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I've seen advertisements for the devices that you plug into your vehicle and it's supposed to keep rust away from the entire car. I can't think of any brands or models but does anyone know anything about them? Do they work, are there some that are better than others, any first hand experience or links to others with experience, etc. Living in Ohio rust is a serious problem and I'm looking for good ways to combat it.



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 Re: Electric rust protection? (GahannaKid) »« »

If I knew WTF was going on in Physics 212 (Electricity and Magnetism) I would answer this. Too bad I don't.



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 Re: Electric rust protection? (chrisvette49) »« »

Just get an oil spray. Unless you like the false security of a blinking light on the module. How would it protect the doors if the hinges are lubricated?



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 Re: Electric rust protection? (GahannaKid) »« »

Don't waste your money. They are complete and utter crap.

On the other hand... I have some swamp land you may be interested in.



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 Re: Electric rust protection? (Gary C) »« »

Buy an 8v mk2 and run full synthetic in it on stock seals.Stock up on said oil. Instant rust prevention!

On a serious note someguy in europe did this with a Rallye Golf all it did was pass like .1 V through the body. Worked though.



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My blue Volvo 240 had one on it when I bought it.


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Just get an oil spray. Unless you like the false security of a blinking light on the module. How would it protect the doors if the hinges are lubricated?


Not that I'm advocating this electronic rust protection, but all the parts on your car (hinged or not) are grounded. Things like the hood truck and doors have a bonding strap, or some other means of making them one with the rest of the chassis.



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Quote, originally posted by justin717 »
On a serious note someguy in europe did this with a Rallye Golf all it did was pass like .1 V through the body. Worked though.

Heh, didn't seem to work for TehAndy. I'm always skeptical of products like this but it's better to ask than never know.

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 Re: Electric rust protection? (GahannaKid) »« »

Not to profess an astounding knowledge of electricity or rust.

But how many people who are spouting these answers out know how rust is formed?

Yeah water and a ferrors metal combining, but the thing you guys are missing is that it is due to the electron flow OUT of the metal.

Hell the damn US Navy spends millions and probably billions on designing Electric rust protection systems and sacrificial Zinc patches on ships so they must know something we don't.

The electricity that is applied to the body of the car is used to even out the electrical potential between the body of the car and the environment so the electrons are less likely to flow out of the metal thereby reducing the formation of rust. It does not prevent rust, just slows it down.

With that being said, I have never used one so I have no personal experience with it.




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 Re: Electric rust protection? (mack73) »« »

Eh, I'll stick to my pneumatic oil life extender.



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Electric schmelectric -- my rust guard is powered by ACORNS!





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 Re: Electric rust protection? (mack73) »« »

Quote, originally posted by mack73 »
Not to profess an astounding knowledge of electricity or rust.

But how many people who are spouting these answers out know how rust is formed?

Yeah water and a ferrors metal combining, but the thing you guys are missing is that it is due to the electron flow OUT of the metal.

Hell the damn US Navy spends millions and probably billions on designing Electric rust protection systems and sacrificial Zinc patches on ships so they must know something we don't.

The electricity that is applied to the body of the car is used to even out the electrical potential between the body of the car and the environment so the electrons are less likely to flow out of the metal thereby reducing the formation of rust. It does not prevent rust, just slows it down.

With that being said, I have never used one so I have no personal experience with it.

It's very effective on steel hull ships in salt water. They are a must have.
As long as it is adjusted right, there is very little, or no corrosion.

The bolt on parts of your car, must be bonded to ensure proper conductivity.





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Gary,
If that land comes with any Alligators or Crocodiles then I'm in. I've always wanted some nice cowboy boots

Nope no crocs. That last plot of land withgat'rs sold to a guy lookin to open dis 'er gator farm :: Points o'er yonder :: all this land comes with, is swamp.

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Quote, originally posted by mack73 »
Not to profess an astounding knowledge of electricity or rust.

But how many people who are spouting these answers out know how rust is formed?

Yeah water and a ferrors metal combining, but the thing you guys are missing is that it is due to the electron flow OUT of the metal.

Hell the damn US Navy spends millions and probably billions on designing Electric rust protection systems and sacrificial Zinc patches on ships so they must know something we don't.

The electricity that is applied to the body of the car is used to even out the electrical potential between the body of the car and the environment so the electrons are less likely to flow out of the metal thereby reducing the formation of rust. It does not prevent rust, just slows it down.

With that being said, I have never used one so I have no personal experience with it.

I never said the process called Cathodic Protection didn't work. It does in fact work awesomely well, for it's intended applications. Being steel hulled ships, outboard motors, in ground pipes, steel bridges, etc. Those however all have one thing in common, a closed loop system. Salt Water closes the loop in the outboard / hull example, for instance.

Look it up... if you wanted to really do this the right way you would need hundreds of anodes placed all over the vehicle, right where the rust would be prone. It doesn't start under wet metal, nor dry steel. It actually starts at the junction between the two. Each junction would need it's own anode. A steel boat hull is the PERFECT example of why this works in that application.

I only deal with the stuff (rust) and fixed failed "protected" classic vehicles... on a regular basis. Hell, I'd be a happy camper and the BIGGEST proponent of the stuff if it did work truth be told. I'd be HAPPY to sell them to every customer that walked in the shop. Reason is I sure as hell enjoy customizing a HECK of a lot more than rust repair. Much rather be able to do custom rather than repair *before* starting the custom.

Modified by Gary C at 6:23 PM 10-15-2008



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