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Quote, originally posted by pito3 »

Beautiful car! Sounds like you had a blast. But that price tag hurts a bit! I'm sure after driving it though, it was worth every penny.

We just recently drove the Eos 2.0T against the Volvo C70 and Pontiac G6. We'll have the full story soon, but to sum things up, the Eos holds its own against the Volvo, which is roughly $10,000 more off the bat, depending on options. $42k for the fully loaded Eos 3.2 seems steep, but it's actually a good value compared to what else is out there.

i guess but it seems so closely priced to the audi?

FüKeNDüBiN, LI NY

Why does the engine cover logo display "V6" instead of "VR6?" Is VR considered unrefined?

VW remains the "Peoples car"... but the "Peoples" need to bring more money (das loot?).

Which Audi? There is no comparable Audi. It's got two more seats than the TT - which for the same money as the Eos, only has only 180hp - and it is smaller than the A4, which starts at $40K and even then only has 200hp. And both of them have fabric roofs.

the A4 Cabriolet i guess your right it is kind of in its own classb/c it is a hardtop convertable and i guess its smaller than the A4

FüKeNDüBiN, LI NY

this is what im trying to say

FüKeNDüBiN, LI NY

No, you must be kidding. How many "purists" do you actually think would buy said manual 3.2 Eos?

You people need to quit thinking about yourselves and think about a term called "business case". VW will sell a LOT more automatic Eos models than stick. If they added a stick to the 3.2, it's cost hunderds of thousands (if not millions) of dollars in R&D and tooling. They'd sell maybe 100 a year in the US. At this price, the vast, VASt majority of buyers are thinking automatic.

Besides, what purist would buy an Eos? VW has a lovely GTI or GLI just for you I've driven a stick 2.0T Eos, and its a blast to drive. No need for a V6.

To answer some other issues here. VW already sells a 280hp FWD Passat, so 250 isn't unreasonable.

Yes, the Eos really is a better car than the Volvo. I've driven that too. Its an OK car, but the Eos is much more enjoyable froma performance and comfort standpoint. Think a $42K Eos is a rip off? Try the C70.

Which brings me to another point. You'll be hard pressed to see a 3.2 on any delaer lot for more than $40K. Yes, they're be an occasional $42K car, but very few. $42K scares VW dealers as much as it scares us. However, even at $42K, this car is worth it (justified by the competition)

They threw that claim out the window last year when they offered the 280hp 3.6L vr6 in the B6 Passat. Luckily the torque steer is minimal in the B6.

http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...el..3.*

cheers

Actually, the one I drove was $42,330

Base-------------- $36,850
Destination----------- 630
Sport Package-------- 650
Tech Package-------- 1400
Dynaudio Sound------ 1000
Navigation w/ 6-disc- 1800

Total-----------$42,330

There are two navigation options available- one with 6-disc CD changer, the other with iPod adapter. Both of them are listed in the available options, but my car was obviously equipped with only one.

You are correct though. Even with little or no options, the Eos 3.2 is a decent value for around $38,000. Personally, I could live without nav and be really happy with a ~$40k Eos.

FüKeNDüBiN, LI NY

Quote, originally posted by gizmopop »

Nice review, what's up with the pics though? you've got the opening image with the standard headlights while the review car has the Bi-Xenons...

They had several variants for us to drive on the trip. Check out the different plate numbers.

what do you mean, No need for VR6 Manual? Of course there is a need for a manual, Not every one in America likes a Automatic, so who cares if there is a select few of enthusiasts who do want manual, Just do it. Other countries have the option of whether they want a Automatic, or a 6MT, and personally I believe that isn't for us here in the States

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I wonder how the torque steer was on that. Any input would be appreciated,

Quote, originally posted by StoicDude »

Not too many girls around that want to drive a stick these day, therefor an "automatic" [packs up and runs away] I wonder how the torque steer was on that. Any input would be appreciated,

Torque steer essentially doesn't exist in this car. Only the slightest hint in wet conditions.

On your first point (about the girls) you might me surprised to know that the Eos is finding more male buyers than any previous VW convertible in recent years. Perhaps the absence of the basket handle (and not being a Beetle ) is what it takes for guys to widely accept a VW droptop.

Quote, originally posted by Bryan@VMG »

... Perhaps the absence of the basket handle (and not being a Beetle ) is what it takes for guys to widely accept a VW droptop.

Or maybe with the 2.0T it's kinda like a GTI convertible.

Quote, originally posted by MrGTI »

Or maybe with the 2.0T it's kinda like a GTI convertible.

I'd say more like a GLi DHC.

If VW would have put the a 1.8T or VR6 in the Cabrio...
The Eos for the U.S. gets the 2.0T base and the 3.2 VR6...and both transmissions offered are enthusiast minded.

C'mon...what man in their right mind would buy this over a two-year old Boxster or practically new Z4? I think it was business smart to only offer the DSG on the 3.2. It won't sell much as the 2.0T is the better solution for this car, especially with the 6-spd.

I still can't decide whether I like this car or not!

First of all, it's apples and oranges, since cars like the Boxster and Z4 are in a different class of cars than the Eos.

But besides that, there is a huge difference in the prices:

Volkswagen Eos starts at $36,900 Cdn
BMW Z4 starts at $53,900 Cdn
Porsche Boxster starts at $63,600 Cdn