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    1. 12-10-2004 08:36 PM #1
      By Dan Neil, Times Staff Writer
      At a time of general excellence in automotive design and construction, when even cheap cars so easily vault buyer expectations, it is a rare and perverse pleasure to find a car as certifiably doggy as the Mercury Montego.
      A car whose lack of charisma is so dense no light can escape its surface, the Montego is the Mercury Division's upscale twin to the Ford Five Hundred sedan, though the Montego's version of upscale is of the Korean off-shore casino variety. The faux wood-grain interior trim looks like it came off a prison lunch tray. I've felt better leather upholstery on footballs.
      But this is not a case of a car nibbled to death by details. Overall, the car has a profoundly geriatric feeling about it, like it was built with a swollen prostate. To drive this car is to feel the icy hand of death upon you, or at least the icy hand of Hertz, because it simply screams rental.
      On paper, the Montego has much to recommend it, which would be fine if cars were made of paper. A large four-door, five-seat car — cut generously in the seat, you might say — the Montego has an enormous 21-cubic-foot trunk. So right there it has cornered the traveling-carpet-salesman market. Built on a corporate vehicle platform shared with Volvo, the Montego and its blue-badged sibling Five-Hundred are available with all-wheel-drive. Our test car, a premium model with AWD, was equipped with a continuously variable transmission, a type of fuel-saving gearless transmission that optimizes the engine speed for maximum torque during hard acceleration and slips into overdrive when demands lessen. Front-drive models come with a six-speed automatic.
      The premium package draws heavily from Ford's larder of convenience items, including an eight-way, power-adjustable driver seat and four-way adjustable front-passenger seat (both heated); Xenon headlights; heated outside mirrors; two-position memorized settings for seats, mirrors and the adjustable pedals; and a full suite of power accessories. Missing in action are options for a navigation system and stability control.
      It's abundant on paper. As a presence in steel and glass, the Montego inflicts a gnawing sense of privation upon the driver. There is no soul to this car, and it's about as sexy as going through your mother's underwear drawer. Except for those who need the oversized trunk to carry their assisted-mobility scooters, few could prefer this car to its Asian rivals such as the Toyota Camry, Honda Accord V6 or Nissan Maxima, never mind the products with upscale badges like Lexus and Acura hovering in the $30,000 range.
      The trouble lies with the car's engine, a clattery 3.0-liter V6 whose output of 203 horsepower is smothered by the car's two-ton curb weight. Ordinarily, this power-to-weight ratio would not be out of bounds, but Montego's AWD package is bundled with a torque-swallowing CVT transmission, making the car logy from a standing start and cruelly slow in passing situations.
      This torpor has a soundtrack. When you mash the gas the powertrain moans as if you were raising dear departed Uncle Sal at a séance.
      The power train's lack of refinement so penetrates the driving experience that it is hard to give the car a fair shake. It is not, after all, a bad-looking car, though I prefer the more understated look of the Five Hundred to that of the Montego, which has a face like Mike Mulligan's steam shovel. The interior design is handsomely spare, balanced and geometric. With its tasteful chrome bezel gauge cluster, the instrument display is spot on; the steering wheel switches (audio and cruise control) are well organized and substantial feeling.
      But what's the deal with the center stack controls? As I sit here now I cannot think of any designed product that is as awesomely cheap-looking as the audio and climate controls in this car. The stereo controls comprise a big, ugly flank of black plastic with a green LED display in the middle. It reminds me of the ham radio kits I put together in high school. These controls are risible enough in the Ford F-150 pickup, but here, in a "premium" automobile, they are quite unforgivable. Ford owns Volvo and Mazda, two companies that do a fine job with instrumentation design. Can Ford's guys get the notes from somebody in class?
      The car's cushiony ride comes at the cost of any backbone in the handling department. Significant body roll accumulates in corners, and the car has a front-driver's pushiness. It was hard to feel any handling benefits from the AWD system. The powertrain functions like that of a front-drive car until significant slip occurs at the front wheels. Then a mechanical differential distributes power to the rear wheels. I will have to take Ford's word for it.
      Over and over, it's a car that fumbles the fundamentals. The seats, for example. They are, first of all, big and flat and unsupportive, so that despite eight ways to adjust it, the driver's seat never gets comfortable. Meanwhile, this car was designed as a kind of sedan qua SUV, offering drivers the high seating position and commanding sightlines of a sport-utility while retaining the virtues of a sedan. If you see one of these in a parking deck you will notice its roof crests a couple inches higher than those of the cars around it.
      I have my doubts about this SUV-seating idea even in theory. In practice, the seat's raised H point (hip point) puts the driver in an awkwardly elevated position so that you never feel quite like you are sitting in the car so much as sitting on it. The seat itself feels like one of those extra-high hospital toilets. Where is the nurse call button?
      These cars — the Five Hundred and the Montego — are intended to be mainstream, high-volume products that will supplant the Taurus/Sable twins, which remain in production at the moment. My question: Has Ford ever seen the competition? They are gorillas and these cars are organ-grinder monkeys with little hats. I'm trying to imagine the family-sedan buyer making his way down Glendale's Brand Boulevard, test-driving cars as he goes, and alighting on the Montego. I'm still trying.
      Ford has had an amazing year. The new Mustang. The Ford GT. Superb redesigns of the Focus and F-150 families. Who would have thought the mid-size sedan project would be so elusive? With all of Ford's global resources, the most valuable of all is its collective judgment. As for the Montego, I don't understand how this lamentable rentable got out of the barn.

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    3. 12-10-2004 09:02 PM #2
      I have driven both the Ford 500, and Mercury Montego - each over 1000 miles (far more than most Journalists), and I agree completely.
      Both vehicles, while good looking on paper, and made from slightly better materials than your average Ford - both excercise the same driving spirit of the recently deceased Taurus.
      The price point is very high for what you get, given the quality. While there are few major areas to elicit complaints - there are NO areas to procure compliments. A Toyota camry feels like a red-blooded sports car in comparison - and you know how much I hate Camry's driving feel.
      If you made a strong liquor from the melted sheet metal of these two mediocre beasts, you'd get : ABSOLUT MEH.
      The looks are the same - this is where the Freestyle shines a tiny bit. Its more interesting, useable, and I accept its decent drive, because I see it as a sport ute.
      Anywho...I agree with most of what this guy said. I did skim the last few paragraphs though.

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      04-06-2015 04:24 PM #3
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      I just stumbled across this ancient thread and had remembered Dan Neil's saying that driving this car is to feel the icy hand of death, it's so geriatric. I also remembered that he kinda loved the Ford Five Hundred, go figure.

      "The Five Hundred's styling shows "admirable restraint," "Is the car beautiful, exciting? No. But (it's) well-balanced, grown-up, and it's a terrific packaging job. It suggests mental health, not emotional rescue."


      Neil usually goes for the emotional jugular (the icy hand) -- but I think he was right when he loved the Five Hundred, these remain handsome while their big competitor, the Chrysler 300 looks bafoonish.

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      04-06-2015 05:41 PM #5
      Agreed, totally irrelevant.

      The Cliff notes, with pics:

      Dan Neil hated the Mercury Montego: "The car has a profoundly geriatric feeling about it... to drive this car is to feel the icy hand of death upon you."









      But Dan Neil loved the Ford Five Hundred: styling shows "admirable restraint," "Its well-balanced, grown-up, and it's a terrific packaging job. It suggests mental health, not emotional rescue."






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      04-06-2015 05:47 PM #6
      Started reading the thread without taking notice of the start date. I was thinking.... who in the world would write a Montego review in 2015.
      That said.... I happen to have a 2009 Taurus and can say a few things regarding that car. Interior space tops most midsize SUV's. Head space like in the Cathedral of Colone. The design of the interior screams "rental".... so what? This is the cheapest all around work horse I have ever bought. 8 foot 2X4's, yes open the trunk lid and shove it right through to the front... no problem ( and the lid closes). Trunk holds luggage for a family of 5 (mine) which can sit comfortably in the passenger compartment. How many child seats can you put in your rear bench? I can fit three next to each other without hassle. The car is perfect for its intended use. I love it.

      Suspension SUCKS though

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      04-06-2015 06:03 PM #7
      Why does the suspension suck?


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      04-06-2015 06:21 PM #8
      [QUOTE=pcm84;87478480]Why does the suspension suck?

      Suspension issues are well know for this car. Ranging from horrible noises coming from the struts and dust boots as well as alignment issues. I have replaced the front shocks and springs with brand new ford units. Noise came back after 500 miles.
      Bad control arm bushing design causes front alignment to get out of spec. The alignment can not be fixed because the front geometry doesn't allow for any adjustment other than Toe. The good news is..... a new control arm with bushings cost only $110 or $75 aftermarket.

      I always wanted to put a aftermarket coilover kit on it (Flex is on the same platform) but that would take away the easiness of the car as a comuter

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      04-06-2015 06:41 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by pcm84 View Post
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      Zombie thread!
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      You revived an 11 year old thread, that only had 1 reply and was written by a guy who only had one post here and never came back...

      This bump was bad and you should feel bad.

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      04-06-2015 06:46 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by Hostile View Post
      You revived an 11 year old thread, that only had 1 reply and was written by a guy who only had one post here and never came back...

      This bump was bad and you should feel bad.
      Imagine just how TCL would have welcomed a new user named GrandAm 11 years ago.
      Poor guy is probably still in therapy from all the PMs.
      At least he still has family.


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      04-06-2015 06:47 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Hostile View Post
      You revived an 11 year old thread, that only had 1 reply and was written by a guy who only had one post here and never came back...

      This bump was bad and you should feel bad.
      I dont know it was good a good laugh.

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      04-06-2015 07:37 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Hostile View Post
      You revived an 11 year old thread, that only had 1 reply and was written by a guy who only had one post here and never came back...

      This bump was bad and you should feel bad.
      Yeah, it's a real travesty. What can I say, I tend to search for old articles and threads concerning Dan Neil... so it happens.






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      04-06-2015 10:10 PM #13
      What the hell is with all the zombie threads lately? People have nothing new to talk about?

      Gee-zus.
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      I think I've only ever seen like 3 of these.

      The Ford version not many more.
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    16. 04-07-2015 03:33 AM #15
      Having driven these new I must say I loved how comfy the cloth seats were along with the SUV seating position. The montego had LED tails back when mostly only Luxury cars had them along with surprisingly good oem HIDs.
      headlights.

      As a cheap used car I cant say Id turn one down

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      04-07-2015 08:37 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by geofftii2002 View Post
      What the hell is with all the zombie threads lately? People have nothing new to talk about?

      Gee-zus.
      I dunno, shoudl we revive old threads and add to them, or should we make dozens of new threads on the same subjects over and over? Quite the quandry.
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      04-07-2015 09:22 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by pcm84 View Post
      Every one I've ever seen is like that. Handicap plates or placard. I don't know why, but it goes with the Mercury territory. My father in law has handicap permits from a permanent back injury, and has been driving his '98 Grand Marquis the entire time I've known him.


      I don't mind the thread bump. It was clearly labelled and reasoned. Better and more interesting than making a new thread.

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      04-07-2015 09:26 AM #18
      The 500/Montego has really upright seating and very easy ingress/egress. It's a great car for people with limited movement.
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    20. 04-07-2015 09:33 AM #19
      I am happy to re-read anything from Dan Neil

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      04-07-2015 09:36 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by Chris_V View Post
      I dunno, shoudl we revive old threads and add to them, or should we make dozens of new threads on the same subjects over and over? Quite the quandry.
      When the thread is 11 years old? Just start a new one. The conversation ended ELEVEN years ago.
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      04-07-2015 09:42 AM #21
      My folks own a Ford Freestyle, which is built on the same platform as the 500/Montego. While the Freestyle is a CUV, I would argue it is sufficiently closely related to say a simple rebody would make it a 500 wagon.

      That said, I have long classified the 500/Montego/Freestyle as "close, but no cigar cars," i.e. the basics are good, but they are let down either by insufficient development or obvious cost-cutting.

      The Freestyle, which I have driven extensively, is a remarkably comfortable and effective family hauler -- it's a good mid-size with remarkable room, particularly in the third row seat, which is surprisingly comfortable even for adults and is very easy to access. The interior is also incredibly flexible, with the split third row seat folding flat into the floor. And even with the rear seat up, there's decent cargo room.

      So we've established it's extremely flexible and useful. Is it fun?

      Absolutely not.

      Wheezy underpowered engine (this one has the problematic CVT which at 70k miles has already been replaced once), hard plastics everywhere you can reach and touch (including fake wood that belongs in the cheesy fake wood hall of fame), and handling that is safe and secure but which takes the word "fun" and runs it over. In the mud.

      Which relegates it (and I would argue the 500/Montego) to the effective transportation appliance category. If you're looking for something that is very effective, these are (were) great choices. If you're looking for fun and inspiring, look elsewhere.

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      04-07-2015 09:44 AM #22
      I'm more weirded out by the poster who insists on putting a picture of a Mercury Montego in every single response.

      That's just not....right....

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      Montego GT:

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      04-07-2015 10:40 AM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Imagine just how TCL would have welcomed a new user named GrandAm 11 years ago.
      Poor guy is probably still in therapy from all the PMs.
      At least he still has family.

      I feel sorry for all the Grand Am enthusiasts (pictured) that have had think of another user name over the last 11 years while trying to create an account.

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      04-07-2015 10:43 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by 200HP4dr View Post
      I'm more weirded out by the poster who insists on putting a picture of a Mercury Montego in every single response.

      That's just not....right....

      Chris
      Yeah, not quite sure why that's happening.

      But yeah, I totally forgot these existed. When I think about it, I realize I see em semi-regularly, they're just very very forgettable. They look like they drive like ****, just like the early 00's Tauruses.

      Really glad Ford got their **** together in such a big way.
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