Also, with 'G' being discontinued, the latest revision logically would be the 'F'.

IMO it is better simply just to replace the back check valve pipe with the new version and get the EJ PCV setup for the front.

Dave

My G rev PCV was blown, so I replaced it with F and ordered a new breather tube to match. When I took off the old breather tube, I found that it was already the new style with a check vavle inside and the part number matched the new one that I had just ordered...

I checked it for leaks and found that it was actually holding air better than the new one I had so I just put it back on the car.

Looks like I wasted $50 but at least I have a spare laying around, I guess...

- Jeremy -

That should mean that you have three check valves instead of two. That may not be a bad idea!

Food for thought: Since 'F' comes after 'E', I would assume that the improvements made on the single valve in 'E' would also be found in the corresponding valve in 'F'.


Modified by ssaffioti at 12:44 PM 12-4-2007

i went round and round with my dealership and vwoa about this. they told me that if my car was equipped with the "E" valve, then "F" would be the replacement. supposedly it's from the audi side and does not require changing the rear tube. the check valves inside the pcv are also supposedly "beefier". they weren't going to put the "G" valve on and nothing i could say or do would change their minds.

my "F" valve has been good to me so far. my original (E) went when i was stock right after the oy update and my new valve (F) has seen stage 1 and stage 2.1 and is still holding strong. i'm over 5k with stage 2 now and i drive it like i stole it all the time.

that one looks like a PITA to replace...is it?

Is the metal pipe hard to change?? That probably depends on your mechanical skill and what tools you have.

Modified by ssaffioti at 1:20 PM 12-4-2007

Quote, originally posted by 818tech »

This is all confusing! I`m a tech at a dealer and I blew my "G" PCV valve on my 07 GTI, when I went to the parts dept, they gave me a "E" valve. I told them to double check to see if that was the correct part #.He said it was. I was in doubt so I called the VW factory tech line. He told me that the E valve was ok because the G valve was discontinued and it was superceeded back to the E. I said "why are the letters going backwords. He said the the E valves are from another company than the G valves so they went back to E. Damn Germans make **** so confusing! He also said the F valve is not the correct valve. Just wanted to share the info.

lol, i love it. i got so frustrated when my "E" valve went, because they were on backorder, that i ordered a "G" valve from fixx tuning and offered it to the service guy. i said "I paid for it, you put it in and cover it".

he wouldn't do it and pulled the printout from vwoa, which stated that the "F" was the one he HAD to use to replace my "E". he even told me the "G" valve with the updated breather wouldn't work at all on my '06, which by now we all know is a crock.

regardless, my "F" works great, and if the "E" breather hose has a check valve in it, and the "F" has 2 check valves, and i plan on doing the DH fix, then i'll have 4 mofo-ing check valves. and if that doesn't hold up, then i'm completely f-ed

also, i think by now with all of the problems it's safe to say that no matter which PCV valve you have, or which brand new one they'll give you, it sucks balls and will break again.

Modified by shue333 at 1:42 PM 12-4-2007

Modified by shue333 at 1:47 PM 12-4-2007

Quote, originally posted by shue333 »

and if that doesn't hold up, then i'm completely f-ed Modified by shue333 at 1:42 PM 12-4-2007

you could always just vent to atmosphere

So if i beat on the car for a while in 93 mode will it make it throw a cel?

2009 GTI - APR 93 STAGE I - INTAKE -14.0 @ 101MPH

2006 PASSAT-AUTO - 14.3 @96MPH-260HP
APR 93 STAGE II - APR TBE - INTAKE - NS PULLEY - NS GAUGE
EJ PCV FIX - 18" ACE DIMENSION-TOYO PROXES4
DRIVEGEAR SPRINGS - 35% TINT.

probably not. get the eurojet fix, or do the DH fix. on mine, the actual pcv housing broke causing a vacuum leak and a high pitched squeal at all vacuum conditions (idle, or moving while off the gas) and popped a CEL. extremely irratic idle also. if you're blowing oil, one of the checkvalves inside your PCV valve is going bad, and won't throw a CEL. and obviously you know how the dealership is if there isn't a CEL

the number is on the bottom of he valve under the round saucer. i'll put up pics if someone can tell me how. i'm puter stoopid

P/N for orange gasket being sold with Valve 'E': 06F 103 483E

not sure about "E" or "F", but "G" gets the same gasket that you listed above.

okay, dude, bear with me, first time picture post!!

the breather tube is connected by the short rubber tubing circled in pic

and the part number is circled on the PCV valve (bottom side)

Modified by shue333 at 4:29 PM 12-4-2007

Modified by shue333 at 4:31 PM 12-4-2007

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Modified by NEW2B at 5:13 AM 12-5-2007

Modified by NEW2B at 5:13 AM 12-5-2007

Modified by NEW2B at 10:48 AM 12-5-2007

2009 GTI - APR 93 STAGE I - INTAKE -14.0 @ 101MPH

2006 PASSAT-AUTO - 14.3 @96MPH-260HP
APR 93 STAGE II - APR TBE - INTAKE - NS PULLEY - NS GAUGE
EJ PCV FIX - 18" ACE DIMENSION-TOYO PROXES4
DRIVEGEAR SPRINGS - 35% TINT.

Quote, originally posted by NEW2B »

ok so i f......up. last night when you said the number is on the bottom of the valve under the round saucer, i thought i had to pull off the round cover. and as carefull as i was i still managed to damage it trying to take it off. i broke a little peace from the tab that locks it in place. i dont think its leaking but now im really pissed off. can i replace just the cover or will i need a new one? has anyone removed this cover? [IMG][/IMG] Modified by NEW2B at 5:13 AM 12-5-2007 Modified by NEW2B at 5:13 AM 12-5-2007 Modified by NEW2B at 10:48 AM 12-5-2007

OH NOOOOOO!!!! dude that sucks. when i said bottom of the valve, i meant the whole valve assembly. sorry i didn't clarify. and i posted the pics a little late. listen - you will know if it's f-ed up. you're idle will whack out, etc. when it starts happening, it's cool to still drive the car. let it throw a CEL and just take it into the dealer and let them replace it

i bet you were cussing me

NOTE: i was checking out your PCV valve and it looks identical to my "G" valve. i'll go out and see if my "F" (which is in the car now) looks any different. i know my "E" has some subtle difference.

Modified by shue333 at 2:20 PM 12-5-2007

Modified by shue333 at 2:29 PM 12-5-2007

Is there anyway New2B could epoxy the piece that broke off back on and then add a little silicone around the cracks? Just curious. TIA

probably so. the only problem with that is he can forget about it being covered under warranty once they see it's been messed with.

with that little piece broken off, he can just give the service advisor the dumb look. "something's broken?!?!?!? "

this part just confuses me :
NOTE: i was checking out your PCV valve and it looks identical to my "G" valve. i'll go out and see if my "F" (which is in the car now) looks any different. i know my "E" has some subtle difference.

Modified by NEW2B at 4:38 AM 12-6-2007

Modified by NEW2B at 4:39 AM 12-6-2007

Modified by NEW2B at 5:15 AM 12-6-2007

2009 GTI - APR 93 STAGE I - INTAKE -14.0 @ 101MPH

2006 PASSAT-AUTO - 14.3 @96MPH-260HP
APR 93 STAGE II - APR TBE - INTAKE - NS PULLEY - NS GAUGE
EJ PCV FIX - 18" ACE DIMENSION-TOYO PROXES4
DRIVEGEAR SPRINGS - 35% TINT.

Maybe try a small cosmetic mirror to see under the housing? I can't remember if there is enough room (I believe their is) and read the part number off like that. New2B, all the housings look identical, but not all are made for every car. I would definitely recommend getting the correct part number before order one that may/may not be compatible with your car. The service manager can look up what the latest revised PCV for your car if he/she has the VIN.

PS...Glad to see you're not losing boost/vacuum. Sorry, I haven't been able to help you more. I just went with what my dealer told me was the latest revision for my car and added the EJ Fix...no problems since.

yes, i can be confusing!!

i used to have an "E" valve until it broke

the dealership replaced it with an "F" valve.

while waiting for the dealer to get the "F" valve, i purchased the "G" valve from fixx tuning.

so i've had them all.

so i remember what the "E" looked like, i can't remeber what the "F" looks like and i have the "G" sitting right in front of me. the "E" and "G" looked different, and yours looks like the one in front of me ("G").

The "F" is in my car with 3" of snow on it, so i'll check tomorrow what it looks like.

lol, how's that for confusing? (Or try a small cosmetic mirror )

Modified by shue333 at 11:03 AM 12-6-2007

Modified by shue333 at 11:04 AM 12-6-2007

2009 GTI - APR 93 STAGE I - INTAKE -14.0 @ 101MPH

2006 PASSAT-AUTO - 14.3 @96MPH-260HP
APR 93 STAGE II - APR TBE - INTAKE - NS PULLEY - NS GAUGE
EJ PCV FIX - 18" ACE DIMENSION-TOYO PROXES4
DRIVEGEAR SPRINGS - 35% TINT.

Modified by NEW2B at 6:01 PM 12-6-2007

Modified by NEW2B at 6:05 PM 12-6-2007

Modified by NEW2B at 6:06 PM 12-6-2007

2009 GTI - APR 93 STAGE I - INTAKE -14.0 @ 101MPH

2006 PASSAT-AUTO - 14.3 @96MPH-260HP
APR 93 STAGE II - APR TBE - INTAKE - NS PULLEY - NS GAUGE
EJ PCV FIX - 18" ACE DIMENSION-TOYO PROXES4
DRIVEGEAR SPRINGS - 35% TINT.