because i wanted to lower it more then i could with regular springs.

Truth.

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I'm pretty sure placing a US plate on top of a Euro one causes a pair of designer sunglasses to appear out of thin air.

Does that make you cool?

I guarantee most of you have never even been in a car that was on Raceland coilovers. I just installed a set into a friends mark 3 Jetta. They ride fine. For the price and application you really cant beat it. The quality seems great. If you aren't going to be tracking the car, why buy the most expensive suspension? Try them before you knock them.

Unfortunatly, I don't think they make them for b5 Passats yet. Hopefully they do eventually so I cant get my brother a set.

Modified by We Dubbin' at 11:46 PM 11-21-2009

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That's not dumb if that's what he wants to do. (Let's remember here, nm+, it is his car) Dumb would be him doing what you would do.

I pay extra for quality.

How long do you think the Raceland coils will last? Versus something from a known company like H&R?

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They have a 2 or 3 year warranty. If something happens, you send it back, and they replace it. Not too difficult. Not hating on h&r or any other company (I have b&g's on my mark5 rabbit), but for the price, you really cant beat it.

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for $250/set.. i'm not going to lose much sleep if/when they fail. I know exactly what i'm buying.. and why i'm buying it. I have no pretense of them being uber-quality-high-end-super-look-at-me coilovers. I just wanted to go super low with a decent ride at a cheap price. If i manage to get 2-3 years out of them, then they will have already gone above my expectations.

i don't need to brag about them, i don't need to them to save me 10 seconds during a race, i don't even want to worry about them if for some reason my car gets stolen.

Sometimes, quality parts are a necessity. And sometimes.. they aren't.

Couldn't agree more with this.

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That sounds stupid.

Lawyer huh? lets hope you don't use that kind of reasoning in the real world. But short stupid comments are a way to get a high post count.

Cheap parts are fine as long as you don't expect them to perform like their expensive counterparts.

Modified by theguyfaraway at 12:18 AM 11-22-2009

This forum is hilarious.

"dont you DARE run cheap coils that IVE NEVER USED AND HAVE NO EXPERIENCE WITH!"

I love how the car lounge is chock-full of race car drivers.

Want your car drawn?|| ]Buy my mk2 Hella Ecode Aeros!!

Wow- that's cheap!

(checks their website to see what they make them for)

Ok, that makes sense. They sell them for the street stance crowd.

Not that I am above that... just sayin.

Freudian slip?

Quote, originally posted by We Dubbin’ »

They have a 2 or 3 year warranty. If something happens, you send it back, and they replace it. Not too difficult.

Difficult? No. But it really is kind of a big inconvenience. Either the car's out of commission while you wait for the replacements, or you have to put your original parts back on. Even if you can do the work yourself, it's still time wasted (I enjoy tinkering with cars, I don't enjoy removing defective parts that I just installed) and you'll have to get an alignment. And then do it all again when you get the parts back.

Not that I'm saying they must be terrible or anything, I'm not going to speculate about the quality of a product I don't have, or desire, any experience with. But saying possibly-cheaply-made parts are ok because they have a warranty and the job isn't complicated to do doesn't mean that it can't be a huge inconvenience.

They are produced by one of the largest suspension companies worldwide, sold under different brands and price points.

They are by no means cheaply made. Inexpensive, yes.

Want your car drawn?|| ]Buy my mk2 Hella Ecode Aeros!!

That's why I said "possibly-cheaply made". Like I'd mentioned, I wasn't speculating about the quality of the products, just pointing out that a replacement warranty doesn't necessarily trump all concerns if they hypothetically were cheaply made and failed - which is what had been suggested.

Okay so lets say you install a $1200 set of coilovers and one of your shocks blows out because it was defective from the factory. (and yes, it happens all the time) Is it really any different from having a shock blow out on a less expensive coilover set up? Plain and simple, it's not. The same goes for any parts really. Yes, things do happen, but atleast they have a decent warranty to cover their products. Everything can be an inconvenience, but it does happen. And not just on cheaper parts.

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p***ies

its his car, let him run what he wants. unless u have experience using product A, product B is better only because ure a douche who thinks money improves everything

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Because most Americans raise goats at home.

when you buy them and send the money it even goes to a raceland account

rokkor are the new raceland

They will probably make a practice of changing company names and licenses so they don't have to honor the warranties of their low quality parts.

interesting theory.... in an attempt to "get their name out there" the are offering a 3 year manufacturers warranty with the limited number of sets they are selling on ebay. once those are gone (i think there were 5 left this morning) i don't know where people will get their cheap coilovers anymore

Right, yes, the inconvenience would be the same regardless, and anything's possible. But let me try and clarify this. If we're talking about parts that are hypothetically lower quality, and thus more prone to and likely to fail, the risk of having to do all the work over again is greater.

Again, I'm not necessarily saying Racelands are low quality. Not picking sides there. But the implication behind your statement had been "it doesn't matter if they are more likely to fail, because they can be replaced under warranty".

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its his car, let him run what he wants. unless u have experience using product A, product B is better only because ure a douche who thinks money improves everything

While there may be plenty of products out there who've got jacked up prices, there's also truth to the idea that there's a threshold where you start sacrificing in quality/materials to achieve a much-lower-than-average cost. Again, I'm not going to go out on a limb and say this applies to Raceland, but it's equally naive to think that cost doesn't have anything to do with quality or performance, either. There can always be a few bad-but-overpriced parts, but there's also usually not a lot of very-good-but-extremely-inexpensive parts either... and that can apply to just about anything.

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