The thinly disguised Scirocco "Studie R" that you see here, is in fact basically the European Scirocco R model. Expected to arrive in Europe during 2009, the Scirocco R model will be built at the factory in Portugal which is *not* equipped to produce all-wheel-drive models. This means that the 270hp 2.0T will be putting power down through front wheels only, albeit with a new limited slip system. That's the bad news.

Good news is that those that have driven the car say that the system puts power down fairly effectively and the car is high on the fun-to-drive meter. Think of the best traits of the GTI and make it wider and lower and you have a fair idea of what the car is like.

So the burning question: will it come to America? Well... At the Paris Auto Show I had a chance to sit down with VWoA's current ruling leader, Stefan Jacoby and had a good time talking about VW's future plans. He asked me what I thought of a high trim-level Scirocco, perhaps in "R" sport trim, 265hp, sport seats, big brakes, etc., etc. My first question was if all-wheel-drive is part of the equation (it isn't) and the second was price. Since the Scirocco is really just a sportier GTI, there is the very real possibility that it could cannibalize GTI sales. VW would likely position the Scirocco at a starting price north of $30k to distance it from the GTI which puts it on shaky ground. Selling the Scirocco at a price point potentially $10,000 more expensive than a MazdaSpeed 3 is a very tough proposition. I'd like to see cool stuff like the Scirocco as much as anyone else, but I also want a car like this to be *successful* so we see more of them in the future. While the die-hard faithful will buy a few of them, I fear that we'll have the Golf VI R32 all over again where the remaining surplus of cars languishes on dealer lots and need big incentives to move them.

At this point a final decision hasn't been reached and almost anything could happen given the state of the car industry and the economy in general. We'll keep you posted as soon as we hear something, but feel free to chime in with your opinion here in our forums.

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From auto week magazine

Revealed: Volkswagen Scirocco Studie R
By DALE JEWETT

The Volkswagen Scirocco Studie R
VolkswagenVolkswagen used the Bologna motor show to roll out the Scirocco Studie R concept. And what we see is pointing the way to a car we expect to replace the Golf R32 in VW's lineup about a year from now. This new car is likely to be called the R20T.

Under the hood is a turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine rated at about 270 hp. The engine is mated to a six-speed dual-clutch transmission.

The exterior of the Studie R wears bodywork-- including hood vents and a rear spoiler--similar to that used on Sciroccos that grabbed racing victories at Nürburgring earlier this year. The car also sports high-gloss black detailing and red and green accents.

It also gets a racing-derived sports suspension, four-piston brake calipers and triple-spoke, 19-inch alloy wheels.

Modified by DUB_SOLID at 9:12 AM 12-5-2008

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I want someone from VW to let me drive one.

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DSG feels like an old arcade game. I keep looking for a spot to insert the quarters.

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I think VWOA should indeed bring this car here...under one condition it should be a limited R model. what this means is the price will sadly be higher, but it would not canabilize the GTI sales. Seeing that the price tag starts at over 30k ,with options and loan intrest the car should come out to about 13-17K more than the Gti . The cars will definantly sell out and fast if their is only 5000 of them

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VW listen up. If you are thinking about bringing this car to the US DON'T F IT UP.
If you are going to call it an R it MUST have AWD no if ands or buts. I don't want some
snooty german technician telling me how this new limited slip will do a,b and c and is better than AWD because x, y and z. We don't want to hear excuses.

FIT THE CAR WITH AWD OR DON'T BRING IT TO THE US

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Limited edition should sell well.
Mass produced with a lower cost should sell even better.

- Must have 6spd!
- AWD would be favorable. Make this the R model, drop the golf R. Give the people what they want.. A true sports car, not a plain GTI w/ AWD for + $10K
*(lackluster MKv R sales are due to styling/blandness, lack of a 3rd pedal(no one truley cares if DSG is .05 sec faster), and the fact that the better looking, cheaper GTI will all but outperform the R cept' in the twisties.

Want to shock the press, fans & general public? Want to complete w/ other classes like the 370Z & others? Keep it fresh, keep em guessing, keep doing what VW does.. taking risks, proving points, pushing the envelope, widening market audience. Make it RWD!
Now VW can enter the Drift game. (not my thing but its liked by many)- Now put it in a video game & make some more $$.

On the flip- the larger golf R w/ AWD is more practical & may appeal to a general audience.

Whatever you do VW, please bring it to America. Just dont dumb it down. Buyers dont need a thousand gadget features. We'd rather have performance, handling, styling & build quality. (not elec e brakes, umbrella pockets, 20 way power seats, $3K navi, multi zone climatronic & more.

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Agreed, And throw in a 6 speed with a 3.6L VR6!!!! Then u get power, and style, with even more enjoyment. Then, it could replace the R32...

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italy edition only goes so far.

i want a GERMAN edition

Modified by 84SciroccoX-FLOW at 5:01 PM 12-11-2008

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Dang, i want it just for the interior alone! Those seats and wheel would do nice to sprouse up the inside of my '04 R32! but by the time it makes it to our financially challenged shores I may be ready to trade in the .:R..... maybe....

I dunnnoooooooooo, Not sure even this will replace my 04 R32.

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Notwithstanding the interior and styling features, a 2009 Subaru WRX Sti starts at 35k and an 2008 Lancer Evo was in the mid 30's (MSRP both examples). Each of these has AWD and have right around 300hp. If VW wants to compete in that space and not cannabalize sales from the GTI, they need to justify the premium price with a little more distinguishment in capability. If they can outdo Subaru and Mitsubishi in the fit/finish/interior styling department and have comparable performance, I think plenty of people who would rather buy the VW would finally find something to satisfy there needs. Unfortunately, you probably get into competing with some Audi sales at that point though.... tough situation for VW.