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I like it, just wish it would come in a manual...



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I thought the front brakes from the TDI cup cars were sourced from the R8...



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and i thought i had wheel gap issues...

must be the pre-runner package

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I like it, just wish it would come in a manual...

it won't because most american drivers are too stupid and don't know how to drive a manual any more. Only about 8 pecent of car sales were manuals last year. Besides, how can you shift if you got a cell phone glued to your pie hole...

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Will the DSG gear set be the same as the R32?



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 Re: 2008 SEMA - Volkswagen Jetta TDI Cup "Street" Edition (jamie@vwvortex) »« »

SWEET MOTHER!

That's EXACTLY what I want (or NEED) for commuting to work! I voted Yes on the GTI TDI thread, but this Jetta Cup would work just fine! They should do a GTI though, too!

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Now if only it was a hatchback



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I'm really interested... would not go with it unless I could get a manual and a hatch... the rest of it is very nice...
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Even though I prefer manual transmissions, I could live with the DSG. I just want it in a much more useful hatch configuration.



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Ill take on TDICupGTI in 6sp manual please........NO?!....... wait......what......really?



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wtf is with all the 'special' cars getting DSG? My interest in this car just went to zero.



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wtf is with all the 'special' cars getting DSG? My interest in this car just went to zero.


Yea, if all these cars are supposed to be special "sport" editions of some sorts then why cant i choose to row if i want?


Its like my dads friend and his automatic corvette. Unless you have onne leg or a missing arm, grow some cojones and run the gears yourself.

Modified by 96GTI8v at 5:43 AM 11-6-2008



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it will be available in manual and DSG. I spoke to the VW rep at SEMA.
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It's still is a Jetta...and DSG would kill any interest from me.



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 Re: 2008 SEMA - Volkswagen Jetta TDI Cup "Street" Edition (jamie@vwvortex) »« »

it's ummmmm.... cute? the brakes are cute - i bet the power figures are cute - & i bet it would look cute getting trashed by a totally stock 1989 16v GTI around the track. I know VW has better engineers then that. they need to stop letting those wimpy marketing idiots dictate what hits the market. & fire all the artsy idiots who do the body design... lets get to something great!

I would settle for a 205hp 6 speed DSG or preferably Manual Haldex AWD Hatchback. nothing less... if it's less I will jsut build it from a real VW (MKII Golf)



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 Re: 2008 SEMA - Volkswagen Jetta TDI Cup "Street" Edition (jamie@vwvortex) »« »

i am just fine with the DSG like everyone else wants out.... I want the SportWagen version of this!!



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 Re: 2008 SEMA - Volkswagen Jetta TDI Cup "Street" Edition (02VDubGTI) »« »

They better offer a manual in that thing. Let's list the following cars that are ruined by the lack of a proper transmission.

-MK5 R32
-Fahrenheit GTI
-Passat 3.6
-Eos 3.2

Seriously VW, please for just a moment stop thinking that the DSG is God's gift to the performance-oriented enthusiast.



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 Re: 2008 SEMA - Volkswagen Jetta TDI Cup "Street" Edition (NotoriousDUB) »« »

DSG is gods gift to a fast car... it's far better then a manual will ever be - as far as getting to speed fast... but i do really enderstand the desire for a manual

I wnt it to be a manual too.



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Sign me up..with a 5-spd that is...



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Sign me up..with a 5-spd that is...

The regular Jetta TDI comes with either a 6-speed manual...or 6-speed DSG...



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Sign me up..with a 5-spd that is...

Ok so I meant 6-speed



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seriously... WTF is with this new tend of "performance" cars with auto boxes at least offer the people who want manual transmissions the choice, even if it has to be built to order?



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Um... DSG isn't an auto. it's a maual with 2 clutches that will shift for you... the real reason Auto Sluchboxees suck is because they will eat 20% of your power & fuel maleage... the DSG will not do that. from a pure preformance standpoint the DSG is far better then any manual will ever be... but like you said - people shold be able to purchase them as manuals. most peo;e don't want th performance as much as the want the cool felling they get when they shift, & most people will never drive the cars hard enough to care.



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 Re: 2008 SEMA - Volkswagen Jetta TDI Cup "Street" Edition (jamie@vwvortex) »« »

What a great car, as long as we get the manual trans. But I just don't like that 'Thunder Bunny' gaping maw nose, and of course the ride height......and then bring a Golf and wagon version.



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lowering it would only make it handle worse & suck to drive in parking lots & on freeways in certain states.



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lowering it would only make it handle worse & suck to drive in parking lots & on freeways in certain states.

Ummm, a lower center of gravity will not make it handle worse, that's why all performance versions of cars sit lower. I didn't say slam it, but a GTI style ride height would enhance the looks, the performance, and, IMO, the appeal to the target audience.



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they pay alot of $$ to alot of engineers to design that car... the suspension geometry is set up just right a a stock ride height. the only thing lowering is good for is pleasing the average dude who has no clue & has never gone fast in competition. if you look at real factoy based racecars - they are not lowered. the body is just modified a hair to keep the air out from under the car. in order to lower without harming handling - the position of the wheel centerline needs to change in relation to the ball joint & tie rod end. this would require a different wheel bearing housing. I have yet to see VW do that for it's "performance" models. if you have driven both in stock form & think the lower one handles better... consider the shocks, spring rate, sway bars, & tires. there are many good books on suspension geometery that may be worth reading.



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So when the frick are we getting a TDI Rabbit? I have ZERO interest in a Jetta, Jetta "Street" edition, or a Jetta "sportwagen".
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I am sooooo with you on that.



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 Re: 2008 SEMA - Volkswagen Jetta TDI Cup "Street" Edition (FrankenCar) »« »

ya this car is pretty sweet, but its lacking something... hmm

-front bumper
-ugly stickers
-possibly wont come with a manual
-trunk


i think a hatchback or sportwagon would be nice!
its nice to see they are making a sport tdi



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they pay alot of $$ to alot of engineers to design that car... the suspension geometry is set up just right a a stock ride height. the only thing lowering is good for is pleasing the average dude who has no clue & has never gone fast in competition. if you look at real factoy based racecars - they are not lowered. the body is just modified a hair to keep the air out from under the car. in order to lower without harming handling - the position of the wheel centerline needs to change in relation to the ball joint & tie rod end. this would require a different wheel bearing housing. I have yet to see VW do that for it's "performance" models. if you have driven both in stock form & think the lower one handles better... consider the shocks, spring rate, sway bars, & tires. there are many good books on suspension geometery that may be worth reading.

True, but then since VW sets the R32 & GTI's suspension lower than the Rabbit and Jetta, are they doing this to please average clueless dudes, and not to enhance the performance? I guess they did this for the same reasons when they lowered the MKIV GLI 1.8T and 20thAE GTI's?? Or the fact that the same VW engineers actually design the cars with a lower ride height in the home countries in Europe, and raise the cars for the US market.

Again, I agree that a slammed suspension is just for looks, and ruins the ride and usefulness of the car, but obviously a proper lower ride height is a performance enhancement, and a performance model like this car deserves it, just like the GTI.



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well technically they did do that to the 20th ann. GTIs. iirc. But dont quote me on that



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 Re: 2008 SEMA - Volkswagen Jetta TDI Cup "Street" Edition (jamie@vwvortex) »« »

this is gotta be a preview of the gti tdi. (if they give us one)



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well technically they did do that to the 20th ann. GTIs. iirc. But dont quote me on that

My point exactly, they did. When the VW engineers, like those of the other manufacturers want to make their cars handle better and have a more sporting feel, they include lowering the car to improve the center of gravity.



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