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A3 Custom FogGrill LEDs (non S-line) DIY... | « » 3:52 AM 7-27-2008 | |
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Okay so with overwhelming request to share this DIY , I tried to put together as much photos I was able to take when I was doing this project. It literally took me no more than 2 hours to do both sides (being that I've been doing this project from simple SMT LEDs, to the current 4chip bright LEDs) I"ve had these 4chip LEDs now for 2months, and no issues. For such a small source of light- these are very bright! Not as "sophisticated" looking as AUDi's OEM LEDs- but close enough. This mod is a guaranteed neck-twister. A good alternative I suppose, for the upcoming LED headlamps for the A3. This mod also adds some character to the otherwise plain / standard bumper. Feedbacks appreciated. By the way-- yes- this can be done on S-Lines also- read on.The real thing:
 My version:
 
What you need: -OZnium 4chip superFlux LEDs- prewired (built in resistors already) go to: http://www.oznium.com (14 altogether for both sides) -Wires ( u can get em at RadioShack) - Glue (glue gun, or Gorilla, or whatever glue- that will bond plastic w/out burning it) -3/8" drill bit -pencil/ruler -Red and White heat shrink tubes (radio shack, or pepboys/autostores) -(optional) switch (radio shack or autostores) -clear silicone -wire tap (u can get different types from radio shack or autostores) otherwise electrical tape, and simple knowledge of wirings dos and don'ts will work- as in "splicing" and using basic connectors. -optional- "Add- a Circuit fuse tap" if you want to tap the power directly frm the fuse box(safer) Oznium 4chip LEDs:
 Simple tools and a clean work space:
 Using a measuring tape- pencil in 1" inch space between- you will find that 7LEDs will fit just well in that middle space of the grill (measure from behind) w/out having to cut the akward mid-rib (unless you want to dremmel it off)

 Once you have penciled-in your marks to drill- I recommend using a small drill-bit first to initialize a hole before using the 3/8" drill bit. 

You may want to 'clean' or smooth the edges of the holes- but not too much. Start inserting each LEDs in the holes (end wire goes in from the front).
 I then placed some glue to hold them from behind. And later on- Clear Silicone to prevent water entering the holes (even though the pre-wired LEDs are waterproof). The Black wraps on the LED wires are the built-in resistors/waterproofed. 
The next image below is a little blurry (i apologize) but I was trying to show the heat shrink tubes that I placed over the respective Positives and Negatives after I've split them from each LEDs. Red heat shrink over all the positive wires, and white (or black) heat shrink tubes for the LEds NEG wires. I used my trusty HeatGun to shrink them. You can use a hair dryer.
 Test your LEDs before finishing up/tucking the wires.
 Once the Positive and Negatives are bundled and wrapped in Heat shrink tubes, I then arrange them in one of the slots in the Fog Grill and tucked them in there- perfect space! I then connected each respective polarities to the extra wires I purchased (would would then connect to the Driver parkinglamp wires(no photo) Although I do not have an actual photo of my wire connections- I drew up a basic connection diagram on the photo below. The passenger side LEDs are wired up and routed along the top of the engine bay, hidden under the weather stripping. It is then spliced with the Drivers side LEDs. I have added a "powerline" by tapping-in to the DriverSide parking lamp wires (this "line" that I added I made it easily accessible for future connections of other LEDs (headlamps)- but I will soon be switching over to using an "add-a circuit- fuse tap device". Safer. I also wired in a separate switch and ran the wires into the cabin so I can turn the LEDs off if i dont want them on at night (or select which LEDs I want on - between the FogGrill or the Headlamp). 


I added a chrome strip at the bottom and top to deflect some light out- actually gives a "double" led effect" as if stacked on top of each other.
 And enjoy your inexpensive and simple "facelift"

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Re: A3 Custom FogGrill LEDs (non S-line) DIY... (tiptronic) » | « » 3:57 AM 7-27-2008 | |
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thanks for the DIY.. great job! you know you want to do this for me too now
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Re: A3 Custom FogGrill LEDs (brungold) » | « » 4:07 AM 7-27-2008 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by brungold » | thanks for the DIY.. great job! you know you want to do this for me too now |
Ha! what's in it for me? I would help you- but I'm trying to figure out my headlamp mod- i'm trying hard to figure out how i can mount these inside w/out issues- but am running into some problems-- i may have a fix, but a little bit more tedious. If it fails- i'm reverting back to the Flexible Strips for the headlamps (I have a set already - whiter-neutral- unlike the previous strips i used that had a buish hue) If i do use the flexistrips- i will try to fashion it to mimic the A7 concept light bar.. e
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Re: A3 Custom FogGrill LEDs (non S-line) DIY... (tiptronic) » | « » 6:59 AM 7-27-2008 | |
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Added to the diy. thanks
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very simple write up. good job erick. I been tryin to figure out how I wanna do this for my S-Line on top of wanting to remove the foglight backplate [for no other reason then asthetics and possibly cooler air, if even that.]. But you've definitely got the originality!
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Re: A3 Custom FogGrill LEDs (non S-line) DIY... (tiptronic) » | « » 11:44 AM 7-27-2008 | |
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Wow. This is a mod that should be packaged and sold for all non S-line fogs... seriously, great mod that turns the A3 into something more updated and definitely a lot sicker looking when someone sees you in their rearview! Kudos to the great write up and the clear pics. Something I may tackle later down the road since it seems easy to do!
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Re: (the4ringer) » | « » 11:58 AM 7-27-2008 | |
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The4ringer- For the S-Line bumpers- It is possible- but the position i think would be best at the upper edge of the Fog grill area a la Q7 V12 TDI style. However , fabrication of a mount for the LEDs is required... like this: and check this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv1E9rna5Ps
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Re: (tiptronic) » | « » 12:32 PM 7-27-2008 | |
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Another good thing about this mod is that it can also be implemented on the new 09 A3s (non s) standard fog grills. The headlamp LEDs for tne new A3 i believe is only an option if you choose HID bi-xenons.
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Re: (tiptronic) » | « » 1:09 PM 7-27-2008 | |
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Dude, you are my hero- that is my next mod! I have a base 06, no fogs (ok, please keep reading when you are done laughing... )- if I run the LEDs from one side of the fogless grill insert to the other, I will obviously use more LEDs- will there be any issue with using more lights?
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Re: (skotti) » | « » 1:36 PM 7-27-2008 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by skotti » | Dude, you are my hero- that is my next mod! I have a base 06, no fogs (ok, please keep reading when you are done laughing... )- if I run the LEDs from one side of the fogless grill insert to the other, I will obviously use more LEDs- will there be any issue with using more lights? |
No- there are no problem using additional LEDs. Im currently modding my projector headlamps with 12 leds in each housing using the same ''powerline'' that i have tapped into the parking lamp wires. These LEDs barely emit any heat, nor does it use a lot of power- u can hook them up to a 12v line and leave it on 24hours on end w/out draining too much power.
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Re: (tiptronic) » | « » 3:23 PM 7-27-2008 | |
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thx i plan to do this asap
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Re: (Digipix) » | « » 9:27 PM 7-27-2008 | |
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Totally awesome DIY!!!Said it before, and I'll say it again...Tiptronic is the shizz!
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Re: A3 Custom FogGrill LEDs (grubble) » | « » 11:22 PM 7-27-2008 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by grubble » | | Wow. This is a mod that should be packaged and sold for all non S-line fogs... seriously, great mod that turns the A3 into something more updated and definitely a lot sicker looking when someone sees you in their rearview! Kudos to the great write up and the clear pics. Something I may tackle later down the road since it seems easy to do! | And yes Thanks for the comments. Yes they are quite easy to do. And yes even I am stoked when i had my friend follow me in the Audi while i drove the Passat. The LEDs are bright for daytime use- acts as a pseudo DRL. Terje77
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Re: A3 Custom FogGrill LEDs (tiptronic) » | « » 2:57 PM 7-28-2008 | |
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Hey Tiptronic - Great writeup! Thanks for sharing the photos.Here's the direct link to the product: http://www.oznium.com/prewired-superflux I've also added a few of your photos to the action shot page: http://www.oznium.com/prewired...page3 Keep up the good work 
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oh concord, i can just stop by during lunch break
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oh snap. you guys are in concord?! shooooooot. ima deff stop by when im ready for this.
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Re: A3 Custom FogGrill LEDs (Oznium.com) » | « » 5:28 PM 7-28-2008 | |
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Hi Oznium.com- yeah your products are addicting! lolmaybe in the future i can send you a design proposal for the 4chip or 5mm LED housing so they can be easy fit in the headlamps- im still trying to figure out how i can arrange and mount the 4chips inside the headlamps , w/out taking too much space- like my previous LED strip project see below: but i want to replace them with the 4chip LEDs.

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Looks awesome. In your setup, are the LEDs connected in parallel or in series?
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The headlamp LEDS are ''Flexible waterproof encased LED strip. see below: but i want to replace them with 12 individual 4chip LEDS for brighter and better output/aesthetic. Here a couple of close up photos from previous project


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Re: (A3_yuppie) » | « » 6:17 PM 7-28-2008 | |
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I guess you have to have one resistor for each individual LED? Did you try to string all of the positive and neg wires together before just one of the resistors? It seems that you have a lot of stuff 'stuffed' behind the grill due to the resistors.It would be nice if you could wire them together in parallel to cut down on all the wires. Anyone know enough about electricity to answer this one?
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Re: (drew138) » | « » 6:30 PM 7-28-2008 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by drew138 » | | I guess you have to have one resistor for each individual LED? Did you try to string all of the positive and neg wires together before just one of the resistors? It seems that you have a lot of stuff 'stuffed' behind the grill due to the resistors. It would be nice if you could wire them together in parallel to cut down on all the wires. Anyone know enough about electricity to answer this one? |
Yes that would be ideal- but since they came built-in for each- i didnt bother to remove them and test if one resistor wud work. I think we ca direct that question directly to Oznium reps. They do sell 4chip leds- with no hook up and resistors and no protective holders. properly arranging the wires in the slot actually is a perfect fit  Once i finish the headlamps- i want to takle the taiilamps.. e
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Re: Concord & Local Sales: Yep, the Oznium warehouse is in Concord CA, but unfortunately we're closed to the public. We cannot accept walk-in customers nor local pick-ups. All sales must be made online (or phone).In the future we may have a local "brick and mortar" presence with traditional retail sales. Right now we don't have the resources to maintain our high "Oznium" standards for a local retail outlet. So rather than fall short, we operate strictly online. Local customers are, however, lucky to take advantage of next-day delivery for a flat shipping cost of only $4.20! Thank you for understanding, and we look forward to continue making The Bay glow like no other. Re; Wiring together with only one resistor: It's a good idea, but not really practical. For now, the best solution is just to use the Pre-wired Superflux 4-chip LEDs, and keep the resistors on there. While technically, it is possible to run the LEDs in series, or with fewer resistors, you'll have to do your own electrical calculations to figure out the proper configuration. The pre-wired ones are already set up for the car's 12v electrical system, and they have a nice waterproof mounting base. Keep up the good work. You guys are a creative bunch!
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Re: (Oznium.com) » | « » 8:58 PM 7-28-2008 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by Oznium.com » | Re; Wiring together with only one resistor: It's a good idea, but not really practical. For now, the best solution is just to use the Pre-wired Superflux 4-chip LEDs, and keep the resistors on there.While technically, it is possible to run the LEDs in series, or with fewer resistors, you'll have to do your own electrical calculations to figure out the proper configuration. The pre-wired ones are already set up for the car's 12v electrical system, and they have a nice waterproof mounting base. Keep up the good work. You guys are a creative bunch! |
That's what i thought- that proper resistors needs to be coupled with LEDs if doing a series. I really like the fact that Oznium offer these pre-wired! I havent had any single electrical lighting malfunction using these LEDS. And guys- shipping is really fast!! e
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Re: (tiptronic) » | « » 12:40 PM 7-29-2008 | |
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hey e, so you tapped into the parking light for power? so just to make sure.. LED -> parking light fuse -> interior switch? also, can we see the switch you are using in the interior? sorry for the noob electrical questions.. my buddy with a black non-sline is going to order the LEDs and give this a shot. any chance we can enlist your help? we'll bring beer .
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oznium...do you have lights that will fit a 1/4" hole? that looks like the only amount of space we'd have on the s-line cars...
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| Quote, originally posted by drew138 » | | I guess you have to have one resistor for each individual LED? Did you try to string all of the positive and neg wires together before just one of the resistors? It seems that you have a lot of stuff 'stuffed' behind the grill due to the resistors. It would be nice if you could wire them together in parallel to cut down on all the wires. Anyone know enough about electricity to answer this one? |
I would test all the wires/lights first, THEN I would heat-shrink all of the wires together for each side, then run then mount them in place. Conceals water and keeps everything nice and neat.
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Re: (krazyboi) » | « » 3:05 PM 7-29-2008 | |
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Where on the S Line's grill do you plan to put it? I was studying the S Line grill last night and I figured that the best location would still be right under the middle slat/rib/bar (whatever you want to call it). That mid-slat will act as a "shade" for the LEDs for/when using it as DRL to shield for direct sunlight. From what i see- I think 7 LEDs will fit in there w/ 1" space in-between. I would need see/study an actual SLine grill in person- but it is possible!
| Quote, originally posted by krazyboi » | | oznium...do you have lights that will fit a 1/4" hole? that looks like the only amount of space we'd have on the s-line cars... |
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not sure just yet but I'm going to look at it more. thinking Iif i have to custom fab the section, then so be it. Also go an idea for a switch as well.what are you using for a switch?
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[QUOTE=the4ringer]not sure just yet but I'm going to look at it more. thinking Iif i have to custom fab the section, then so be it. Also go an idea for a switch as well.what are you using for a switch?[/QUOTE I orderd a switch from Oz, or you can pick them up at Pepboys or Radioshack... I was going to use one w/ LED indicator..but settled with simple on/off switch..i have it hidden near the hood release latch inside the cabin. Here's a amateur photoshop of what it may look like (although i measured incorrectly and placed 8 "leds".. but hey, maybe 8 will work too, instead of 7 
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i'm digging that now i know what you're talking about...i gotta lose my mesh grill
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Re: (krazyboi) » | « » 3:37 PM 7-29-2008 | |
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you dont have to lose the mesh- as a matter of fact, you can just get a firm plastic sheet (maybe like a painter's shield- they come in black..same pliability, material as the wheelwells.. I think you can get them for 5 bucks. I used them before when i was trying to replicate a hood/housnig for the LEDs when i tried to place them inside a la new A3's headlamp HIDs (this is even before they released the official photos haha) but mounting/securing was an issue. Anyways, yes, i think you can just use a plastic- maybe a half inch height, 7 or 8" width (to fit between the center towards the foglamp surround) then glue it over your mesh, then let it dry then drill the 3/8" holes.. sounds clear?And thanks for that photo- much better- I would recommend checking to see if it looks better under the middle slat..or right under the upper edge of the bumpers- pretty much the same position as the OEM S6 leds.. e
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Re: (tiptronic) » | « » 3:42 PM 7-29-2008 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by tiptronic » | you dont have to lose the mesh- as a matter of fact, you can just get a firm plastic sheet (maybe like a painter's shield- they come in black..same pliability, material as the wheelwells.. I think you can get them for 5 bucks. I used them before when i was trying to replicate a hood/housnig for the LEDs when i tried to place them inside a la new A3's headlamp HIDs (this is even before they released the official photos haha) but mounting/securing was an issue. Anyways, yes, i think you can just use a plastic- maybe a half inch height, 7 or 8" width (to fit between the center towards the foglamp surround) then glue it over your mesh, then let it dry then drill the 3/8" holes.. sounds clear?And thanks for that photo- much better- I would recommend checking to see if it looks better under the middle slat..or right under the upper edge of the bumpers- pretty much the same position as the OEM S6 leds.. e |
clear as mud! j/k. thanks again for the great write up. i'm going to measure it up to see if i should go w/ 7 or 8 per side!
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Re: (krazyboi) » | « » 3:45 PM 7-29-2008 | |
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The reason why i had to go with 7 leds in the standard fog grill is because of a middle rib- using a 1" space inbetween eliminated having to cut/dremmel that mid rib and the aesthetics of the LED's conformed positions is preserved. With the SLine grill since there's no mid rib to obstruct- i can assume you can fit more than 7 leds..but be careful with the "light bar" effect if you put them too close to each other.. e
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Re: (tiptronic) » | « » 3:51 PM 7-29-2008 | |
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This is my plan with the sline. I'm trying to buy a spare set so I can work on them outside of the car. The reason I wanted to move the resistors is that there is no where to hide the bulk of everything. I've already ordered the 4chips. 3/8" should work there on the sline,but I want a test first. 
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Re: (drew138) » | « » 4:11 PM 7-29-2008 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by drew138 » | This is my plan with the sline. I'm trying to buy a spare set so I can work on them outside of the car. The reason I wanted to move the resistors is that there is no where to hide the bulk of everything. I've already ordered the 4chips. 3/8" should work there on the sline,but I want a test first.  |
Have fun and keep us updated- that way other Sline owners can join in and add their own- and- wouldnt it be nice to see other A3s with these custom Leds? sets itself apart from other cars... and maybe Audi will take note... Ive seen this same customization on older Audis (w.out the current corporate schnoz/grill) and it just doesnt look right. it seem that this project blends well with the current audi face.
"get out of the Bitterbarn and Play in the Hay"07 A3 2.0T S-tronic ; 2001.5 Passat GLX v6.
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