electric cable under the TB too?
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Re: TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure (jtc126) » | « » 2:54 PM 8-30-2005 | |
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I agree, nice writeup and thanks for the pics!
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Re: TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure (pressed) » | « » 3:04 PM 8-30-2005 | |
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i clean mine once to twice a month. It gets dirty fast
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Re: TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure (jtc126) » | « » 3:24 PM 8-30-2005 | |
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Awesome post! Thanks for the tips! BTW, what's good to clean the TB?
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Re: TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure (jetta_grl) » | « » 3:51 PM 8-30-2005 | |
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Re: TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure (O2VW1.8T) » | « » 4:09 PM 8-30-2005 | |
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i should clean mine...ive had it off a few times now and forgot each time. duh!
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Re: TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure (SHUMopper) » | « » 7:13 PM 8-30-2005 | |
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Any of you guys get a studdering or helicopter sound along with misfire codes upon cold start when the secondary air is running?
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Re: TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure » | « » 10:20 AM 8-31-2005 | |
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CAUTION: Last night I took out the IAT sensor in the manifold to clean it. It has a rubber o-ring that sits in a groove on the part to seal the hole from the manifold pressure. After 45k miles of use, my o-ring had expanded enough that it took brain surgery to get the part back in with the o-ring attached. Basically, I had to stick the IAT in the freezer to shrink and strenthen the o-ring, oil the o-ring and the hole in the manifold, and then use a tiny screwdriver to keep the o-ring from wanting to squeeze out when I pushed the IAT into the hole. It was a beotch to do (took about 30 minutes of messing with it) and recommend others try to buy a new o-ring before they do this procedure. If the o-ring is not sold separetely, be ready for a likely pain in the asz. BTW, my IAT was clean and didn't even need to do this.
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Re: TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure (groftja) » | « » 4:22 PM 10-4-2005 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by groftja » | CAUTION: Last night I took out the IAT sensor in the manifold to clean it. It has a rubber o-ring that sits in a groove on the part to seal the hole from the manifold pressure. After 45k miles of use, my o-ring had expanded enough that it took brain surgery to get the part back in with the o-ring attached. Basically, I had to stick the IAT in the freezer to shrink and strenthen the o-ring, oil the o-ring and the hole in the manifold, and then use a tiny screwdriver to keep the o-ring from wanting to squeeze out when I pushed the IAT into the hole. It was a beotch to do (took about 30 minutes of messing with it) and recommend others try to buy a new o-ring before they do this procedure. If the o-ring is not sold separetely, be ready for a likely pain in the asz. BTW, my IAT was clean and didn't even need to do this. |
is it really necessary to clean the IAT sensor? could a dirty IAT sensor cause a feeling like the throttle is closing at steady throttle? can you clean it with brake clean?
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Re: TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure (Wolfsburg1.8) » | « » 4:35 PM 10-4-2005 | |
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My guess is that when it's dirty, it tells the ECU that the intake air is hotter than it actually is (it's insulated by the crud so less voltage to keep it at a given temp which is same that happens when the air actually is hot). Can't say for sure, but maybe the ECU tries to shut the throttle body since it is freaking out about how hot it thinks the intake air temp is.Mine did not need to be cleaned but I am super careful about air filter and motor oil quality and bet that some others who aren't and have older cars, have cruddy IAT sensors. Whatever you use to clean it, make sure it is safe on plastics...that's all I can say. You did see my CAUTION sign above right? Be careful.
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Re: TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure (jtc126) » | « » 4:51 PM 10-4-2005 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by jtc126 » | 9) Put everything back on and DO NOT OVER-TIGHTEN the bolts. I'm sure we don't want to get a new Intake Manifold because of it. |
nice writeup if you do happen to strip out the threads in the aluminum manifold, rest easy, you will not have to replace the whole manifold. you can repair the threads with heli-coils...here's a how to: http://www.modifieda4.com/web/....html
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You know its going to go rapidly downhill when you have to refer to the throttlebody as " the weird-looking thing "
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Re: TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure (jtc126) » | « » 12:56 PM 11-20-2005 | |
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Okay, I'm having the same issue. Last time this started happening, I just had a TB alignment done via Vag-com. My problem seemed to go away for several months.Now it's back again and it's worse than ever. I just finished cleaning out the TB, disconnected the battery for a few mins, reconnected without starting for a few minutes, and gave it a crank. The bouncing tach at idle is still there and no better. I've also noticed if I'm giving just enough gas to maintain my current speed, I get the choking, stuttering (very very slightly), as I do when it's just at idle. If I give it full on gas acceleration, there's no issue (at least that I could feel). One thing I did notice, is that when my AC is off, the problem is much less pronounced, as soon as I hit the AC, the stutter. flutter is noticebly worse. Any other suggestion as to what else I should look at?
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Re: TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure (Az!) » | « » 1:20 PM 11-20-2005 | |
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a boost leak maybe? you can check your fuel trims w/ a vagcom to see if you're running rich.
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Re: TB Throttle Body Cleaning Procedure (screwball) » | « » 2:31 PM 11-20-2005 | |
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When we checked with Vagcom last, I did have a fuel rich alert. How do I go about finding a boost leak?Should I go ahead and replace the Temperature sensor or would this not be causing my current symptoms.?
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Re: (DJKeebler) » | « » 2:10 PM 2-28-2006 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by DJKeebler » | | don't forget to do a TB alignment with VAG-COM if you've got it. I didn't have a VAG when I cleaned my TB but if you're going to remove it to clean it, doing the alignment is HIGHLY recommended. |
Can you give me some information on that? What if I dont have vag-com to alignment?
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Re: (W_Jetta) » | « » 3:12 PM 2-28-2006 | |
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ttt need information on this please
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Re: (W_Jetta) » | « » 5:55 PM 2-28-2006 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by W_Jetta » | bump |
post in your regional,,,and i'm sure somwone local will be able to help you with a TBA
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Re: (Big Bad Wolf) » | « » 7:42 PM 2-28-2006 | |
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I just wanna know why is highly recommended?
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Re: (W_Jetta) » | « » 9:00 PM 3-15-2006 | |
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where is the IAT located on 01 jetta 2.0
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Re: (DJKeebler) » | « » 9:27 PM 3-15-2006 | |
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so what if you dont got a vag?
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Re: (dansgti) » | « » 9:49 PM 3-15-2006 | |
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can i buy a IAT SENOR at the dealer? and for how much?
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