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    1. Member TheMoneyPit's Avatar
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      02-19-2005 11:17 PM #1
      UPDATE: Since I have been getting a constant flow of questions reguarding vr6 swaps into mk3s I'll add some advice and a parts list
      First and foremost, Know what your getting into before you start this swap. If you dont even know how to change your oil thent his prob isnt for you. Though the swap is completly plug and play it takes a little bit of knowledge and a good sense of general mechanics.
      The best advice i can give you is to search on vortex. Pretty much every question you have some else has already asked and some else has answered it. This was my first motor swap and before starting it I really knew very little about doing one, but lets just say i spent alot of time searching through archived links and talking to as many people as possible.

      Parts list: Might not be 100% complete


      vr6 motor
      Vr6 throttle cable
      vr6 tranny (no your 8v tranny wont work)
      vr6 Shifting Linkage
      vr6 wiring harness
      Correct ecu for the motor
      vr6 Clutch master cylinder
      vr6 clutch kit and flywheel
      vr6 Exhaust manifold
      Motor mounts
      Vr6 radiator and fan setup
      vr6 Gauge Cluster

      Some good info:
      I would recommend replacing as many parts as possible while doing the swap. Dont do the swap if you dont have any money. Expect to run into problems. Parts that i would recommend replacing when you do it are parts that are easier to replace while the motor is out. IE: Clutch, Waterpump, Timing chains, Acc pulley, Crank seal, Oil cooler gasket, Crack pipe if its in bad condition, and any other seals/gaskets.
      When i did my swap i replaced the following parts for good measure:
      Motor mounts (black forest Stage II kit)
      Upgraded clutch kit
      Crank seal
      Water pump
      Coil pack
      Clutch master cylinder
      Spark plugs
      Checked timing chains (found that previous owner replaced them)
      .....
      Some other tid bits of information.
      Parts that dont need to be changed if you dont want
      -Axels (if your staying 4 lug)
      -Suspension (2.0 stuff will work but vr6 is stiffer)
      -Pedal Cluster (Same cluster)-Only needs to be changed for mk2 vr swap.
      -Brakes(can remain the same, or upgrade to corrado rotors with vr6 calipers)
      -To hook up the MAF: you need the vr cluster, the maf wiper stalk and the maf wiring harness. the harness hooks up from the stalk to the fusebox

      UPDATED WITH MORE INFO:
      Figured i would through this in here. In regards to the clutch pedal.. You do not need to replace it when doing the swap. The part number (1h1 721 321 a) is the same for both 2.0 and vr6. The pedal was designed to work for both. The clutch cable on an aba motor attaches to the top of the pedal. When doing the swap just remove the clutch cable and install the clutch master cylinder. The operating rod that sticks through the firewall to the inside of the car uses a clip in order to secure into the middle of the pedal.


      The pedal for reference

      The more you replace the better...Vw put alot of these upgraded parts on the vr6's for a reason so if you have the money do it right.

      And heres the pictures
      Enjoy and feel free to comment



      Make a mental note of how clean the floor is in my garage day 1 haha












      Well its all finally comming together.... dash is back together, wiring is done inside the car and the motor is bolted up....

      Then Kevin got tired and took a nap






















      Special Thanks to
      Uncle Junk and Oh My Vr6



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      02-19-2005 11:24 PM #2
      It's a ton of fun in the freezing cold isn't it.
      Awesome job man. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] Wat kind of a time span are we looking at here?

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      02-19-2005 11:41 PM #3
      im curious as to why you removed your dashboard??
      i didnt remove mine when i swapped.

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      02-19-2005 11:51 PM #4
      Quote, originally posted by jhayesvw »
      im curious as to why you removed your dashboard??
      i didnt remove mine when i swapped.

      I take em out cause it only takes about 2 seconds and you spend less time curled up uncomfortably in the drivers foot well doing wiring

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      02-19-2005 11:56 PM #5
      Quote, originally posted by ..Countblah.. »
      I take em out cause it only takes about 2 seconds and you spend less time curled up uncomfortably in the drivers foot well doing wiring

      no offence derek, but
      youre much bigger than me.
      im guessing its to install the harness for the MFA. but that is a steering column harness isnt it. ?
      i dont have one.

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      02-19-2005 11:56 PM #6
      Quote, originally posted by two point o »
      It's a ton of fun in the freezing cold isn't it.
      Awesome job man. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] Wat kind of a time span are we looking at here?

      well the car was away for the winter so i took my time with it.... about 2 months ...
      Quote, originally posted by ..Countblah.. »
      I take em out cause it only takes about 2 seconds and you spend less time curled up uncomfortably in the drivers foot well doing wiring

      bingo nothing worse then laying on your back with the seat bracket sticking into you.
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    9. 02-20-2005 12:39 AM #7
      this thing wont ever run !! JK I have faith !! better you than me !

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      02-20-2005 12:47 AM #8
      looks good [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] I always take the dash out... otherwise, this could happen to you...

    11. 02-20-2005 11:51 AM #9
      [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    12. 02-20-2005 01:46 PM #10
      that must have been a b**** working with that bad lighting but good stuff anyway [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      02-20-2005 09:37 PM #11
      Quote, originally posted by LowRiderVR »
      that must have been a b**** working with that bad lighting but good stuff anyway [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

      My camera just happends to suck at night shots....the lighting was halfway decent... It gets the job done
      thanks for the comments everybody
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      02-20-2005 09:39 PM #12
      good deal man [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    15. 02-20-2005 09:43 PM #13
      sweet [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      one of these days i'm going to jump on the wagen

    16. 02-20-2005 09:50 PM #14
      nice... I have the same engine hoist!
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    17. 02-21-2005 11:12 AM #15
      fun little swap... had to get my pose in there in the night shot v-dub stylez. deadline is march 1st... im sure we have a few more long days ahead of us this week. if your gonna do a swap, do it right like DRC and take your time, it will be worth it in the end.

    18. 02-21-2005 06:50 PM #16
      By any chance is this the wrecked car you got the VR6 motor outta?
      After:

      Before Telephone pole:
      Because if so its my old car....lol....i just noticed the yellow neuspeed spark plug wires and It kinda struck me.

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      02-21-2005 07:06 PM #17
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    20. 02-21-2005 07:09 PM #18
      Quote, originally posted by euronated »
      By any chance is this the wrecked car you got the VR6 motor outta?
      Because if so its my old car....lol....i just noticed the yellow neuspeed spark plug wires and It kinda struck me.

      yeah it is man....he got it from Ant.

      looking good man....March 1st is around the corner you gonna make that deadline you made for yourself...haha [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    21. 02-21-2005 08:13 PM #19
      Thanks for the info tom.......nice supercharger by the why.......can't wait to hear that bad mammy jammy [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] and rims too your car is gonna look ill come summer time

    22. 02-21-2005 08:14 PM #20
      thanks bro....all in due time....i'm poor now but it'll be worth it haha

    23. 02-21-2005 08:15 PM #21
      hell yea man......what are you doing with them montes?

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      02-21-2005 11:26 PM #22
      Andrew....you did quite a number on the car hahahaha everyone that see's it doesnt know how your still alive. I would at least think that you would be missing a foot . Either way... The motor seems sound and we took it all apart and replaced alot of gaskets and seals. The timing chains looked as if they had been replaced at some point.
      TOM..
      As for march 1st... It will be close.. Im waiting on a new crank pulley... and some other parts. If i had a every parts store i needed close by then you bet your ass it would be done....i hate usps!!!
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    25. 02-22-2005 07:36 AM #23
      thats awesome man.......good luck with the motor.......it ran like a champ for the whole 5,000 miles i drove it. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] thats gonna be one sick jetta gl........x lol

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      Looks good man [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
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