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    1. Member sdezego's Avatar
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      08-16-2006 12:22 AM #1
      Goodbye '90, Hello '94
      I am Finally Done with this phase!. I forced myself to finish it before starting assembling my 2L 20v.
      Background: I acquired a late '93 Vr Corrado that was crashed. I decided to take the entire insides (and then some) and do something a little different to bring my 1990 a bit more up to date.
      I'll let the pics do the talking, but here was the final list of tasks that kept growing:
      - Take entire Tan Leather Interior from donor and custom Dye it
      - Custom Dye Visors, Sunroof Console and misc pieces
      - Convert D/S door to accept late card
      - Swap Complete Late Style Dash, Center Bezel, Switches, Stalks, Clamshells, etc etc
      - Added Late Oil Press/Volt
      - Swap Late HVAC and Controls
      - Fix Heater Door Flaps
      - Swap Complete Late style EDL ABS
      - Strip and repaint P/S Late Door (Mine had one too many door dings)
      - Repaint Side Mirrors and install new Mirror glass
      - Rebuild a Hybrid Glass Moonroof and use Late Style Motor, Switch and harness
      - Install Late Oil Pressure/Volt Gage
      - Swap out most wiring harnesses from the Late '93 and clean up all other wiring.
      - Install heated seats switch and harness
      - Redo Headliner and Sunroof Shade
      - Clean Carpet
      - Fix all A pillars and all other misc interior stuff
      - Fix all instrument lights, Switch backlights and indicators Note: PITA
      - Swapped in Later Cruise system and moved pump out of the Engine bay to the rear inner drivers fender well like the Vr
      - New Rain Gutters
      - Clear Markers
      - Vr ECode Lenses and Bezels Coming for my G60 ECodes
      - probably forgetting stuff....
      Pic of old interior

      Donor
      Full Story on Donor here -> https://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2418394

      The Strip Down and wiring Madness



      The Leather Refinish Pics
      See Link here for more information on the process -> https://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2596179



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      08-16-2006 12:23 AM #2
      Newly painted doors and mirrors (Base/Clear) Wet sand not necessary here

      Making progress on wiring









      HVAC Swaping


      Floppy A/C Vent fix

      High Tech Design for adding Late Style Door card brackets. Compare to Late P/S Door
      Late Style Door w/ Brackets




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      '90 Corrado | '62 Harley Panhead
      08-16-2006 12:24 AM #3
      Headliner Redo and Sunroof Shade






      Sunroof Madness.. Shrapnel, etc
      Ended up using a B3 Passat Glass Panel, 93 Corrado Frame, A3 Wind Deflector and Shade, and pick of the crop variations of internal slider parts.



      Interior Completion (Conditioner and Flash makes things look much more shiny than they are)







      Modified by sdezego at 1:35 AM 3-19-2007

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      08-16-2006 12:24 AM #4
      NO MORE ABS LIGHTS!!!


      New Mirror Glass

      NFL Time ->Go Bucs



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      08-16-2006 01:42 AM #5
      So Clean!!!
      BBS

    8. 08-16-2006 01:47 AM #6
      Shawn, I met you a couple times and at first, for the most part, I thought you were a pretty normal guy. More and more I am beginning to think you have issues [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      I envy your followthroughwithitiveness

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      08-16-2006 01:58 AM #7
      ho-a-my god. Should have sent a poet.
      Okay, what exactly did you do with the headliner? i love it!


      Modified by pueblorrado at 12:00 AM 8-16-2006

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      08-16-2006 02:06 AM #8
      veey nice job man!!! i have the same headunit. how long did the redo take.
      Former: 1990 VW Corrado, 2007 VW GTI, 2002 VW GTI 337
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      08-16-2006 02:12 AM #9
      That is ridiculous. Rediculously awesome!!! [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      08-16-2006 04:12 AM #10
      [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] Very clean! What did you use to dye the headliner? I'm considering a black/tan look...

    13. 08-16-2006 04:12 AM #11
      You are one patient guy! I don't know how you did all the wiring but good god man!!! I am speechless.
      Where did you learn to do all that? Or did you just decide to give it a shot without ever doing electronics before??

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      08-16-2006 05:24 AM #12
      Fresh!

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      08-16-2006 08:38 AM #13
      I really like the way the seats turned out [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      Brian

    16. 08-16-2006 09:07 AM #14
      That is superb. Great work. Great patience. Great vision.

    17. 08-16-2006 09:14 AM #15
      sick work, very nice!

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      08-16-2006 11:59 AM #16
      nice work

    19. 08-16-2006 12:28 PM #17
      great work, i took the easy route and died the head liner and visors only, you went way beyond that. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      08-16-2006 01:45 PM #18
      Thanks for all of the kind words!
      Quote, originally posted by leebro61 »
      Shawn, I met you a couple times and at first, for the most part, I thought you were a pretty normal guy. More and more I am beginning to think you have issues [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]



      Quote, originally posted by mwatson »
      [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] Very clean! What did you use to dye the headliner? I'm considering a black/tan look...

      I originally dyed/painted it with the same stuff I did the interior with. I wasn't 100% thrilled with it so I went to Joann's fabrics and found this stuff and I am thrilled with it. It is like a flexible vinyl that has sort of a rubbery feel with a low sheen. Awesome stuff! Used the Good yellow 3M spray Adhesive and it all molded beautifully in the tough spots.
      Quote, originally posted by a_riot »
      Awesome job mate. But how can you do all that work and still have US seat belts =

      They all work The price that people want for Euro setups is a crime!

      Quote, originally posted by Germanpower SLC »
      You are one patient guy! I don't know how you did all the wiring but good god man!!! I am speechless.
      Where did you learn to do all that? Or did you just decide to give it a shot without ever doing electronics before??

      Thanks! yea, you definitely have to have patience for something like this No, this wasn't really a shot on a whim, I have been at this sort of stuff for a while This was a first attempt at the Leather work though.

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      08-16-2006 02:38 PM #19
      Quote, originally posted by chocolatecamil »
      veey nice job man!!! i have the same headunit. how long did the redo take.

      My Head unit is the only thing that looks out of place to me. I like function/features as well as the remote, but the fact that you can not turn off the dancing lights irritates the pizz out of me. I am either going to make a custom Surround so it looks more molded, or I will change it out. Alpines always have a very clean look IMO.
      From Start to finish (with the donor already stripped), I think it took me a little over 3 months. That is with living "somewhat" of a life and many other projects in between.
      Quote, originally posted by Germanpower SLC »
      You are one patient guy! I don't know how you did all the wiring but good god man!!! I am speechless.

      I forgot to mention that I could not have done the wiring without my friend Robert. Robert Bentley that is We spent many o' day and many o' night together and became very intimate. I was able to find some mistakes he published though... Having all of the late harnesses definitely made the job cleaner and easier to manage IMO. The differences in routing and circuit changes from early to late were the biggest pain in the whole ordeal.
      Shawn

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      08-16-2006 03:33 PM #20
      time to start looking for a tan interior!!

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      08-16-2006 09:50 PM #21
      Been Getting Lots of IM questions about various items, so I will add a few informationals here and there.
      Wiring for the Late Style Oil Pressure/Volt Gage:

      There is detailed wiring in the Bentley for this (P134 or 360). Here are a few things to get you started.
      -The Volt Gage Src on 93 went to the Bk/Y wire that the + Glove box light Cricuit is on. Make sure this wire on your 92 is Bk/Y and is one hot when the Ign is on. This ends up at Q/4 at the Fuse Box
      - The Dimmer light Circuit src is Gy/BL and you can tie into either the same color on the radio harness and/or the Cig lighter Harness.
      - A ground (Br)
      - Oil Pressure sender Wire (Orig BL/Y from Volt/OP Gage plug -> BL/W wire that runs to the Engine Bay).
      on the back of the Gages here is the plug config starting from the top:
      - Oil
      - Volt
      - Ground
      - Light

    24. 08-16-2006 09:55 PM #22
      i just bought the oil pressure/volt gauge and i dont have that plug for the back of the housing. those 4 wires are the only wires needed to get it to work correct?
      also, where did you get your oil pressure sender? i need to purchase that next [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      08-16-2006 10:04 PM #23
      Yes, those are the only wires. I had the Donor car, so therefore meticulously took out every harness front to back w/o clipping anything. I also took the OP gage Sender and its Banjo Fiting to go between the Oil Flange and the Low pressure sender for the idiot light.

    26. 08-16-2006 10:15 PM #24
      ohhhh ok. for a job well done

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      08-19-2006 07:26 PM #25
      Here is some information on the Hybrid Sunroof and also some facts about various parts.
      My orig Sunroof was working when I pulled it apart, but there was the dreaded Scratches at the rear D/S corner. This is a tell take that the rear slider is broken (See Pic Below). This can also and usually cause the dreaded tilt, but no slide.
      The '93 (aside from the Late Style Motor and SW) is identical and was perfect when I removed it. So, the orig plan was to repaint the Green->Black panel which I did. While I was Bench adjusting it manually to get the interior panel in, I heard a dreaded POP. The Pass Side rear slider broke I was gentle and not sure how it happened. I then installed the good P/S slider from my orig one and guess what. Yep, snapped that one too . I was so gentle and so careful and have had other sunroofs apart. The damn thing just self imploded... These pot metal parts are total crap. This forced me to think about a Glass moonroof.
      Firstly, I read all of the previous Sunroof swap posts in the FAQ, search etc and here is what I got out of them:
      1.) The Passat B3 ('90-'94) sunroof/Glass Fits the corrado best as a retro
      2.) The Passat B4 ('95-'97) will work as well as supposedly has some updated design parts??
      3.) The A3 ('93-early '99) will also work if the frame is shimmed down with some washers, but the Glass panel is curved slightly more and does not fit as well as the Passat.
      4.) Supposedly, in 95/96 there was some redesign in parts for the better.
      I was not able to find #4 to be correct I bought a '93 Passat Glass SR, as well as a '97 A3 Glass SR. I dismantled them both and all of the slider parts etc, were the same Aside from the Chrome vs non-chrome Pivot arm. Maybe this the big redesign that people were referring to??
      Here is what I found:
      1.) Any Electric sunroof frame (Corrado, B3, A3) will work but may require a very small mod for the sun shade if building a Hybrid (See Below).
      2.) the Late sunroof motor can be interchanged on any, but you will need the late Switch and SR switch Console since the Switch is in the Dome light housing (See Pic on first page if you are unfamiliar). Preferably get the wiring Harness as well.
      3.) All Electric Rear Sliders are the Same and will interchange. As well as the Pivot arm, spring, Cam Grooved Arm, etc.
      4.) All Wind deflectors will interchange, but the A3 has nice oval vent holes in them (See Pic). This is the one that I used and will prevent the head numbing resonance when the sunroof is open and the windows up.
      5.) The Front Slider Guides all look the same, but are actually slightly different between the Glass/non-Glass SR. I found this out the hard way. The difference is the small arrow shaped piece the the Drip Tray/Interior panel slips and locks into. The Cable Slider assemblies are different. The Solid panel SR uses a shaft on the side that the spring loaded Stair case shaped arm slides onto. The is used to pop the interior shade on tilt. The Glass SR does not use this. The early cable/Slider can probably be modified to use the the glass if you had to, but not vice/versus.
      6.) The B3 and A3 shades are different and the rear stop is different (thus the small difference in frames). They can be interchanged with slight mods to the Frame. The B3 Shade has one recessed handle and the rest of the is smooth. The A3 has the handle as well as Vent Holes across the front that let light in when closed. I think it looks much nicer.
      7.) The A3 has about 5mm more curvature to it. It will not fit the roof line correctly in the Corrado and don't let anyone tell you different. I put it in just to see what would look like, If you shim the frame down, the center is level with the roof line, but the front corners will have an air/rain gap. Not Good IMO.
      8.) All Sunroof parts are total POS..

      Pics:
      A3 Sunroof wind deflector. Notice the Oval Shaped vent Holes


      Rear Slider and Pivot Arm. Broken... (These are all interchangeable Mk2, A3, B3 and assume B4??)


      Following two pics show the difference in the Front Guide/Slider from the Glass/Non-Glass. Notice the Arrow Shaped Arm differences (width and height). These hold the Drip Tray for Glass SR and the interior panel for the non-Glass Sunroof. Note that the H shaped guide/arm is just broken off of the one pictured. This collapses the Wind deflector as the Sunroof closes.



      Modification necessary to use the A3 Sunshade in any other SR Frame. This is the stop that the shade hits when opened all of the way. The B3 does not use this and has a bolt and bracket that bolts onto the very end of the frame. It also has some internal pieces that slide in the rear cable track that his these stops. You can see them if you look in the B3 Shade pic below.


      Passat B3 Sun Shade


      A3 Sunshade


      If anyone really wants a how to on wiring the late motor, I can add it here. I actually posted most of it in another thread, but just LMK.
      Shawn

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