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A buddy of mine blew his ABA racing engine BIG TIME, here are a couple on pictures of the damage.
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| Re: ABA racing engine carnage. (ABA Scirocco) » | « » 4:25 PM 8-1-2007 | |
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Ouch.
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| Re: ABA racing engine carnage. (secondgen) » | « » 4:44 PM 8-1-2007 | |
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Indeed, but he actually can out not too bad, although the entire bottom end is a complete right off, by some miracle, the head came out unscathed and that's were most of the time and money is. He'll have another bottom end ready for this weekend's races.
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| Re: ABA racing engine carnage. (ABA Scirocco) » | « » 5:05 PM 8-1-2007 | |
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It was a complete Eurospec bottom end?
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| Re: ABA racing engine carnage. (secondgen) » | « » 5:15 PM 8-1-2007 | |
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Just the rods were Eurospec. The pistons were Wiseco custom order. There was a problem with one of the Eurospec rods when he put the engine together, he called Eurospec spec about it, they assured him it would be alright, and everything was for several dyno pulls and 6 race weekends but this past weekend she blew. BTW, all of the bearing both rod and main look perfect, it appears one of the rod bolts failed and took out everything else.
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| Re: ABA racing engine carnage. (ABA Scirocco) » | « » 5:46 PM 8-1-2007 | |
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I inherited a GTI 16V that was the same. Hole in the block, connecting rod let go (probably an overstretched stud), piston shattered, etc. Head was fine - I still have it just in case...
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| Re: ABA racing engine carnage. (wclark) » | « » 6:01 PM 8-1-2007 | |
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It's hard to see from the pics but there are 5 holes in that block, 3 of the 4 rods were destroyed as were, 3 of the pistons, the crank,the intermediate shaft, the distributor, the oil pump, water pump and starter. The only things bolted to the block that could be salvaged were the clutch, tranny and head.
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| Re: ABA racing engine carnage. (ABA Scirocco) » | « » 6:06 PM 8-1-2007 | |
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How in the hell did it kill the starter?  That must've been a helluva noise.
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| Re: ABA racing engine carnage. (secondgen) » | « » 7:20 PM 8-1-2007 | |
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what were the specs on that
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| Re: ABA racing engine carnage. (Couper1TEP) » | « » 7:34 PM 8-1-2007 | |
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Stock crank, 83.5mm pistons giving a 13.5:1 cr, it producted about 185hp at the crank with a single dcoe45 sidedraft Weber carb. She let go when coming off the throttle at about 8200rpm.
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| Re: ABA racing engine carnage. (ABA Scirocco) » | « » 9:11 AM 8-3-2007 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by ABA Scirocco » | | She let go when coming off the throttle at about 8200rpm. |
Although the blown bottom end is a bummer, I bet you get some satisfaction knowing that it went out in a blaze of glory... Thats the only way to go
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| Re: ABA racing engine carnage. (Jettaboy1884) » | « » 10:51 PM 8-3-2007 | |
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oh my gawd...the engine suck in a squirrel? jeezus... 
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| Re: ABA racing engine carnage. (MooshyPork) » | « » 9:56 AM 8-5-2007 | |
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Damn I love carnage pics but they aren't working
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| Re: ABA racing engine carnage. (MK2SnowPilot) » | « » 10:20 AM 8-5-2007 | |
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Sorry about that, Geocities sucks, I exceeded my allot bandwidth so the site is temporarily unavailable. Check back again, the pics should be there later.
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| Re: (Gigante) » | « » 9:59 AM 8-6-2007 | |
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Wow What's the story behind that one?
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Lotsa psi.
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| Re: (Gigante) » | « » 1:18 PM 8-6-2007 | |
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how much boost.story plz
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New engine asked for block-guard...
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| Re: (Gigante) » | « » 2:51 PM 8-6-2007 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by Gigante » | New engine asked for block-guard...
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Got anymore images of this set up?
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Nope...I included this image (above) just to tell ya that most of our (brazilian) drag race engines (all over 600hp) require block-guard to avoid a mess like that...But even with a block-guard, some will fall apart under 4.5bar of (turbo) stress...
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| Re: (Gigante) » | « » 7:39 PM 8-6-2007 | |
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i will drank to that
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| Re: (Couper1TEP) » | « » 3:45 AM 8-7-2007 | |
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Holy crap that must of made one hell of a sound when it blew to crack a block completely in half. 4.5 Bar?!!!!!!
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Yep, trust me.
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| Re: (Gigante) » | « » 1:03 PM 8-7-2007 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by Gigante » | | Yep, trust me. |
So when you guys use the girdle + 4.5 bar,everything is fine?
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Hehehe...not always. I've heard about carnage even with that...
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| Re: (Gigante) » | « » 1:56 PM 8-7-2007 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by Gigante » | | Hehehe...not always. I've heard about carnage even with that... |
Hmm...so what measures did they take with such a high horsepower build?
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@GiganteI know many/most of your street cars run alcohol / alcool. Is this true of your drag cars too? Seems that could be a bit of a help when pushing 4.5 bar...
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Well, some of them will make up to 650hp (8V), but we've seen many breaking with less power...high boost, wrong mixture, whatever...The record over here (fwd and non-import radial tires) is 10.978s.
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| Quote, originally posted by snowfox » | | I know many/most of your street cars run alcohol / alcool. Is this true of your drag cars too? Seems that could be a bit of a help when pushing 4.5 bar... |
ALL! 100% of them runs alcohol and MANY will run methanol if allowed. Even @ the streets, 95% willl burn alcohol.
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| Re: (Gigante) » | « » 5:56 PM 8-7-2007 | |
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Gigante,
It looks like you've got a really cool scene happening down there, really high output VW engines like those are something we almost never see up here. Any chance you'd be willing to start a thread showing what goes into putting together an engine like that?
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| Re: (ABA Scirocco) » | « » 7:43 PM 8-7-2007 | |
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Posting up here would be great! Lord knows my Portugese is not up to snuff for checking out your 'local' forums.
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| Re: (snowfox) » | « » 8:24 PM 8-7-2007 | |
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This 16V is good for 700hp PLUS...
http://patay.trenche.com.br/graf.jpg
This one is a 20V... 
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| » | « » 9:23 PM 8-7-2007 | |
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holy christ that is nice.ANd i'm all 8v too
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed that they really know what they're doing in Brazil. I would also like to see some more pics of worked 8v's. I'm assuming that 10.978 was with a turbo, but what about Naturally aspirated 8v's? IIRC, Collin from TT was running low 12's in an NA 8v Rabbit a long time ago. I'd think these guys have the know-how to top that easily. Mike.
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