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Part of ambient temp sender unit for A/C system?

Seems to rattle when I shake it..



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 Re: Vhat Does Dis Do? (Dan J Reed) »« »

Its an ambient temp sensor, but not for the MFA. IIRC it adjusts either the air/fuel mixture or the fans, i asked a while back, but i forgot what the guy told me



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 Re: Vhat Does Dis Do? (ThatGuy) »« »

Yea, I don't have an MFA...

And its not part of the FI system... that sensor is in the intake..

Anyone else?



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I always thought it was for the MFA, wonder what it is now
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MFA is front passenger lower grille



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I always thought it was just an underhood temp sensor..



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I pulled it out and tested it with an ohm meter... it just says "OL" (open)...



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It's a time/space distortion sensor. If you reverse the polarity you can actually travel backward in time.
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chase the leads to it?



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It's a time/space distortion sensor. If you reverse the polarity you can actually travel backward in time.

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It's a time/space distortion sensor. If you reverse the polarity you can actually travel backward in time.

Ya know I tried that, but I ended back up in the same place..



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it is the Ambient temp sensor.
the ECU uses it to make corrections.

it is NOT for the MFA.



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 Re: Vhat Does Dis Do? (jhayesvw) »« »

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it is the Ambient temp sensor.
the ECU uses it to make corrections.

it is NOT for the MFA.

Why don't I see it in the Bentley or any aftermarket manuals?



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it definitely looks like a sender of some kind, thats all i know.


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Why don't I see it in the Bentley or any aftermarket manuals?

same reason you cant buy a passenger half shaft with that rubber donut on it



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 Re: Vhat Does Dis Do? (ThatGuy) »« »

Well... I do think its part of the cooling fan ckt...

Manual says "near horn" some two wire switch...

Unless they mean down on the A/C dryer unit..

jhayes - I am 99% sure its *not* an ECU input... that sensor (intake air temp) is on the side of the intake...



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Just marking my spot for when you figure it out. I need all the room I can get.



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jhayes is right



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same reason you cant buy a passenger half shaft with that rubber donut on it

what reason is that again?



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i always thought that had something to do with the alarm, shows how much i know



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what reason is that again?

VW doesnt have it listed in their ETKA so i cant order it



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same reason you cant buy a passenger half shaft with that rubber donut on it

rubber donut...pfft you think it's rubber, rubber coated 5lb hunk of metal...i hate that thing



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 Re: Vhat Does Dis Do? (Ddubb9965) »« »

your talking about the one on the half shaft and not the one that bolts to the subframe? but onto dan's problem.

you could pull the part number off it and see what ETKA says it is, likely it will say "ambient temp sensor" but it might be worth it...



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you could pull the part number off it and see what ETKA says it is, likely it will say "ambient temp sensor" but it might be worth it...

Aint got a copy, I know its a no-no to ask for one (here and on other sites...)



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Aint got a copy, I know its a no-no to ask for one (here and on other sites...)

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Good Afternoon, Dan,

The component in the picture is F38, ambient temperature switch. Reference wiring diagram 33/3, current track 40.

I suppose you'll want to know what it does and why....?

If you study the wiring diagram, you'll see that F38 is in series with several components that can switch off the A/C compressor. OK, that explains what it does; now why does it do it?

When the temperature under the hood gets down to whatever value is stamped on the body, F38 opens and keeps the A/C compressor off. This is because the compressor manufacturer (Sanyo?) feels that cold compressor oil does not provide adequate lubrication. After a while, the compressor picks up some engine heat, and so does F38, and the compressor can come back on.

You just might ask, "what is the point of running the A/C on a cold day?" Don't forget that passing air over the A/C evaporator dehumidifies it as well. Hot, dry air makes the defroster work GREAT! And when the cabin is full of wet boots etc., it makes the interior much more comfortable.

I just ran outside and checked F38 on my wife's '98 Jetta TDI and the temperature is not marked on it. Running the part number (1H0 959 625) through the parts system yields a switch-on/switch-off temperature range of 10-1.7°C (50-35°F).

In summary: F38 keeps the A/C compressor off when cold to protect it.

So there you have it; no additional charge for the lesson.

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 Re: Vhat Does Dis Do? (Dan J Reed) »« »

Must be a slow day over at bentley



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i always thought dan was the one with all the answers



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i always thought dan was the one with all the answers

No, sometimes there are things that stump me...

I was pretty sure it was that A/C sensor.

Just had no way to prove it...

I can rest at night now... knowing... what the hell that little do-dad is, and I know that if the A/C ever takes a dump to jump it.



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 Re: Vhat Does Dis Do? (Dan J Reed) »« »

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Good Afternoon, Dan,

The component in the picture is F38, ambient temperature switch. Reference wiring diagram 33/3, current track 40.

I suppose you'll want to know what it does and why....?

If you study the wiring diagram, you'll see that F38 is in series with several components that can switch off the A/C compressor. OK, that explains what it does; now why does it do it?

When the temperature under the hood gets down to whatever value is stamped on the body, F38 opens and keeps the A/C compressor off. This is because the compressor manufacturer (Sanyo?) feels that cold compressor oil does not provide adequate lubrication. After a while, the compressor picks up some engine heat, and so does F38, and the compressor can come back on.

You just might ask, "what is the point of running the A/C on a cold day?" Don't forget that passing air over the A/C evaporator dehumidifies it as well. Hot, dry air makes the defroster work GREAT! And when the cabin is full of wet boots etc., it makes the interior much more comfortable.

I just ran outside and checked F38 on my wife's '98 Jetta TDI and the temperature is not marked on it. Running the part number (1H0 959 625) through the parts system yields a switch-on/switch-off temperature range of 10-1.7°C (50-35°F).

In summary: F38 keeps the A/C compressor off when cold to protect it.

So there you have it; no additional charge for the lesson.

Arthur LeBrun
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Thank you and Arthur LeBrun for the great info!

Is it possible to buy a different sensor with different ranges? Kind sucks if it's to cold out and you have all that moisture from snow in your car, that you can't get some nice dry air in the cabin until the compressor gets up to its minimum range temp...


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Good Afternoon, Dan,

The component in the picture is F38, ambient temperature switch. Reference wiring diagram 33/3, current track 40.

I suppose you'll want to know what it does and why....?

If you study the wiring diagram, you'll see that F38 is in series with several components that can switch off the A/C compressor. OK, that explains what it does; now why does it do it?

When the temperature under the hood gets down to whatever value is stamped on the body, F38 opens and keeps the A/C compressor off. This is because the compressor manufacturer (Sanyo?) feels that cold compressor oil does not provide adequate lubrication. After a while, the compressor picks up some engine heat, and so does F38, and the compressor can come back on.

You just might ask, "what is the point of running the A/C on a cold day?" Don't forget that passing air over the A/C evaporator dehumidifies it as well. Hot, dry air makes the defroster work GREAT! And when the cabin is full of wet boots etc., it makes the interior much more comfortable.

I just ran outside and checked F38 on my wife's '98 Jetta TDI and the temperature is not marked on it. Running the part number (1H0 959 625) through the parts system yields a switch-on/switch-off temperature range of 10-1.7°C (50-35°F).

In summary: F38 keeps the A/C compressor off when cold to protect it.

So there you have it; no additional charge for the lesson.

Arthur LeBrun
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