I thought about this while watching this

http://ststurbo.com/c6_corvette_

today on TV.

STS claim that there are cooling benefits to remotely locating the turbo.

http://ststurbo.com/benefits

Does any of this sound applicable to R32 and other VR6 cars?

Modified by alomI wolleY iTG at 10:55 PM 9-17-2006

WTB a used TMC box for OEM Navi, please let me know where I can get one.

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I watched the episode this weekend....quickly went on their website to see if they made one for VW...by the way, they said "no" turbo lag on the vette they used.

Also, more piping going to the intake from the turbo means more tubing to pressurize. That translates too more lag plus more work for the turbo.

I saw this show also. Please don't tear me apart, this is what the show said:

"From turbo to intake you lose about 1 PSI with the extra tubing. But the lower temp would cause about a 54HP gain, so it was a good trade off"

I can't remember how much of a cooling drop the extra pipe helped with.

I also don't like where the Air Filter is located. I would worry about it being that low in the rear.

Modified by deepcover at 3:13 PM 9-18-2006

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You all are a bunch of elitist pricks, makes me want to sell my car knowing that people like you drive them

I think its freakin sick that 2 of the 4 exhaust tips are actually wastegate dump pipes.....imagine following that bad boy kiddie whistles my ass

The air filter appeared to be way up behind the tailights so it might be OK

inefficient or not, iirc the car they slapped it on went up like 187whp regardless at merely 7psi....the saddest part, Twin turbo kit on your vette is only 8,800.00. The 6.0 GTO kit is 4,800.00 Damn domestics get all the good prices to get more powa

Modified by BadAssLilR32 at 12:31 PM 9-19-2006

Check some of the other ones. this is from the LS1 camero.

Modified by deepcover at 12:52 PM 9-19-2006

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You all are a bunch of elitist pricks, makes me want to sell my car knowing that people like you drive them

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couldnt you run the intake up into the rear bumper?

Jeffrey,

Thank you for your interest in STS. Unfortunately we do not offer a bolt on kit for your 2004 VW R32 vehicle.

However, we do offer a universal kit which has been a solution many of our customers in this same situation have chosen.

The STS universal kit starts at $3125 and comes with all of the main components as our "bolt-on" kits but without any of the piping or silicone connectors (All universal kits come as tuner kits).

If you are interested in this option let us know where you are located and one of our technical sales representatives will contact you to answer any questions.

Thanks,

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Quote, originally posted by GT42R32deepblue »

cause i'm trying to beat supras.. not lose to them.. who cares.. i did it cause i wanted to

I watched that aswell... wondered the same thing.
I just thought they put them back there cause of lack of room.

Anyone else notice the bald tires from a fun day of testing???

never the less this is a clean setup


Modified by Taylor@SETuning.com at 5:10 PM 9-19-2006

It wouldnt, air isnt compressed in the turbo itself, the air is compressed in the entire system overall. Also, the long haul would be great for cooling as there is so much material with direct flow over it. Im surprised they dont offer a non IC kit.

The downside to in theory would be meek throttle response and an overall laggy car, but thats using rational based on the flow of a small displacement motor. I can only imagine a 6.0 liter would have little trouble overcoming these obstackes.

A turbine is driven not merely by the FLOW of air, but by the EXPANSION of exhaust gases as they leave the exhaust ports and collect in the manifold. So, placing the turbo THAT far back is really (really) going to affect efficiency, spool-up time, max power, and the "cooling effect" is going to be no comparison to a real intercooler mounted in a good location. The same benefit they claim in "cooling" is a total drawback because the exhaust gasses are dumping their extreme heat which is what drives the turbo, and a 1200 degree stream of gas is going give up a LOT more heat than the charge on the way back to the front. The amount of piping from front to rear is actually not much - If any - More than your average turbo system snaking around the engine bay, so that's not really a factor or problem here. It's usually 8-10 feet of piping. Back there, the turbo is close to the FUEL TANK, near the ground and easily damaged, your intake air come from the ground with the car stirring up all sorts of dust, etc. Basically, there is no point to this idea. I can't believe none of the turbo guys here stepped-in sooner!!!

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