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dam son. I didnt even get to see this down there. If i had know all of that i definitely would have had taken more time out to talk to you when i met you. Straight tits man.

Im blown away.

Now come over my house and we can clean that bay up proper.


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can i haz clean bay too?

Nate, saw ur car up close and personal and even waved to ya'll
when ya'lled rolled in for the BBQ - DOPE ASS RIDE!



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In my opinion, this isnt even the most ridiculous thing about the car.


Congrats Anthony Anthony Anthony on the accomplishment. My mind was blown on Sunday when I actually got to take a good look at everything



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the car looked so great this weekend



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This car is amazing! I'm very inspired.




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Ballin

I got to see this project from the start to where it is today.

Afazz has dedicated pretty much all of his free time to this build the last couple of years. Anytime I needed to get in touch with him he was at the shop working on the Jetta.

I was one of the lucky ones who knew about this from the beginning. It was awesome to go see the Jetta every few weeks to see the progress.





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dunno if someone already said it or not but:

that vac box is whats used to open/close your A/c vents. When I pulled mine out they were stuck open and I couldnt close them. I stuck a bolt in the end of the vac line and I can open and shut them now.



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like i told you sunday night when i was asking you a million questions,, SICK

for someone that thinks like an engineer and not just a punk with a slammed ride

you said my set is in the mail right?



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no it's what holds vacuum so you can move the vents in low vacuum situations.

however it sounds like you left the line un-capped which would cause a vacuum leak.

very, very sick AFAZZ. i have been waiting so long to see what you were doing i nearly forgot!
definitely worth the wait. a true pioneer. you are one of the brave ones.



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no it's what holds vacuum so you can move the vents in low vacuum situations.

however it sounds like you left the line un-capped which would cause a vacuum leak.






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you're right i did at first, then i decided to stick a bolt in it to see if that would work and it did. now i just need to actually cap it so its not halfassed in there haha

but you essentially said what i did.....i just didnt know it was for low vac situations...but it still is used to control the vents



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hey i parked right next to you at h20...i didnt recognize it without the type e's, but your car looked good....i wasnt even aware all the time spent into it!



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waiting for part 3!!



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Nice, a tubbed Jetta. Well done.



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Impressive work.
The car looks amazing in person.




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Nice meeting you this weekend Anthony. This car blows my mind



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Anthony i already told ya 1000 times this weekend how amazing your work on this was.
So i'll just add that it rides great still, at an insane rolling height, which turns into an unbelievable parked height.

...but Tyler GOT THAT



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I GOT THAT! I GOT THAT! I GOT THAT! oh.
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you had to be there 09'. I've never seen rob so excited to see a car



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So much props man on all ur hard work and precision ur car looks amazing x1000000000 and ur a pa dood



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Impressive work.
The car looks amazing in person.


waagz you were there?

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you had to be there 09'. I've never seen rob so excited to see a car

i've never heard metal jay not say anything before.




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mmm...tubed front fenders...

btw, you have PM.



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i'm sure his instant message history page is huge right now.



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i've never heard metal jay not say anything before.

me, rob, jaron and jay were standing there when he rolled in friday night. i dont think anyone said anything for a solid couple of minutes.



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haha sunday night when he pulled in i figured he had been draggin the frame so often he wouldnt do it, but he did. glad to say i met this man.



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Dude.. wow.. just amazing.. and the best part.. its a LB6T!




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 Re: 4 struts, 17 inches, 2 switches: my built thread (Sandlock) »« »

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you had to be there 09'. I've never seen rob so excited to see a car

damn straight.
well worth the 2 years of sporadic IMs.
that car is more then inspiration; it's a template.



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January 17, 2009.
The plan changes. Drastically.

I test-fit the new shortened front struts, removed the rear shocks complete, and laid the car down.

The car was parked up on two 2x6's, then two 2x6's were placed under the frame. It laid out, with the front shocks bolted in place


Things were pretty bound up in the front, but it still laid. Tie rod notches and drivers side c-notch in order.

Here's a comparison of the old H&R Ultra Low with the new, shortened Koni.

Then the ugly truth comes out. The rear beam just isn't gonna cut it.

Forward tuck... not low enough... can't roll at this height... more metal must move. Lots of it.

Like all this metal. Permanently added to the "notgonnagobackin" pile.

Even some plastic made the chopping block!

And all this... bye bye!

Now with all that pesky crap out of the way, it's starting to look like a proper stance again!

The inner fenders would have to be tubbed also, but that's minor. Now what should I do with the suspension??

So I consulted my buddy Mitchell for his vehicle dimensions.

And had a front mk3 subframe laying around. Now I had seen this done before on a track prepped corrado in the Suspension tuning forums. One blurry pic and a few measurements were enough to convince me it was possible. On to some test fits!


Hey that frame rail is pretty close to the mounting point... this could work!

It looks pretty good under there!


So here is the master plan, drawn quite well with CAD. Or a pen on a dirty piece of paper.

Left is toward the front, right is toward the rear. The area just above the left side of the drawing (forward mounting ponits) is just below the seat crossmember. This is where the rear seatbelts bolt in, and is a heavy structural section of the car. This is one of the strongest places in the unibody, making it well suited for the loads of a suspension. The rear mounting points are right below the frame rails. Plating will be added and mounts will be made, with some tubular bracing into the existing structures.

Now most of the mid-engine IRS setups use the subframe mounted in the stock orientation, with the pancake bushing toward the rear and the tie rod behind the rear axle centerline. This is nice for motor packaging, but reversing the subframe allows it to integrate much better into the strongest parts of the unibody. Since I won't have a motor back there, I plan to reverse it. The frame rails just below the rear arches are super strong, the seat crossmember is already very well reinforced, and the stock beam mounts are right there and available to have braces welded in the area. It's almost like it was supposed to fit there!

Dinnertime, more updates later


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Soon more people will realize that this is how rear wheels should fit.





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brilliant man



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built threads > build threads.



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Jan 31, 2009

The rear fender cutting begins. I knew early on the corner of the door would be the holdup, I wanted to be sure that wouldn't keep me from getting max low.

At this point I realize how ridiculous this has become. The rubber studs that hold the clip-in rear molding section will need to be moved, since they will hit the tire

After the trimming, the wheel could still tuck but could be brought out much closer to the fender, with much less camber too.

I started stripping the trunk sound deadener where I would need to cut out the floor, to make the cuts cleaner and make cleaning and welding easier later down the road

I stripped the undercoating from some key areas below the floor where the subframe would mount

here's a bottom view of the new clean slate!

Feb 3, 2009. Floor is gone.

I took out the subframe and took some measurements from it, comparing them against my Mitchell book.


Feb 4 '09,
I begin taking measurements for the rear axle centerline. I used two methods and compared them. The first was to trace the steel arch on the unibody, then use geometry to find the center of the circle, assuming it was a perfect circle

Then I stretched a string, level with the bottom of the doors, to the rear bumper. I found the center of the opening

When comparing the two, they were almost identical, so I could use either as a way to center my subframe.

The black dot on the string is the centerline using method #2, the intersecting lines drawn on the paper are using method #1.

Feb 9 '09,
I marked the centerline onto the frame rails, then used my previous measurements to determine roughly where the subframe mounts would weld, and cut out the pinch weld in that area.

Then I welded the two panels together and ground it smooth, since the area would be plated and then re-welded again.

I did the passenger side too


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Feb 13, '09
I plated the bottom sides of both frame rails in preparation for the new subframe mounts. 1/8" HR steel pate, 1020 steel. MIG welded (just tacked at this point).

Then I made the rearward mounting points for the subframe from 3/16" steel plate, with a 14mm hole drilled through. The stock holes are 15mm with 12mm bolts for plenty of alignment slop, I will be doing all my welding using 14mm bolts in 14mm holes to minimize any distortion.

Here they are mounted to the subframe

It fit nicely into the plated section

You can see the pink strings I used to cetner everything up, which were suspended on jackstands and dozens of careful measurements were taken.

I mounted a strut into the stock upper mounts, and threw on a wheel

Now this is where things get interesting.

With the axle centerline placed directly on the arch centerline, within 1/16" accuracy, the wheel looked too far back. After some confused thinking, there are many optical illusions at play here. I will need to call in reinforcements here.

In the meantime, I decided to build a new rack since I won't need steering in the rear.

Feb 15, 2009
I removed the rack gear from a stock rack, and welded it up on spacers to bolt to the stock rack location.


Don't worry, those were reinforced later. This was just to get everything in place without the bulky rack in my way.

I also did some more stripping under the rear seats so I could weld on the bottom side without contaminating the weld.


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