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Do you guys honestly think that this comes out as well as people say it does? I want to do it to my car because it needs to be painted but i don't want to do it if it looks like something that went to hell and back... any suggestions (I'm 15 and I have a girlfriend therefore, I am broke.)



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dont waste your money.. it will crack and peel
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it will crack and peel

is this true ?



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yes it will ... its spraypaint!
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 Re: about the 50 dollar paint job (atrujillo1991) »« »

it's not spray paint it's in a can and applied with a roller haha and from what I've read I'm becoming convinced and I want to do it. my car needs a respray and I'm broke so i think I'll try this out...



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i have been reading the thread the last few days, i even have an old fender and some bought some supplies from HD. im gonna try this weekend.

its alot like the old enamal paintjobs cars had up untill base/clear showed up.

and yeah, they use spray paint for certin areas, door jambs, ect. after learning more about it (over 60 pages), i really cant see any reason why it wouldn't work if done right. the worst part seems to be perfecting the application process & avoiding bubbles, it can quickley double the amount of sanding needed.

for those who missed what we're talking about...

the very first page..
http://board.moparts.org/ubbth...&vc=1

and the contiuation of it as part 2...
http://board.moparts.org/ubbth...&vc=1

Modified by zeroluxxx at 11:33 PM 10-20-2006



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Post up your results when you get this finished. I'll probably never do this, but I'm pretty intrigued to see if this can be done effectively and it'll be closer to the source.
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 Re: about the 50 dollar paint job (atrujillo1991) »« »

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Do you guys honestly think that this comes out as well as people say it does? I want to do it to my car because it needs to be painted but i don't want to do it if it looks like something that went to hell and back... any suggestions (I'm 15 and I have a girlfriend therefore, I am broke.)

I wouldn't count on it turning out great. I would expect the worst and then be glad if it turns out better.

Guys have had great results (at least from pictures floating around), but they have also spent many, many hours on it. I would like to see it in person before I ever try it. I.M.O., well balanced camera lighting can hide many imperfections.

To each their own, I'm not hating.

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you could paint your car with a broom and after enough sanding and buffing, it could look good. sure you save money, but you spend a LOT of time working to make it look good.
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 Re: about the 50 dollar paint job (atrujillo1991) »« »

I painted a hood with this method. With some color sanding it'd look really nice. The color i used didn't come out exactly as i expected though, so i'm planning on redoing it. Here's some pictures of the hood during the process. Total time spent was about 4 hours including sanding.
Here's how it started.

After One coat

Second coat

Third coat

Fourth coat and some orange peel

One last coat and here's how it sits now.

This was supposed to be a dark hunter green... but it came out teal.


Modified by wmelon137 at 1:50 PM 10-24-2006



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True it does take alot longer in a sense with this method but if you have the time and patience it comes out awesome. And like they say, its all in the prep.

You have to look at it this way, the hood you did looks pretty damn good, and with a little more fine sanding and buffing it can be perfect.

If anyone isnt satisfied then your only out 20 bux between sandpaper, mineral spirits and a quart.

Mess up a paint job that involves a gun with primer, clear base coats and all the other supplies and your out a ton more.






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WOW
I read the past posts about this subject...and the results seem too great to be true. I can afford putting the extra time into something like this, especially when saving a couple thousand dollars. I'm gonna have to find me some scrap metal and Tremclad is it? Or is this actually Rustoleum in the US? What's the best ratio of paint to thinner to use?
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WOW
I read the past posts about this subject...and the results seem too great to be true. I can afford putting the extra time into something like this, especially when saving a couple thousand dollars. I'm gonna have to find me some scrap metal and Tremclad is it? Or is this actually Rustoleum in the US? What's the best ratio of paint to thinner to use?

You're right. Tremclad is just the Canadian name. It's still Rustoleum. I have a beater 96 Golf that has a horrible paint job done to it from the previous owner. So I'm totally going to start on that. Figure it can't get any worse then what it is right now.

From all of what I've read you pretty much want a watery mix. Very thin. Like I said I'm going to start the process this weekend.

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The nice thing is that you can do it panel by panel if you havethe whole car apart. It isnt dependant on doing it all at once



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It's decided, this summer my car will be black...black seems so vague...is it possible to get a red fleck black paint? Also I noticed in the orange beetle on another post I've seen the car doesn't look as glossy, do they sell a clearcoat that could be done the same way...one more question, what if I just put this paint through the HVLP gun, sure it'll take a lil more paint, but it'll also get it done faster, and maybe look better? I'm very intrigued about this whole $50 paint job thing.
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It's decided, this summer my car will be black...black seems so vague...is it possible to get a red fleck black paint? Also I noticed in the orange beetle on another post I've seen the car doesn't look as glossy, do they sell a clearcoat that could be done the same way...one more question, what if I just put this paint through the HVLP gun, sure it'll take a lil more paint, but it'll also get it done faster, and maybe look better? I'm very intrigued about this whole $50 paint job thing.

It comes premixed. so unless you wanted to add the red fleck yourself, you pretty much just get solid colors. the hood that i did is pretty glossy, with some color sanding and then buffing and polishing it'd be pretty shiny. They also sell a spray on clear coat but it does not appear to be available as a roll on. I haven't tried it but it could probably work ok. I think if you thin it out well enough it should work ok in an HVLP gun, but it's not like it really took that long to paint with a roller



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I've been reading about this as well and plan on doing it.

What is color sanding???

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It comes premixed. so unless you wanted to add the red fleck yourself, you pretty much just get solid colors. the hood that i did is pretty glossy, with some color sanding and then buffing and polishing it'd be pretty shiny. They also sell a spray on clear coat but it does not appear to be available as a roll on. I haven't tried it but it could probably work ok. I think if you thin it out well enough it should work ok in an HVLP gun, but it's not like it really took that long to paint with a roller


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how long does this shine last..? do you have to keep buffing and waxing?



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From what ive been hearing, the shine lasts awhile. Im starting to do my car now so we'll see how it goes



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Well, it's been a about a week now since I cut a piece off a bumper and put it into major prep work, painted, sanded, painted, sanded, it now has 5 layers...however, it looks very dull like i just got done painting with rubber latex, also this stuff did not harden, I can take the paint off simply by forcefully rubbing my thumb against it, annnnnd as smooth as it is, it has little to no shine at all. I'm assuming because it was my first try it turned out this way from the lack of effort. I'm hoping I just didn't wetsand enough or thin the paint down enough...so, I'm cutting another piece off to try again, should have pics of tha first attempt up later today.
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I finished painting my car w/ the "$50 roller" method.

I ended up spending a grand total of around $102.00 and the results are surprising. There are minor flaws here and there mostly due to my impatience, and the fact that I did no body work. Other than that, the paint itself came out perfect.

The "gallery" link on the page below has the final results and the "process" link has the whole process start to finish.
http://www.bryanswebpage.com/Paint/index.htm

Sample of my results:

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Your Mustang came out nicely. Sand much?

Here's mine after much work, prep and finish. But the paint held up very well through Missouri winter and salt, driven daily and not babied.

That said, I would never do it again. With actual automotive paint the results would have been 100x better with less work. I had more time than money that summer so thought I would give it a try. Not diasapointed though.





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I'm doing this right now to touch up certain parts of my car.

I'm REALLY impressed after 1 coat.

Like someone on Honda-tech said though, It's not about a show quality paintjob, it's about regaining some of the respect for your car.

I used Interlux Brightside single stage polyurethane paint (Fire Red) for my CRX

http://www.starboardsupply.com...7b534

It's a very similar method to how I gesso (prepare) wood to (oil) paint on.
Like others have said, it's about prep work. But honestly, if your body is in good condition, and JUST the paint is bad, the Brightside would work PERFECTLY. The fine roller DOES coat VERY, VERY evenly. The problem with a rattle can is the uneveness, same is true for brushwork. The roller makes things VERY flat. and then the finishing sanding and buffing takes care of the smoothness.

The downside is that the paints are weaker than "real" car paints...
But I figure, this Interlux Brightside is a single stage Polyurethane, and "real" car paint is a 3-stage polyurethane, so this is definitely a step up from Enamel.
And if it's good enough for the Seven Seas, it's good enough for the midwest

All in all, this has cost me about $30 so far, and I'm loving my results.
When I am done, I can post pics if I remember...
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What's done for Primer? is this paint job, just roll and go? do you need to sand the original paint off? This is very interesting, and I have spare parts I can paint first and then install, not much to a mk2 GTI and I have small bumpers which will remain Blk.



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You need to mix mineral spirits in with the rustoleum and possibly the boat paint for it to dry in about 8 hours and be hard, if you don't do htis it will take forever to dry and never be hard. If you have a spray gun and all that listen to the advice you will spend way less time by buying actuall car paint and it will look way way better.



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