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Mercedes-Benz adjusts GLK option packages, issues refunds | « » 6:58 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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http://www.autoweek.com/articl...39993 | Quote, originally posted by Autoweek » | | Mercedes-Benz has adjusted option packages on its new GLK-class premium SUV to help cope with an oversupply of high-priced versions. Ernst Lieb, CEO of Mercedes-Benz USA, said the company exported too many high-end models for the January U.S. launch. "We planned production in June and July of last year, and we didn't know where we would be in January," he said. "We had models coming at $40,000-plus." Dealers say U.S. customers came into showrooms expecting to find more GLKs at the highly advertised price of $34,775 for the two-wheel-drive version. The all-wheel-drive starts at $36,775. Both prices include shipping. Instead, dealership stock consisted largely of vehicles loaded with options. To lure buyers, Mercedes-Benz placed an interest rate of 1.9 percent for up to 66 months on the GLK class in February. This month, Mercedes changed its option package. The sunroof, a feature many buyers wanted, had been lumped into a $3,150 option package. Mercedes now offers it as a stand-alone option for $1,450. A multimedia package, including a navigation system, was priced at $3,350. It can now be ordered separately for $1,800. Those who purchased a GLK equipped with either package in February or March received a $2,000 refund. Mercedes wouldn't say how many buyers got the refund. |
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that car is fawking pointless. just like the Tiguan.but whateeeeeever. build it and they will come 
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1500 for a sunroof? Thanks Mercedes.
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Re: Mercedes-Benz adjusts GLK option packages, issues refunds (Wimbledon) » | « » 7:02 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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I don't see why everything has to be lumped together in one large package for $3-5k... I like certain 'convenience' and 'technology' packages where it combines two or three like items and cuts down on individual costs of the said items, but $3k+ just so you can have a sunroof an a bunch of options/items you may not want/need?
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Re: (HoyaDub) » | « » 7:02 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by HoyaDub » | | that car is fawking pointless. just like the Tiguan. but whateeeeeever. build it and they will come  |
The bigger the Mercedes badge on the front, the more status searchers will buy. Unfortunately MBNA forgot these people don't have real money.
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^ I know both of you think that sort of statement makes you cool, but small crossovers do have their uses - and depending on location and lifestyle, are more useful than both conventional cars and traditional SUVs. Or am I missing a vehicle type that can get you over a crappy dirt road to a trailhead full of camping gear and bikes while still returning 25-30mpg? Naturally, this is more expensive than many small crossovers, but there be plenty yuppies in the Snow Belt who'd snap more reasonably priced versions up. Now, only selling loaded versions? That's pointless. But the basic concept of an all-rounder that can do most things well is not actually pointless.
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Re: Mercedes-Benz adjusts GLK option packages, issues refunds (Vee-Dubber-GLI) » | « » 7:04 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by Vee-Dubber-GLI » | I don't see why everything has to be lumped together in one large package for $3-5k... I like certain 'convenience' and 'technology' packages where it combines two or three like items and cuts down on individual costs of the said items, but $3k+ just so you can have a sunroof an a bunch of options/items you may not want/need? |
I understand it on some level as a cost cutting measure, but manufacturers are taking advantage of this big time.
| Quote, originally posted by Turbiodiesel! » | | ^ I know you think that sort of statement makes you cool, but small crossovers do have their uses - and depending on location and lifestyle, are more useful than both conventional cars and traditional SUVs. Or am I missing a vehicle type that can get you over a crappy dirt road to a trailhead full of camping gear while still returning 25-30mpg? |
Yeah, my Audi A4 Avant. Actually I do it all the time when I go mountain biking.
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Re: FV-QR (Turbiodiesel!) » | « » 7:05 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by Turbiodiesel! » | | ^ I know you think that sort of statement makes you cool, but small crossovers do have their uses - and depending on location and lifestyle, are more useful than both conventional cars and traditional SUVs. Or am I missing a vehicle type that can get you over a crappy dirt road to a trailhead full of camping gear while still returning 25-30mpg? | well you own an element so i would expect you to think like that but seriously, the thing is pointless and it's not a real "crossover" Go buy an audi allroad if that's what you want 
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Sure it's a real crossover - what's not real about it? And FYI, the allroad is not on sale and was an unreliable money pit when it was.
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Re: FV-QR (Turbiodiesel!) » | « » 7:09 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by Turbiodiesel! » | | Sure it's a real crossover - what's not real about it? | it's a mini-SUV that has very little if any off-road capability at all. Its form factor is not in the style of a true crossover, IMO.
| Quote » | | And FYI, the allroad is not on sale and was an unreliable money pit when it was. | I think myself and others would disagree with you, but  and there are other equally good crossovers on the market.the people buying this car though are doing it because they can't afford an ML, GL, or G, though, not because they need to get over a small puddle between the highway and their rural driveway
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besides, does that thing have 20s in the picture? ****ing rofl @ anyone trying to take that offroad. have fun.
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Re: (chucchinchilla) » | « » 7:10 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by chucchinchilla » | The bigger the Mercedes badge on the front, the more status searchers will buy. Unfortunately MBNA forgot these people don't have real money. |

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in fairness to MB, though, that is a good rate. I got +/- 2% on my T-reg at a time when MB was offering me like 8% on an ML
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Re: (HoyaDub) » | « » 7:12 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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The X3 has sold well--this car will too, provided that its priced properly.However, the consumer push back should put Audi on alert that the Q5 is too costly as configured. For people who want an upmarket Forester, this car is perfect.
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Re: FV-QR (HoyaDub) » | « » 7:13 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by HoyaDub » | it's a mini-SUV that has very little if any off-road capability at all. Its form factor is not in the style of a true crossover, IMO.
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And what's this about "form factor?" It's a small SUV-type vehicle built on the platform of a car, but with a raised suspension. How else is a crossover defined? | Quote, originally posted by HoyaDub » | I think myself and others would disagree with you, but 
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Oh. Ok. | Quote, originally posted by HoyaDub » | the people buying this car though are doing it because they can't afford an ML, GL, or G, though, not because they need to get over a small puddle between the highway and their rural driveway |
First GLK I ever saw was parked at the end of a 10-mile fire road at a local mountain-biking hangout. Anytime I read statements like "the people buying this car" or "SUV buyers" or whatever, I tend to start rolling my eyes, because sweeping generalizations suck.
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Re: FV-QR (Turbiodiesel!) » | « » 7:14 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by Turbiodiesel! » | | .. | really, stop sackriding it. i can post a picture of a taurus doing that under controlled conditions. not the point.
| Quote » | | First GLK I ever saw was parked at the end of a 10-mile fire road at a local mountain-biking hangout. | again, no big deal. it's A FIRE ROAD
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Re: (Moodyblues) » | « » 7:15 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by Moodyblues » | The X3 has sold well--this car will too, provided that its priced properly. For people who want an upmarket Forester, this car is perfect. | I agree. I still think the damn thing is pointless, though. Thanks for mentioning the Forester, though, that's a perfect example of what these people would buy if they weren't brand whoring.
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Re: (HoyaDub) » | « » 7:17 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by HoyaDub » | that car is fawking pointless. just like the Tiguan.
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How is the car pointless if people buy it? I'm not going to throw out sales numbers at this point, but just because *you* don't like it or *you* wouldn't buy it doesn't mean that it's pointless. TCL is not representative of the general buying public and is very narrow in its focus in thinking that a manual transmission, AWD wagon is the perfect utility vehicle for everyone, and how dare anyone think differently.
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Re: FV-QR (Turbiodiesel!) » | « » 7:20 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by Turbiodiesel! » | | And what's this about "form factor?" It's a small SUV-type vehicle built on the platform of a car, but with a raised suspension. How else is a crossover defined? |
So I just went outside with a tape measure and measured the ground clearance of my A4 Avant. A4 Avant Ground Clearance: 191mm GLK Ground Clearance: 201mm
Wow, so the GLK has a whopping .4" over my Avant. I'm sure it has better approach and departure angles, but my car can do most everything the GLK can w/o the hype and with better mpg. Point is, the GLK is hype and marketing. No thanks.
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Re: (JohnS54Coupe) » | « » 7:20 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by JohnS54Coupe » | How is the car pointless if people buy it? I'm not going to throw out sales numbers at this point, but just because *you* don't like it or *you* wouldn't buy it doesn't mean that it's pointless. TCL is not representative of the general buying public and is very narrow in its focus in thinking that a manual transmission, AWD wagon is the perfect utility vehicle for everyone, and how dare anyone think differently. | it exists solely to fill a need that doesn't exist. like someone else suggested, buy a forrester. the thing serves no useful purpose. 99.9999% of what that car is capable of can be done with a sedan or a garden variety subaru.
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Re: FV-QR (chucchinchilla) » | « » 7:21 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by chucchinchilla » | So I just went outside with a tape measure and measured the ground clearance of my A4 Avant. A4 Avant Ground Clearance: 191mm GLK Ground Clearance: 201mm
Wow, so the GLK has a whopping .4" over my Avant. I'm sure it has better approach and departure angles, but my car can do most everything the GLK can w/o the hype and with better mpg. |
you have excellent timing because i assumed the same thing in the post right below yours. thanks for the proof!
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Re: FV-QR (HoyaDub) » | « » 7:22 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by HoyaDub » | really, stop sackriding it. i can post a picture of a taurus doing that under controlled conditions. not the point. |
Oh, but it is the point, you just can't concede it. The GLK is actually incredibly capable offroad, and it was designed to be that way. It's not sackriding to point out that your assertion is flatly wrong. It's capable offroad. Full stop, end of story, stop waffling. I don't particularly like the GLK, but I'm love poking holes in lazy car-dweeb superiority complexes. Oh, and a Taurus? Get real. More evidence. Again, think whatever you like of the car, just don't try to tell me it doesn't have offroad chops. 
| Quote, originally posted by HoyaDub » | again, no big deal. it's A FIRE ROAD |
Do you....wait....nope, you've never driven a fire road. Ok. Again, you're claiming that the "people who buy this" would never drive on anything challenging. This was a road my Element barely made it up; your mythical Taurus would have left its oil pan behind. I'm demonstrating that your sweeping generalizations don't hold up. Stop making them. There are plenty of cogent criticisms of the GLK you could make, like, "you could buy a Forester for ten grand less" or "it's overpriced for what it is" or "the interior design sucks" or "it's got a snout like a platypus", but "pointless" and "not capable" are not gonna hold up.
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Re: FV-QR (chucchinchilla) » | « » 7:23 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by chucchinchilla » | So I just went outside with a tape measure and measured the ground clearance of my A4 Avant. |
Where?
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Re: FV-QR (Turbiodiesel!) » | « » 7:24 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by Turbiodiesel! » | Where? |
Outside? My flat and level driveway/parking area.
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Re: (HoyaDub) » | « » 7:25 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by HoyaDub » | | it exists solely to fill a need that doesn't exist. like someone else suggested, buy a forrester. the thing serves no useful purpose. 99.9999% of what that car is capable of can be done with a sedan or a garden variety subaru. |
There you go. That's a reasonable criticism - though the Subaru lacks some amenities, it's a better value and far less expensive.
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Re: FV-QR (chucchinchilla) » | « » 7:27 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by chucchinchilla » | Outside? My flat and level driveway/parking area. |
No, from what point on the structure to the ground. I could measure from the rocker panel and say my Vibe has 7.5 inches of ground clearance, but that doesn't really change the fact that the lowest point is a good inch and a half south of that.
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Re: (Turbiodiesel!) » | « » 7:31 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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In Europe these get a legitimate off road package option as well. Why they don't sell that option here...I've no idea!
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Re: FV-QR (Turbiodiesel!) » | « » 7:31 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by Turbiodiesel! » | Do you....wait....nope, you've never driven a fire road. Ok. | i was actually down one recently "by accident" (read: following outrageously incompetent nav guidance in a new development). Most of them aren't that bad... there's no point to clearing a road that's going to impassible during an emergency. i'll admit i was exaggerating a little, but compared to the former allroad/quattro and any mildly competent suv the GLK falls flat. and, like we've agreed, there's just no good reason to buy it besides brand whoring.
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That thing looks like it has pretty crappy suspension articulation to me. It can go "off-road" as well or better than most cute 'utes I guess. My trail rig is a Range Rover so I suppose I'm a bit jaded. All the debate about whether it is "pointless" or not aside, I think it is a nice gesture to issue refunds. Imagine how pleased you'd be to get a nice big check in the mail or see your payment drop. to MB
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Re: Re: (CombatNinja) » | « » 7:34 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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Fully optioned models in the US are running $50,000 FWIW.
Yes Martha, you can get your new 2010 Toyota 4Runner with a 4-cylinder. As long as it's 2WD. And as long as it's with an old 4-speed automatic.
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| Quote, originally posted by HoyaDub » | | I agree. I still think the damn thing is pointless, though. Thanks for mentioning the Forester, though, that's a perfect example of what these people would buy if they weren't brand whoring. |
One man's pointless rock is another man's diamond ring. People by what they want. I agree. In basic functionality, the car offers nothing over a Forester, and I would probably buy the forester given the choice. But if money were no object, I'd take the Mercedes--wouldn't you? Luxury goods, by definition, consist of attributes that you don't need. Hell, any car with more than 140hp or power windows has stuff you don't need. For some people, the extra $10k isn't a big deal, and they like the mercedes more. I do think the Forester and Mercedes offer the basic "snow road" competence that you would want if you lived, in say, Boston, and made the occassional ski run up to Vermont. I've driven those roads in a rear wheel drive Volvo wagon with nothing but good snow tires, which is all you need. But if I still lived there, a small 4wd SUV would work well for a combination of city dwelling and the occasional outing to snowed over roads, and the occasionally nasty muddy dirt road, this car would work well. It's not a Jeep, but I don't think the people buying it would fool themselves into thinking it is. Modified by Moodyblues at 4:36 PM 4-13-2009
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| Quote, originally posted by Moodyblues » | | I don't think the people buying it would fool themselves into thinking it is. | everything you said was rational until that sentence. I promise at least half of people buying that car are convinced they could weather a blizzard, floods, or sand dunes etc etc
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| Quote, originally posted by HoyaDub » | everything you said was rational until that sentence. I promise at least half of people buying that car are convinced they could weather a blizzard, floods, or sand dunes etc etc |
If you are going to troll TCL, at least do yourself a favor and read the basic brochure on a GLK. You'll be eating less crow that way.
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Re: (TigerinColorado) » | « » 7:41 PM 4-13-2009 | |
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| Quote, originally posted by TigerinColorado » | If you are going to troll TCL, at least do yourself a favor and read the basic brochure on a GLK. You'll be eating less crow that way. |
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