My Profile | Active Users | HELP | SEARCH | Google Search


  
Dan J Reed
Member



Offline

Member Since
7-26-2004
25174 posts

Stinkville NJ
95 Golf Sport, 1987 VW Westy, 98 Jetta GLS - Life is best lived with 2.0s or less...

 Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does...« »

Given the "cutting shifter" posts and all that, I felt I had to take some type of leap.

Take 1 stock shifter lever. And two chunks of metal, same thickness, about 1.5" long each

(No, I don't measure... Did this all by eye... rulers are no fun..)

Chop that chunk about somewhere in the middle.

Weld the two plates to it about 1/2" or 5/8" longer or so... again, no ruler..

Install that chunk o ugly weld into your 020 trans... and..

Yup, its a real short shifter folks. My shift throw went from 5.6" at the top of the shifter, down to 4"...

Does not, and cannot "hit shift linkage" or "harm syncros..".. I have a cut away trans if you don't think so...



BB 62.. bitch!

BBQmotorsports - BUBENGROPEN - LOWERED CARS SAVE GAS! my DIY page -

OnelowcabriO
Member



Online

Member Since
4-30-2002
11574 posts

Weedsport NY
when i get around to it

 Re: Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does... (Dan J Reed) »« »

nice gloves



no matter what you have, there is someone on the vortex who doesn't like it

www.fastdubs.org CNY VW/audi club

I ignorant attention whores

Lower-it.com

Dan J Reed
Member



Offline

Member Since
7-26-2004
25174 posts

Stinkville NJ
95 Golf Sport, 1987 VW Westy, 98 Jetta GLS - Life is best lived with 2.0s or less...

 Re: Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does... (OnelowcabriO) »« »

Thanks, they keep my hands pretty.



BB 62.. bitch!

BBQmotorsports - BUBENGROPEN - LOWERED CARS SAVE GAS! my DIY page -

Franco...
Member

Offline

Member Since
6-18-2004
7183 posts

out of the gay
and in da Valley...CT

 Re: Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does... (Dan J Reed) »« »

i love hillbilly stuff.



autocratica

1 thirty pack at a time

Mr Kai
Member



Offline

Member Since
9-10-2004
264 posts

Austin Texas
1996 VW Jetta GLX

  »« »

so how did you measure the shift throw?



-Kai

3 clutches and 1 tranny down

geoffsta99
Member

Offline

Member Since
12-1-2005
1696 posts

Eastford ct
'01 Audi S4 = Formula SAE =

 Re: Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does... (Dan J Reed) »« »

nice job it looks good



K2

B5 Battalion

Timing belt kit for sale - AWM - http://forums.fourtitude.com/zerothread?id=4247191

Front A4 brakes for sale - http://forums.fourtitude.com/zerothread?id=4247195

Dan J Reed
Member



Offline

Member Since
7-26-2004
25174 posts

Stinkville NJ
95 Golf Sport, 1987 VW Westy, 98 Jetta GLS - Life is best lived with 2.0s or less...

 Re: (Mr Kai) »« »

Quote, originally posted by Mr Kai »
so how did you measure the shift throw?

Well, I DID use a ruler for that.. well a dial caliper.

Measured in the car... at the top of the front of the shifter...



BB 62.. bitch!

BBQmotorsports - BUBENGROPEN - LOWERED CARS SAVE GAS! my DIY page -

semaphore
Member



Offline

Member Since
1-19-2005
3387 posts

Catonsville MD
A van down by the river

  »« »

today i just found out i had a sachs clutch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bosoxfan455
Member



Offline

Member Since
9-7-2005
2485 posts

Windham Ct
99 Jetta Wolfsburg

 Re: Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does... (Dan J Reed) »« »

looks good, i would have done the same if i had a decent welder and the confidence in my welds so i wasnt left stranded somewhere. do you think it should be as square as possible though? i can see problems with the gears not engaging properly because of this maybe not i dont know for sure
Dan J Reed
Member



Offline

Member Since
7-26-2004
25174 posts

Stinkville NJ
95 Golf Sport, 1987 VW Westy, 98 Jetta GLS - Life is best lived with 2.0s or less...

 Re: Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does... (bosoxfan455) »« »

Naa.. dude, there is sooooo much room to play with this design... If the lever is straight, its gonna work. I just held it with vice grips when I welded it... 120V gasless mig deal.. All this adjusts is the "front to back" throw, not side to side...



BB 62.. bitch!

BBQmotorsports - BUBENGROPEN - LOWERED CARS SAVE GAS! my DIY page -

Neb
Member

Offline

Member Since
1-25-2005
5394 posts

relaxville
TT quattro

 Re: (GotCandy) »« »

Quote, originally posted by GotCandy »
today i just found out i had a sachs clutch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





benpurkissdesign BLOG
benpurkissdesign
ChinkyVdub
Member



Offline

Member Since
7-17-2003
2721 posts

NY
Mk3, b8A4

 Re: (Neb) »« »

i could have sold you my short shifter
-DOOMED-
Member



Offline

Member Since
9-6-2004
20059 posts

Can I get an A YO My Clapped out brethren New Jersey
1983 Benz 300d , 74 Beetle

 Re: Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does... (bosoxfan455) »« »

it wont work.



Bübengröpen|Offering nothing of useful value...

brobsrabbit
Member



Offline

Member Since
6-18-2005
7763 posts

Waterloo Iowa
1997 Black GTI VR6 (wOOt)

 Re: Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does... (bosoxfan455) »« »

you really should adjust it afterwards



I thought I found a sweet orange hair in my weed but it turned out to be part of a Dorito.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT

my head is like an unblocked drain,
my head is full of brains...
my arms are like two shipyard cranes,
that may not work again...

bosoxfan455
Member



Offline

Member Since
9-7-2005
2485 posts

Windham Ct
99 Jetta Wolfsburg

 Re: Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does... (Dan J Reed) »« »

Quote, originally posted by Dan J Reed »
Naa.. dude, there is sooooo much room to play with this design... If the lever is straight, its gonna work. I just held it with vice grips when I welded it... 120V gasless mig deal.. All this adjusts is the "front to back" throw, not side to side...

yeah thats true, i guess it doesnt have to be exact, either way it looks good and you saved some cash. mass production and you could be making millions

Teufelhunde
Member

Offline

Member Since
1-12-2006
3727 posts

Ft Lauderdale FL
mk3

 Re: Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does... (-DOOMED-) »« »





R.I.P. My Brother, T.K. July 25, 1982--July 8, 2006
The good always die young.

XvwX--170 c.i.

reynolds9000
Member



Offline

Member Since
10-16-2003
21904 posts

Huntsville AL

 Re: Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does... (Teufelhunde) »« »

Sorry for being the layman, but what is different about it aside from being cut and welded..

What, in the design, reduces the throw.



Todays your day baby, whatchagonnado?
Ninja Boot
Member



Offline

Member Since
11-11-2002
4955 posts

Nashua NH
2004 Audi A4

 Re: (GotCandy) »« »

Quote, originally posted by GotCandy »
today i just found out i had a sachs clutch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DIY stuff is the way to go, nice job



Jon || RIP ElleDub
club.broke.status

Quote, originally posted by Turtle »
You know friends that are girls are just girls you haven't ****ed yet...


Cabrio1.8T
Member



Offline

Member Since
1-6-2003
5218 posts

Mobile Al
'74 Pimp Bay Bus!

 Re: Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does... (reynolds9000) »« »

I believe it is a leverage thing.

A____^__B

2 ^ 1

A________ ^ __B

4 ^ 1
B is the shifter, A is the lever on the tranny.
It takes the first one twice the length to push the other side the same distance. I think



1974 bay window bus
1991 Volvo 780 Coupe
1985 Fuji Del Rey

Quote, originally posted by Scarab_Beetle »
my rule of thumb: don't install a part, until you fully understand what it does, how it works, and what could go wrong because of it...

"I used to love [my Cabrio], but I had to kill her"

-DOOMED-
Member



Offline

Member Since
9-6-2004
20059 posts

Can I get an A YO My Clapped out brethren New Jersey
1983 Benz 300d , 74 Beetle

 Re: Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does... (brobsrabbit) »« »

Quote, originally posted by brobsrabbit »
you really should adjust it afterwards

Dan knows what hes doing man



Bübengröpen|Offering nothing of useful value...

ILL_VW
Member

Offline

Member Since
10-27-2004
1708 posts

e. northport ny
94 vw golf DD, Supercharger Mustang GT

 Re: Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does... (-DOOMED-) »« »

seems like a good idea cuz other short shift decrease the leverage and make it harder to shift while urs actually makes it easier to shift. Youd think some company would have though of that before.



FükenDübin : LI, NY

yeayeayea
Member

Online

Member Since
5-28-2005
8651 posts

Lusby/College Park MD
1989 GTI 16v with carbs, 97 gti vr6 with crabs

  »« »

Shift linkage removal.

first step remove retaining pin for shift weight, move shift weight out of the way of linkage.

second step remove ball joint. I used a thick flat tip screwdriver. i put the blade under the ball joint and twisted. then i pulled up and the piece came right off. make sure you unclip it first before prying.


finally use a 13 mm wrench to loosen the nut holding the lever on. then sumply pull the lever off. mine came off easiest in the upright position. 13mm nut can be seen in picture above.

here are the two linkages in side by side position.



From first glance it is a thick piece of metal, and seems like it will be tough to bend. therefore i will be using a torch to heat it up. it appears that the autotech is simply a cut and modified stock piece.

you will need to make the s bend in the piece right angles. bend the first bend further until it is a 90.

in that picture i went slightly past 90, but it shouldnt make much of a difference.

next bend another 90 until the part where the shift weight went into is parallel with the b all joint.

it should look like this when its done.


make sure the shift weight hole part of the lever is straight, not wavy. now drill your hole where you want it and put back in your bushing andd youre ready to go. i do not have the drill bit big enough to drill the hole so i wont be able to test it today. but as it is now it is stll probally close to a 30-35%% reduction.




Modified by yeayeayea at 6:17 PM 4-21-2009



It Lives

DIY Turbo

need powdercoating in the SOMD area? Contact me

FS: PC candy red aba manifold

Col2y
Member



Offline

Member Since
11-13-2005
131 posts

T.O. On
93 VW Golf 2.0L

 Re: Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does... (Dan J Reed) »« »

good job man ... but those are some ugly ugly welds
yeayeayea
Member

Online

Member Since
5-28-2005
8651 posts

Lusby/College Park MD
1989 GTI 16v with carbs, 97 gti vr6 with crabs

  »« »

the method i shoed is one i did a while ago modeled after the autotech short shift. the piece i modified was originally a stock piece. modifying this piece reduces the up and down throw. doing the piece dan did reduces up and down as well i believe, but my method doesnt require welding for those who cant do it.

Modified by yeayeayea at 9:11 PM 2-27-2006



It Lives

DIY Turbo

need powdercoating in the SOMD area? Contact me

FS: PC candy red aba manifold

yeayeayea
Member

Online

Member Since
5-28-2005
8651 posts

Lusby/College Park MD
1989 GTI 16v with carbs, 97 gti vr6 with crabs

  »« »

I guess one of the mods should add this to the DIY page for the complete DIY short shift thread.



It Lives

DIY Turbo

need powdercoating in the SOMD area? Contact me

FS: PC candy red aba manifold

dirtycountry
Member



Offline

Member Since
8-18-2005
1198 posts

h town MD
94vr6golf04tdiwagon96s10zr2acuralegend

 Re: Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does... (Col2y) »« »

Quote, originally posted by Col2y »
good job man ... but those are some ugly ugly welds

yep x2



{o,o}
|)__)
-"-"-
O RLY?
elmer fud
Member



Offline

Member Since
8-4-2003
2504 posts

posts dont mean anything/ cabot vt
80 rabbit carbed/83 gti solid lifter aba project/91 jetta 16v digi -going VR6/ 02 beetle TDI

  »« »

did these to my MK1 and worked well also, for those of you with other gen cars.



"If you owe the bank $100 that's your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that's the bank's problem." J. Paul Getty

I cant spell - deal with it.

ƒat Rabbits Member#11- workin on being a little less fat tho.

yeayeayea
Member

Online

Member Since
5-28-2005
8651 posts

Lusby/College Park MD
1989 GTI 16v with carbs, 97 gti vr6 with crabs

  »« »

yep, mk1-2-3 shift linkage is very very similar. mk3s have the shift weight, among other minor changes. but these mods should work for all 3 makes.



It Lives

DIY Turbo

need powdercoating in the SOMD area? Contact me

FS: PC candy red aba manifold

Dubz Minus 3
Member



Offline

Member Since
3-30-2004
3552 posts

Elmira NY
'95 Jetta 2.0T, '74 Beetle, '99 A6, '91 Ninja

 Re: Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does... (Franco...) »« »



Modified by Dubz Minus 3 at 4:19 PM 6-25-2006



2.

space
Quote, originally posted by uscfan »
The car is fine, it was too dark to get pix of the owl. Actually I didn't even think of getting pics of the owl why would I want pics of a dead smooshed owl?

Upstaters, check in

yeayeayea
Member

Online

Member Since
5-28-2005
8651 posts

Lusby/College Park MD
1989 GTI 16v with carbs, 97 gti vr6 with crabs

 Re: Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does... (Dubz Minus 3) »« »

Quote, originally posted by Dubz Minus 3 »
i dont understand why this is "hillbilly"? just because he didnt buy it from a company and made it himself and it works? Duct tape and wooden truck beds are hillbilly

maybe because in all of dans pictures he titled them the hillbilly short shifter. calm down dude.



It Lives

DIY Turbo

need powdercoating in the SOMD area? Contact me

FS: PC candy red aba manifold

Dubz Minus 3
Member



Offline

Member Since
3-30-2004
3552 posts

Elmira NY
'95 Jetta 2.0T, '74 Beetle, '99 A6, '91 Ninja

 Re: Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does... (yeayeayea) »« »

lmao i didnt notice that lol my bad



2.

space
Quote, originally posted by uscfan »
The car is fine, it was too dark to get pix of the owl. Actually I didn't even think of getting pics of the owl why would I want pics of a dead smooshed owl?

Upstaters, check in

paulzeee
Member



Online

Member Since
12-24-2005
3182 posts

south maplewood mn
91 GLI

  »« »

Quote, originally posted by reynolds9000 »
Sorry for being the layman, but what is different about it aside from being cut and welded..

What, in the design, reduces the throw.


i wont apologize for this but...you are telling me after razing me about not SEARCHING!!! (which i did btw) for a post about short shift vs. cut shift that you couldnt find the answer to this by SEARCHING!?

...i laugh at you *******s that take your lame 5 seconds to type a moronic post just to remind someone to SEARCH!!...well maybe they have and just want to piss people off, or make people like you waste those oh so 5 seconds of time to post a useless post...idiot.



Turn down the suck, turn up the good
yeayeayea
Member

Online

Member Since
5-28-2005
8651 posts

Lusby/College Park MD
1989 GTI 16v with carbs, 97 gti vr6 with crabs

  »« »

wow.


anyway, the longer that rod is, the less degrees of rotation at the pivot point are needed to make the dame displacement at the end of the rod. this in turn requires less movement of the shift rod to get the same displacement on this modified rod. the drawback is that the resistance in shifting in the transmission is increased with the lengthening of the rod. the longer rod allows the same force to apply a stronger moment on the pivot point, which is transferred to the shifter. but dont worry, its not much and is easily adapted to.



It Lives

DIY Turbo

need powdercoating in the SOMD area? Contact me

FS: PC candy red aba manifold

Dan J Reed
Member



Offline

Member Since
7-26-2004
25174 posts

Stinkville NJ
95 Golf Sport, 1987 VW Westy, 98 Jetta GLS - Life is best lived with 2.0s or less...

 Re: Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does... (-DOOMED-) »« »

Quote, originally posted by -DOOMED- »
it wont work.

Quiet you.



BB 62.. bitch!

BBQmotorsports - BUBENGROPEN - LOWERED CARS SAVE GAS! my DIY page -

gti_r_done
Member



Offline

Member Since
10-7-2004
8104 posts

findlay ohio
99.5 A4 Avant

 Re: Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does... (Dan J Reed) »« »

maybe you could make a diagram showing how this shortens throw



flickr
First  1 2 3 >  Last
» Return to Golf III & Jetta III
Quick Reply

ZeroForum 2.1.2. ©2008 RelyNet, Inc.

For advertising information Click Here