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THIS INFO IS NO LONGER CURRENT
Go to the 1.8t Swap FAQ linked in my signature for complete and up to date info!!!Official Mk1 20v Post This is meant to be a one stop shop for Mk1 20v swap info. If you have anything to add please contact me and I'll get it added to the first post. Project Pages:
Rabbit
--Patrick Schmidt's Swap
--speeding-g60's Swap
--Trevahhhh's Swap
--VariantStg3/Tuners Warehouse Vehicle Info Page
--1.8TRabbit's Swap
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--Funksoulkitty Swap
--PoloV8's Swap
--Talx's Swap (thread 1)/Talx's Swap (thread 2)
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--Rolleboy's Swap Picture Posts:
Engine Bay Shots Info:
1.8t swap into a1 help
1.8t swap which tranny to use
1.8t swap questions
20v 1.8T engine swap experience?
Golf MK1 1.8 T questions
Everybody with or installing a 20v post in here
AMB 1.8T Mounts:
Engine Mounts for Codes ATW/AEB/external waterpump blocks:
-OE Mk1 engine mounts will bolt to these blocks, you do not need custom mounts.
Engine Mount for Codes AWD/AWW/AWP/all internal waterpump blocks:
-You'll need custom mounts for the engine
Trans Mount for O20:
-020 trans bolts right in with OE mounts
Trans Mounts for O2A,O2J:
-You will need custom mounts for these transmissions Who Makes Custom Engine/Trans Mounts??
-WRDUSA.com sells a O2J mount kit
-Vortex user need_a_vr6 can sells O2A and O2J mounts
-Vortex user Pataron can sells O2A mounts
-Dan Bubb <jdbubb@verizon.net> sells O2J mounts
-I(boostin20v) have one set of custom mk1 frame rails modded for mk4 mounts, PM for details Wiring Diagrams:
AEB Diagram Which 20v engine should you use?
Engine code AEB from the 97-99 Audi A4 and VW Passat.
Benifits:
-use of Mk1 motor mounts, no need for custom mounts
-larger intake and exahust ports:
-big intake ports: 54mm x 26mm (small ports: 43mm x 26mm)
-big exhaust ports: 36mm (small ports: 33mm)
-20mm wrist-pins (later engines have 19mm)
Cons:
-AEB engines are hard to find, and the euro versions (AGU/ADR) are difficult to find/import Forged Internals?
AEB are all cast
AUG auto is cast, AUG manual is forged
AWD/AWW/AWP/AWM are all forged Users who've asked their names be listed for swap help/info: 
VariantStg3, andrew.lloyd@tunerswarehouse.com
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slow day at work Stu?? 
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vortex should be my work 
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| Re: (Boostin20v) » | « » 12:11 PM 12-2-2005 | |
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this is better than the official 16V thread by 4 valves! 
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| Re: (vdubspeed) » | « » 12:34 PM 12-2-2005 | |
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Thanks for putting a link to my thread in  I really will try to get the thing fired up before Christmas
Andy 20v Scirocco Storm thread (GT28RS)
20v Scirocco GLS thread (Stock K03)
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| Re: (polov8) » | « » 11:34 PM 12-19-2005 | |
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added Talx's swap
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| Re: (Boostin20v) » | « » 10:51 PM 1-4-2006 | |
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this is great
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| Re: (revival) » | « » 11:56 PM 1-4-2006 | |
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anyone who uses this info for a project, start a thread dedicated to it and I'll add it to the list
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| Re: (Boostin20v) » | « » 4:56 PM 2-4-2006 | |
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seriously, this needs to be sticky!!
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i agree ... should be a sticky!
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| Re: (Todesengel.) » | « » 7:13 PM 3-14-2006 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by Todesengel. » | | seriously, this needs to be sticky!! |
Rabbits don't die....they multiply 
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| Re: (mk3VRsick) » | « » 5:46 PM 3-15-2006 | |
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anybody want to give help on wiring to ce2 ? using AEB harness that is !
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| Re: (revival) » | « » 5:53 PM 3-15-2006 | |
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So the hot setup is an AEB block with AWP internals?
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| Re: (redvdubvert) » | « » 9:19 PM 3-15-2006 | |
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nah, keep the whole AEB. The later blocks have smaller wrist pins (19 vs 20mm)
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| Re: (Boostin20v) » | « » 10:12 AM 3-16-2006 | |
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But can the cast internals keep up with big turbo setups?
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| Re: (redvdubvert) » | « » 11:15 AM 3-16-2006 | |
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the AEB uses an external water pump, an intermediate shaft....its very much like an older 8v or 16v. the newer engines are internal water pumps without the intermediate shaft.
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| Re: The Official Mk1 20V post (Boostin20v) » | « » 4:26 PM 4-11-2006 | |
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bump as....well I dont know seems people cant find this
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| Re: The Official Mk1 20V post (Boostin20v) » | « » 3:35 PM 4-12-2006 | |
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added AEB wiring diagram -- thanks [inser username of person I forgot]
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| Re: The Official Mk1 20V post (Boostin20v) » | « » 3:42 PM 4-12-2006 | |
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LOL it was I
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| Re: The Official Mk1 20V post (revival) » | « » 5:48 PM 4-12-2006 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by revival » | | LOL it was I |
haha sorry bout that, thanks
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| Re: The Official Mk1 20V post (Boostin20v) » | « » 10:36 PM 4-14-2006 | |
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I was checking out funksoulkitty's webpage and now I have a question.If I use an AEB motor from a passat and have to switch to a golf/jetta intake manifold. What year should I use. Thanks. AWP vs. AEB
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| Re: The Official Mk1 20V post (vdubspeed) » | « » 1:25 AM 4-15-2006 | |
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sweet thread, good job
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| Re: The Official Mk1 20V post (vdubspeed) » | « » 9:17 AM 4-15-2006 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by vdubspeed » | | If I use an AEB motor from a passat and have to switch to a golf/jetta intake manifold. What year should I use. |
I made 319whp on a dynodynamic with my OE AWD small port intake manifold on my ADR (euro equiv AEB) head. Car was running a Tec3 with a ok, not great tune. bascially my point is that you can run a small port intake manifold without too much problems (FWIW 319whp on the dynodynamic is somewhere between 360-370whp on a dynojet). Ideally you've got two options.
Option one you'd buy a AGU intake manifold, the AGU is the only transversely mounted large port engine code. Problem is it was a non US only setup. From time to time they are avaliable on ebay.de and even the vortex classifieds.
Option two you buy an aftermarket intake manifold (~$525-~$1000) whcih you can order with TB on either drivers or passenger side and either small or large port.
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| Re: The Official Mk1 20V post (Boostin20v) » | « » 12:38 PM 4-15-2006 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by Boostin20v » |
(FWIW 319whp on the dynodynamic is somewhere between 360-370whp on a dynojet). |
360whp! hopefully someday my golf will reach that
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| Re: The Official Mk1 20V post (Boostin20v) » | « » 3:43 PM 4-15-2006 | |
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wow
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| Re: (general problem) » | « » 10:27 AM 4-16-2006 | |
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Clarified/Expanded Mk1 -> 20v engine and transmission mount info
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| Re: (Boostin20v) » | « » 10:47 AM 4-16-2006 | |
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Your AEB wiring diagram link is down  I really need this info for another 20v swap I'm doing
Andy 20v Scirocco Storm thread (GT28RS)
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| Re: (polov8) » | « » 11:36 AM 4-16-2006 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by polov8 » | | Your AEB wiring diagram link is down I really need this info for another 20v swap I'm doing |
doh, looks like I fuged the permissions on the file. I'll get it working tomorrow.
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| Re: (Boostin20v) » | « » 12:14 PM 4-16-2006 | |
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New question:
If I have use an AEB ECU...will I still be able to check the codes using a OBDII port and VAG-COM?If you can't pull the codes...how will you know what's up with the motor?
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| Re: (vdubspeed) » | « » 12:46 PM 4-16-2006 | |
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if your going to use the AEB ecu then make sure you wiring in the OBDII port. without hte port you wont get the codes.
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| Re: (Boostin20v) » | « » 1:26 PM 4-16-2006 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by Boostin20v » | | if your going to use the AEB ecu then make sure you wiring in the OBDII port. without hte port you wont get the codes. |
perfect. I'm assuming it's only a couple pins anyway to get the codes. I'd love to see that AEB wiring diagram if you get the .pdf back up.
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| Re: (vdubspeed) » | « » 3:11 PM 4-16-2006 | |
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I swear it'll be up tomorrow!
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| Re: (vdubspeed) » | « » 5:24 PM 4-16-2006 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by vdubspeed » | New question:
If I have use an AEB ECU...will I still be able to check the codes using a OBDII port and VAG-COM?If you can't pull the codes...how will you know what's up with the motor? |
Its only 3 wires to wire up the scan port. power ground, and the harness k-wire (grey/white) the bewildered looks you get from people as you plug in your laptop to and ancient ass rabbit. always a good time.
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| Re: (splitmeister) » | « » 6:33 PM 4-16-2006 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by splitmeister » | Its only 3 wires to wire up the scan port. power ground, and the harness k-wire (grey/white) the bewildered looks you get from people as you plug in your laptop to and ancient ass rabbit. always a good time. |
thanks...I was sure it was going to be about 3 wires.
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| Re: (vdubspeed) » | « » 7:24 PM 4-16-2006 | |
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any idea where i can get info on getting a 20v head on my aba block???
I want to run NA.
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