Arsigi
Member

Offline
Member Since
10-1-2003
32978 posts
Weimar Republic USA
'96 GTI 2.0, '00 Golf GLS 1.8T
|
I can't believe that is a _________ . | « » 12:33 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
I noticed a 90's Buick Riviera on the road the other day, and I remembered how when the car first debuted I said on more than one occasion, "I can't believe that is a Buick". Yeah, I know, it looks rather bland now, but at the time it was a pretty striking vehicle, and definitely out of the norm as far as other Buicks of that era. So, I thought it might make for an interesting thread, if others have had similar reactions to other cars.
Yeah, yeah, I can see the Panameras and Cayennes coming over the horizon already.
Ron a.k.a. Arsigi - Spokane's Most Posted BPCDubs» | A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.
|
PsyberVW
Moderator
Offline
Member Since
7-10-2000
14305 posts
San Diego Ca
Too Many
|
Re: I can't believe that is a _________ . (Arsigi) » | « » 12:37 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
I had a co-worker with one of these new and I thought it was a great car at the time
Myspace
|
reillymk2
Member

Offline
Member Since
10-17-2001
2474 posts
san diego california
525i Bmw, porsche 924.
|
Re: I can't believe that is a _________ . (Arsigi) » | « » 12:37 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
I can honestly say that I think that buick is one of the low points in american carmaking.
| Quote, originally posted by Kessler » | | Squirrels hate cats, so stuff dead cats in your engine. |
|
nopal 6.0
Member

Offline
Member Since
2-23-2007
2651 posts
Yonkers NY
|
Re: I can't believe that is a _________ . (Arsigi) » | « » 12:39 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
I almost crashed the first time I saw one of these, my wife also said a few times if that was a Saturn.
05' Pontiac GTO | 06' Lexus IS250 AWD | 98' Jeep Cherooke| Quote, originally posted by GahannaKid » | Only at TCL could this happen, we are collectively the single smartest dumb group on the internet
|
|
vwlarry
Member.

Online
Member Since
2-16-1999
25734 posts
Chicken Dung City Delanowhere
The finance company owns my car. If I survive, I will own it in 2011. I don't "own" anything.
|
Re: I can't believe that is a _________ . (reillymk2) » | « » 12:40 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
| Quote, originally posted by reillymk2 » | I can honestly say that I think that buick is one of the low points in american carmaking. |
I can honestly say that I would debate you that statement until you cried and begged for a merciful hammer-blow to the skull.
Please read my first published article in the February 2010 Chevy Enthusiast magazine (page 37; "Zora Arkus-Duntov And Five Easy Corvettes"). Link: http://www.amosautomotive.com/ Thanx!“To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.” - St. Thomas Aquinas
|
pontiac
Member

Offline
Member Since
8-3-2009
767 posts
New Glasgow, Nova Scotia
Two Arrowheads and a Bowtie.
|
FV-QR » | « » 12:42 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|


| Quote, originally posted by MRVW01 » | | I had sex in my A4. Do you know how hard it is for 2 guys to have sex in an Audi? |
| Quote, originally posted by Subwoofers » | I would rather set my cloth on fire and run up and down the street bleeding from my ass then buy another VW. |
|
Bird
Member
Offline
Member Since
1-31-2008
11169 posts
WA
2004 VW GTI VR6
|
FV-QR » | « » 12:43 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
 nope, I'm not kidding! I liked the Fiero the same as Tyler loves 80's music!  I was over it after a year though
Modified by Bird at 9:46 AM 11-20-2009
BPCDubs»--Now with improved Cloaking Device Tourniquet of gossip on a board of checkered chess; salt ring probing in case of emergency - ATDI MKIV STUFF - BUY IT NOW!
|
Hai2u
Member
Offline
Member Since
10-26-2009
158 posts
Somewhere In
|
Re: I can't believe that is a _________ . (reillymk2) » | « » 12:44 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
| Quote, originally posted by reillymk2 » | I can honestly say that I think that buick is one of the low points in american carmaking. |
|
Amsterdam087
Member
Offline
Member Since
12-31-2007
12101 posts
In a shopping cart behind the dumpster
|
Re: I can't believe that is a _________ . (reillymk2) » | « » 12:44 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
| Quote, originally posted by reillymk2 » | I can honestly say that I think that buick is one of the low points in american carmaking. |
you are so right!
the early nineties version of the chevy nova was the pinnacle automobile industry
DeathFromAbove
|
rpmk4
Member
Offline
Member Since
1-24-2008
2330 posts
Plainfield IN
1993 Mustang GT, 1996 Ranger
|
Re: I can't believe that is a _________ . (reillymk2) » | « » 12:45 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
| Quote, originally posted by reillymk2 » | I can honestly say that I think that buick is one of the low points in american carmaking. |
wat?
|
Bird
Member
Offline
Member Since
1-31-2008
11169 posts
WA
2004 VW GTI VR6
|
FV-QR » | « » 12:48 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
| Quote, originally posted by pontiac » | other fiero pic
|
haha!! same wavelength
BPCDubs»--Now with improved Cloaking Device Tourniquet of gossip on a board of checkered chess; salt ring probing in case of emergency - ATDI MKIV STUFF - BUY IT NOW!
|
Amsterdam087
Member
Offline
Member Since
12-31-2007
12101 posts
In a shopping cart behind the dumpster
|
Re: I can't believe that is a _________ . (rpmk4) » | « » 12:48 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
didn't buik just rescently beat out lexus as the most reliable cars on the road?
DeathFromAbove
|
The_Sauce
Member

Offline
Member Since
4-21-2003
7037 posts
Seattle Wa
Yesteryear Low
|
Re: I can't believe that is a _________ . (Amsterdam087) » | « » 12:53 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
| Quote, originally posted by Amsterdam087 » | | didn't buik just rescently beat out lexus as the most reliable cars on the road? |
Nope, Jaguar just did though.
There will always be somebody driving something better... Just dont park next to that guy.
|
Air and water do mix
Member

Offline
Member Since
8-5-2004
6389 posts
Southern IN
'59 Beetle, '66 Hotrod Bug and an '08 Fit.
|
Re: I can't believe that is a _________ . (Amsterdam087) » | « » 12:56 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
In the late '50s and early '60s, the Karmann Ghia was always assumed to be anything other than a VW. If one didn't know, they never assumed it was. People would usually guess Italian, which the styling certainly is! VW even had ads that said as much. "Karmann Ghia, the VW in an Italian smoking jacket"! There were others as well. They even made a 'debut' 8 years or so after they came onto the market.
Modified by Air and water do mix at 3:11 PM 11-20-2009
| Quote, originally posted by Burnin8r » | | thumbs down (to wooden steering wheels) unless its a car that you drive while wearing a leather helmet + goggles while yelling "tally ho, chocks away!" |
| Quote, originally posted by patrikman » | | A restoration to me is some sort of exorcism/brainwash for a car. /rant. |
|
leaftye
Member
Offline
Member Since
12-31-2005
11309 posts
Bermuda Triangle
1998 Chevrolet Corvette
|
FV-QR » | « » 12:56 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
I thought that Riviera was even more stunning up close.
Modified by leaftye at 9:58 AM 11-20-2009
Eugene Leafty Fungi produce 13% of all the CO2 in the atmosphere, my motorcycle produces over 100 gallons of H2O per year.Vote for energy reform, not just discussions. Bill Richardson for President Want a Google Wave invite?
|
Danza.
Member
Offline
Member Since
4-6-2008
2272 posts
Mary is a Saint MD
mk3
|
Re: I can't believe that is a _________ . (The_Sauce) » | « » 12:57 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
hyundai genesis sedanoldsmobile aurora?
8380 Labs FS: Zender Turbos
|
Kar98
Member

Offline
Member Since
4-20-2002
4832 posts
Longview TX
1928 Mauser Touring Sedan
|
» | « » 12:58 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|

| Quote, originally posted by PassSedanGLX » | I MUST GOES FASTAR I AREZ IMPORTENTZ EVERBUDDY OWT OF MY LANE OH **** SPEDE CAMARA BRAKEZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
|
Kar98
Member

Offline
Member Since
4-20-2002
4832 posts
Longview TX
1928 Mauser Touring Sedan
|
» | « » 1:00 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|

| Quote, originally posted by PassSedanGLX » | I MUST GOES FASTAR I AREZ IMPORTENTZ EVERBUDDY OWT OF MY LANE OH **** SPEDE CAMARA BRAKEZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
|
Arsigi
Member

Offline
Member Since
10-1-2003
32978 posts
Weimar Republic USA
'96 GTI 2.0, '00 Golf GLS 1.8T
|
Re: (Kar98) » | « » 1:02 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
| Quote, originally posted by Kar98 » |  |
Whoa - never seen that before. What is it called?
Ron a.k.a. Arsigi - Spokane's Most Posted BPCDubs» | A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.
|
leaftye
Member
Offline
Member Since
12-31-2005
11309 posts
Bermuda Triangle
1998 Chevrolet Corvette
|
FV-QR » | « » 1:04 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
Eugene Leafty Fungi produce 13% of all the CO2 in the atmosphere, my motorcycle produces over 100 gallons of H2O per year.Vote for energy reform, not just discussions. Bill Richardson for President Want a Google Wave invite?
|
audisnapr
Member

Offline
Member Since
7-31-2004
1249 posts
NJ
2000 Audi A4 Avant 1.8TQM - 90 G60 with VR swap - 2001 Saab 9-5 Aero
|
» | « » 1:05 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|

Modified by audisnapr at 1:06 PM 11-20-2009
| Quote, originally posted by marked001 » | | much like raikonnen had to drive accordingly b/c of his problem. i drove accordingly. i have those skills |
http://www.herbys53store.com :: My Rado Build :: My Website :: My Gallery
|
Kar98
Member

Offline
Member Since
4-20-2002
4832 posts
Longview TX
1928 Mauser Touring Sedan
|
Re: (Arsigi) » | « » 1:05 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
| Quote, originally posted by Arsigi » | Whoa - never seen that before. What is it called? |
The Vixen Recreational Vehicle, designed by Bill Collins, was built from 1986 until 1989. A total of 578 Vixen motorhomes of three different types were built: the Vixen 21 TD (1986-1987), Vixen 21 SE (1988-1989), and Vixen 21 XC (1986-1987).
| Quote, originally posted by PassSedanGLX » | I MUST GOES FASTAR I AREZ IMPORTENTZ EVERBUDDY OWT OF MY LANE OH **** SPEDE CAMARA BRAKEZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
|
Swallow Doretti
Member.
Offline
Member Since
9-10-1999
25675 posts
2006 Honda Accord EX V6
|
Re: I can't believe that is a _________ . (vwlarry) » | « » 1:15 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
| Quote, originally posted by vwlarry » | | I can honestly say that I would debate you that statement until you cried and begged for a merciful hammer-blow to the skull. |
I'm sorry Larry, but I know someone who has had three of them, and based on the lack of quality, I'm going to have to disagree. These cars are notorious for being driven by their owners until the doors fall off...which usually happens around 100,000 miles. Really, how many cars built in the last 30 years have the doors literally fall off at around 100K?
"Everyone knows that the Car Lounge Car of the Year is the E36 M3, the answer to all transportation problems. Need to haul a family of 8 - M3! Tow a boat trailer - M3! Have only $15k to spend and want a Japanese car - M3!" -- Tom
|
Arsigi
Member

Offline
Member Since
10-1-2003
32978 posts
Weimar Republic USA
'96 GTI 2.0, '00 Golf GLS 1.8T
|
Re: I can't believe that is a _________ . (Swallow Doretti) » | « » 1:18 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
| Quote, originally posted by Swallow Doretti » | | Really, how many cars built in the last 30 years have the doors literally fall off at around 100K? |
Ron a.k.a. Arsigi - Spokane's Most Posted BPCDubs» | A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.
|
vwlarry
Member.

Online
Member Since
2-16-1999
25734 posts
Chicken Dung City Delanowhere
The finance company owns my car. If I survive, I will own it in 2011. I don't "own" anything.
|
Re: I can't believe that is a _________ . (Swallow Doretti) » | « » 1:24 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
| Quote, originally posted by Swallow Doretti » | I'm sorry Larry, but I know someone who has had three of them, and based on the lack of quality, I'm going to have to disagree. These cars are notorious for being driven by their owners until the doors fall off...which usually happens around 100,000 miles. Really, how many cars built in the last 30 years have the doors literally fall off at around 100K? |
I'll see your three, and raise you another 3. My folks had 2 Buicks that went far past the 100K figure, as well as my wife's '92 Ultra. They were 3 of the most trouble-free, well-constructed automobiles I've seen. Touché! BTW, all the doors remained attached securely to the bodies at all times.
Please read my first published article in the February 2010 Chevy Enthusiast magazine (page 37; "Zora Arkus-Duntov And Five Easy Corvettes"). Link: http://www.amosautomotive.com/ Thanx!“To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.” - St. Thomas Aquinas
|
Swallow Doretti
Member.
Offline
Member Since
9-10-1999
25675 posts
2006 Honda Accord EX V6
|
Re: I can't believe that is a _________ . (vwlarry) » | « » 1:44 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
| Quote, originally posted by vwlarry » | | I'll see your three, and raise you another 3. My folks had 2 Buicks that went far past the 100K figure, as well as my wife's '92 Ultra. They were 3 of the most trouble-free, well-constructed automobiles I've seen. |
Buicks, or Buick Rivieras? Because the last Riv (and its lone platform-mate, the Oldsmobile Aurora) was not a quality piece. And I'm not getting into the driving experience here on those cars, either, which was uniformly terrible.
"Everyone knows that the Car Lounge Car of the Year is the E36 M3, the answer to all transportation problems. Need to haul a family of 8 - M3! Tow a boat trailer - M3! Have only $15k to spend and want a Japanese car - M3!" -- Tom
|
Wellington P Funk
Member
Offline
Member Since
9-12-2005
6402 posts
Clarks Summit PA
2002 Jeep Liberty
|
» | « » 1:46 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
These things came out right around the time I became cognizant of cars, and I still have trouble believing they were built.
The whole notion is mind-boggling: a compact pickup truck with street-tuned suspension, AWD, a severely under-rated turbo V6, and the thrust to dust Ferrari's? From General Motors?! The whole turbo era at GM (Buick Regal GNX, Firebird Turbo, Syclone/Typhoon, and even oddballs like the turbo Monte Carlo) seems so hilariously incongruous with the Celebrities and Silverados that we associate with that era today. Truth stranger than fiction.
***BUY MY JEEP WRANGLER FOR $2,000!!!*** It's a one-way ticket to 4.0L Jeep nirvana!
|
turkey_club
Member

Offline
Member Since
4-8-2009
487 posts
Atlanta GA
1997 Buick Regal GS, 1993 Ford Probe GT
|
Re: I can't believe that is a _________ . (Swallow Doretti) » | « » 1:53 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
well you said Buick not Buick Riviera yourself. So what do you really mean. Most people here are going to disagree with your research-free statement based on isolated cases and made up facts.
| Quote, originally posted by mikeypoo » | | So I set the cruise control to floor mat and... | 1997 Buick Regal GS - Daily 1993 Ford Probe GT - Project I suppose
|
Amsterdam087
Member
Offline
Member Since
12-31-2007
12101 posts
In a shopping cart behind the dumpster
|
Re: (Wellington P Funk) » | « » 1:55 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
| Quote, originally posted by Wellington P Funk » | | These things came out right around the time I became cognizant of cars, and I still have trouble believing they were built. The whole notion is mind-boggling: a compact pickup truck with street-tuned suspension, AWD, a severely under-rated turbo V6, and the thrust to dust Ferrari's? From General Motors?! The whole turbo era at GM (Buick Regal GNX, Firebird Turbo, Syclone/Typhoon, and even oddballs like the turbo Monte Carlo) seems so hilariously incongruous with the Celebrities and Silverados that we associate with that era today. Truth stranger than fiction. |
DeathFromAbove
|
Swallow Doretti
Member.
Offline
Member Since
9-10-1999
25675 posts
2006 Honda Accord EX V6
|
Re: I can't believe that is a _________ . (turkey_club) » | « » 1:58 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
| Quote, originally posted by turkey_club » | well you said Buick not Buick Riviera yourself. So what do you really mean. Most people here are going to disagree with your research-free statement based on isolated cases and made up facts. |
Reading! You should try it some time before posting. First off, I didn't say anything--reillymk2 did: | Quote, originally posted by reillymk2 » | | I can honestly say that I think that buick is one of the low points in american carmaking. |
Secondly, if you read his particular statement, he was clear referencing the Riviera: | Quote, originally posted by reillymk2 » | | I can honestly say that I think that buick is one of the low points in american carmaking. |
The second that is referring to the car in the subject of the OP, AKA, the Riviera. Finally, pull up any old Consumer Reports showing the reliability rankings of Rivieras, then try to tell me its reliable. Go ahead, I'll wait. Oh, and don't give me some bullsh!t argument that CR is "biased" just because you don't like the data.
"Everyone knows that the Car Lounge Car of the Year is the E36 M3, the answer to all transportation problems. Need to haul a family of 8 - M3! Tow a boat trailer - M3! Have only $15k to spend and want a Japanese car - M3!" -- Tom
|
onebadbug
Member

Offline
Member Since
12-21-2002
3214 posts
ohio
82 Rabbit Pickup, 94 Toyota SR-5, always looking for the next one
|
Re: I can't believe that is a _________ . (reillymk2) » | « » 1:59 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
| Quote, originally posted by reillymk2 » | I can honestly say that I think that buick is one of the low points in american carmaking. |
This could be read as either: I can honestly say that I think that particular buick (the Riviera) is one of the low points in american carmaking. or: I can honestly say that I think that buick (the company) is one of the low points in american carmaking. Either way, I bet there were many people that looked at that Riviera and thought, " I can't believe that is a Buick!" I personally love the looks of that car from every angle except directly from the rear.
Modified by onebadbug at 2:01 PM 11-20-2009
| Quote, originally posted by Blonde Guy » | | That's a minivan with a 1.3 L motor? Why can't we buy one of those here? Why are we so far behind China technologically? |
ban OneBadBug!
|
JtotheG
Member

Offline
Member Since
1-7-2009
565 posts
Huntington Beach CA
The Uberbird
|
Re: I can't believe that is a _________ . (onebadbug) » | « » 2:12 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
| Quote, originally posted by onebadbug » | This could be read as either: I can honestly say that I think that particular buick (the Riviera) is one of the low points in american carmaking. or: I can honestly say that I think that buick (the company) is one of the low points in american carmaking. Either way, I bet there were many people that looked at that Riviera and thought, " I can't believe that is a Buick!" I personally love the looks of that car from every angle except directly from the rear. Modified by onebadbug at 2:01 PM 11-20-2009
|
You just went all AutoTrader Latino on his ass... Paso Doble!
Macho Business Donkey WrestlerNADAguides Garage-blog HOONIVERSE
|
patrikman
Member

Offline
Member Since
5-10-2008
13726 posts
Titletown Wiscompton
2010 Therizinosaur 88
|
Re: I can't believe that is a _________ . (reillymk2) » | « » 2:29 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
| Quote, originally posted by reillymk2 » | I can honestly say that I think that buick is one of the low points in american carmaking. |
AWESOME MIATA DRIVING VIDEO!!!! Welderdoosh
|
Das Borgen
Member

Offline
Member Since
9-10-2008
5289 posts
Columbus Ohio
motorcycle, car
|
FV-QR » | « » 2:29 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
| Quote, originally posted by hi_centered » | | I have a 12v VR, and i have 4 valve stems on my wheels.. guess that makes it a 16v |
|
FastGTi
Member

Offline
Member Since
2-16-1999
7065 posts
Reston VA
09R56JCW
|
FV-QR » | « » 2:49 PM 11-20-2009 | |
|
|