For the rear,
VW Fox (any)
A2 is pretty close.

so, basically, you can get Bilstien sports for an A2 rear and an Audi 80/4000 for the front and should be good to go.

Modified by HiJinx at 11:58 AM 8-18-2003

Just some research bro. Have I EVER steered yall wrong?

4000/80/90/CGT/UrQ/CQ(yes, they're all the same) front struts and A2/Corrado rear shocks are on my car. They're identical to the OEM Fox pieces. The A2 shocks are a little longer at the top, but the threads end at the same point on the body of the shock rod; there's more thread sticking out above the top nut.

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....and at the risk of getting flogged one more question:

Can someone please explain a bit clearer what is needed to make the G60 springs work in the rear? There hasn't been a clear explanation of this as of yet as far as I know.

'87 Fox Coupe
2.0L ABA, Port-matched big valve head, Full Techtonics exhaust, TT 268 & adj. cam gear, big bore TB, 16v Brakes w/Carbotech Bobcats, SS braided lines, Quantum booster & 22mm MC, Lowering springs, Bilstein Sports, PSA 5spd trans

Quote, originally posted by a1junkie »

Someone had posted that if you use A2 springs on the rear, you HAVE to use A2 shox - something about spring diameter - is that true?

No, I have A3 springs on the rear of my car right now. They don't fit in the upper perch well but just jam them up there. I have been running this setup for 5 years with no problems.

All the same. Audi wasn't big on changing their front suspensions as their platforms progressed. It caused problems as the cars got heavier; the struts and mounts that had been so wonderful on the 2200lb 4000 suddenly didn't work so well on the 3000lb 90. Adding a V6 in the B4 platform didn't help matters, either.

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I must admit this is some useful info but can you include the model year of the cars above. Also, for "HIGH PERFORMANCE" will I need to replace my springs also or will the above parts fit with the stock Fox springs.

Without any cutting.... which other springs will fit in the FOX???

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I wish somebody would try these with stock type shocks/struts just to curb my curiosity.

'87 Fox Coupe
2.0L ABA, Port-matched big valve head, Full Techtonics exhaust, TT 268 & adj. cam gear, big bore TB, 16v Brakes w/Carbotech Bobcats, SS braided lines, Quantum booster & 22mm MC, Lowering springs, Bilstein Sports, PSA 5spd trans

Audi didn't change their suspension very much over the years, so any year will do if buying struts. As for the springs, they all fit, but they did come in different rates etc due to the loaded V6 being heavier than the budget 4 cyl.

Without cutting which springs will fit ? again, this is in the FAQs, any of the cars lifted above. A2 is again pretty close. A3 is also close.

Replacing your springs for HI-PO ? Yes, they will most likely be old, worn and saggy.. plus they won't lower your ride height at all, so body roll in corners and boating under acceleration will not be addressed by just changing the struts. Best to do both at the same time, although you can definately use old springs with new struts - the opposite, new lowering springs w/ old struts, will quickly give terrible handling / ride though.

Modified by the brit at 4:46 PM 2-11-2004

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but im trying, ringo, im trying real hard to be the shepard

93 wolfsburg fox 2 dr tornado red
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As far as struts go, they're all the same. Direct fit for the Fox.

It's in the FAQ.

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but im trying, ringo, im trying real hard to be the shepard

93 wolfsburg fox 2 dr tornado red
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I'm desperate right now. I must finish a show worhty fox in 2 weeks so chopping springs w/new struts are what I view in my future.

While I wait for developments in Fox Tunning.

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97 PW Jetta GT 2.0t

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if u use a aftermarket lowering spring with a stock shock you are in for a surprise real soon. the stock spring is taller then the lowering spring so the stock shock will be to tall. in other words when u have it on your car you will blow out your stock shocks in less them 5 months because they are getting compressed a LOAD more. if u check with any aftermarket spring manufacturer(neuspeed,eibac,h&r...) they will tell you to go get a set of shocks that were meant for a lowering spring.

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I already have the lowering springs and stock struts - about to get new shocks put on soon (once I get the money) so I'll letcha know if the 'lowering spring/stock shock/strut' theory is true about them prematuring as early as 4-5 months into their installation by checking about w/ everyone by the end of the summer to see is theres any real change in feeling

'87 Fox Coupe
2.0L ABA, Port-matched big valve head, Full Techtonics exhaust, TT 268 & adj. cam gear, big bore TB, 16v Brakes w/Carbotech Bobcats, SS braided lines, Quantum booster & 22mm MC, Lowering springs, Bilstein Sports, PSA 5spd trans

87 Wagon

161-FV535L Weitec Corrado 60/60 springs
075-B360656 Bils Sport GJ2/G60 rear shocks
075-P303006 Bils Sport Audi 90/4K front struts
ZBA 412351 Fox strut bearings

Part #'s from my Rapid parts receipt, Total Before tax $641.65
No shipping as I picked the parts up.

In addition I had to purchase rear "hardware"
Dust sleeve, etc. Don't have part #'s on that, I believe we went with the "kit" for an A2 Jetta.

Driving impression.
Very firm, not very forgiving. At first I wondered did I make the right choice? But dame can it handle, not even fair to compare it to the 16 year old stock garbage that got ripped out. After driving on it for ~6 months, me likey

Would I do it again? probably, maybe would go with coils due to the poor plowing job on my local streets creating a bit of an exhaust issue. It would be nice to raise it up for the winter months.

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Front

Todd


Modified by tornadoredcabby at 4:34 AM 3-25-2004

'Nutz even has went so far as to do technical drawings, with actual dimensioning of the differences.

Just to lay it straight: the info is out there. Like some of these guys know:

1) 16V? Yep, and pics to prove again. Like in the early 90's.

2) Turbo? The company 8VTurbo and DCI Fox can tell you about that.

3) Who else remembers a lady named Heather, who along with 'Nutz, pretty much started this internet Fox forum thingy??

4) And her 15 inch Fox wheels?

How do people come up with this stuff? Too much time, maybe a knowledge of other VW's, stuff like that.

Just wanted to pass that info on.

They're somewhere on this side of the pond
Oh, to find those on a junkyard Fox

Smilies thrown in just for you LP, because I know how much you like them.

Mine came w/o mounts, and the old ones were spot-welded onto the old housings.

I drilled the welds and sized them down to fit the smaller-diameter KYB GR2 tube (that's Polite for, "I beat the hell out of them with a hammer until they fit"), but I'm not psyched about the prospect of trusting my life to ghetto mounts.

So now I'm surfing around in search of factory A2 mounts. Just thought those doing the upgrade might want to be forewarned.