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    1. Member botkiller's Avatar
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      07-20-2008 03:23 PM #76
      Would it be safe to assume that this relay would also affect the resume control? In my case everything works fine but resume.
      Great tutorial, if I can find the time I might do it!

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      07-20-2008 06:30 PM #77
      resume issues sound like the stalk is bad.

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      11-24-2008 02:22 PM #78
      Okay - so I tried this fix for my 94 jetta to no avail. What I found out was that on my module (model #1HO 907 305) the pin locations mention didn't match up with the replacement relay configurations. This is what works for this module number -
      1 - 87a
      2 - 87
      3 - 30
      4 - 86
      5 - 85
      After installing the new relay my cruise still didn't work, so back to the drawing board I went. I tested everything and everything worked as it should, so I went back to the pc board looking for faults, but found none. Now thinking nothing left but maybe bad solder joints I touched a hot soldering iron to all the pins that I could. Wool-la, problem fixed. Works great - for how long I don't know but at least I beat the ****ty cruise system for now!!
      Hoping this helps someone else out.
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    5. 02-22-2009 03:02 AM #79
      All diodes, Caps tested OK
      anyone know what transducer (numbers are) under the heatsink. can't make it out

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      02-22-2009 04:32 AM #80
      my fix is in the post

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      02-22-2009 09:20 AM #81
      ^ So gonna add that this summer.
      * and somehow get the controls to work with a stock switch. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    8. 02-22-2009 04:05 PM #82
      it seems the only difference in a mk2 CCM is power going to the pump..
      mk2 stalk to power pump
      mk3 relay to power pump...
      could be someone figured a fire hazzard, dead stalk after awhile or cheaply designed the stalk. so adding a relay in, did all the work instead of the stalk
      mk2

      mk3




      Modified by golfjetta at 4:17 PM 2-22-2009

    9. 02-22-2009 05:05 PM #83
      Didn't know mk2's had cruise, that's pretty cool.
      Does anyone know if a bad module would cause my cruise to work once in a while only for 5-10 minutes before it cuts out and won't work again?

    10. 02-22-2009 07:22 PM #84
      try the mk2 cc out seems it doesn't wanna cruise..
      i wonder if it has something to do with the speed sensor
      Adi_Mus alot of mk3 CC work when they want to
      either its too cold for them to operate or when they work, they get too hot. i found my mk3 CCM works when i store it inside the house for the night but only 5-45 min


      Modified by golfjetta at 5:21 PM 2-22-2009

    11. 02-22-2009 09:05 PM #85
      Quote, originally posted by StateSpace »
      Excellent write up! [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      We need more things like this in the mk3 forum.

      i agree.. i think i might actually try this though. sometime this week whenever i find time. it would be nice to have cruise control..

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      02-22-2009 09:08 PM #86
      did the testing first, passed with flying colors. Tried this and got nothing. Oh well, I guess I'm only out like $10.
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    13. 02-22-2009 09:09 PM #87
      youre insane.
      i wish i had a brain.
      at least i can rhyme.

    14. 02-23-2009 01:35 AM #88
      i did notice when condusting the test my fuel pedal went to the floor faster them the CCM could when it worked

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      02-23-2009 09:59 AM #89
      I'm teling you guys...scrap the OEM system (if it is not working and you don't want to rebuild or replace the module) then go with the Audiovox cruise control system (costs around $80 or so). I just did a DIY on installing that thing...the Audiovox cruise control is a great piece of equipment. I havent found anyone who doesn't like it. I thought with as much discussion that goes on about cruise control, more people would be snatching those Audiovox units up. Oh well, here is the link one more time. https://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4252137
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      04-22-2009 09:24 PM #90
      This is a great write-up. Thanks...but...what if the problem is NOT the CC Module? Is there a decent write-up on troubleshooting the rest of the system?
      -Which fuse operates the CC on a '97 Jetta? Yes, all mine are good, just curious since I have found many answers many sources.
      -How do you test if the brake & clutch pedal switches are functional?
      -Is there a way to test the pump directly?
      -And all other possibilities.
      Gracias.
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      04-23-2009 07:56 PM #91
      Thanks for the schematics.
      Where is fuse 51 (5A) located?
      What does it look like?
      I have a '97 Jetta 2.0 MTrans.
      I have no power going to stalk.
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    18. 05-18-2009 02:56 PM #92
      Quote, originally posted by VWVIDA »
      -Which fuse operates the CC on a '97 Jetta? Yes, all mine are good, just curious since I have found many answers many sources.

      fuse for the cc on my 97 gti is fuse #14... which is also for the windows.. i blew this fuse while testing the cc by short circuiting something.
      hope that helps
      CC fuse is #14 on fuse panel [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    19. 05-18-2009 08:41 PM #93
      will try later on

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      05-19-2009 12:22 AM #94
      can't remember for sure, but I think the fuse for the cruise on manual transmissions is shared with either brake lights or reverse lights...double check those. Im sure someone will chime in and correct me if Im wrong. F*** the factory cruise and do the audiovox thing, mine has been working flawlessly since I put it in, even wired it through the factory stock.
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      05-22-2009 12:00 AM #95
      i have read most of this I havean mk2 vr swap everything i put on the car came from an mk3 95 glx i have the heated leather,A/C and all going but no cruise.it is all there,but I did remove the ABS as well as the comfort control mod
      would this have anything to do with it ?
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    22. 07-10-2009 01:56 PM #96
      Thanks a lot I followed this DIY fix. And Now i have my cruise working. Thanks to ein bora also since my relay connection worked like his and at fisrt i thought it didn't fix anything but i switched after i read your post and it worked.

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      07-10-2009 06:35 PM #97
      awesome!!!

    24. 07-17-2009 06:51 PM #98
      I have a 97 Jetta GL Turbo Diesel, and like 99% of other MKIII owners out there, the cruise doesn’t work. I performed the cruise control troubleshooting test outlined in the Bentley manual, and all other components passed except the cruise control ECU. Seems to be the prime suspect for these cruise control systems… My local VW dealer quoted me ~$500 CDN for a replacement unit (hmmmm, seems about $420 too high?). Part number for my particular faulty ECU is 5GA 004 397-11 (or alternately 1H0 907 305). No thanks, I don’t have that kind of dough floating around, worst case, I’ll use a brick. Next stop, wrecking yard; I was lucky enough to find an identical one from a 94 Jetta (same part number) for $6.00, but tried installing that one, and it too, was faulty.
      Can anyone spell recall?
      Now I am really steamed, so I spend quite some time doing searches online for someone who can repair who is based in North America. As you can see from the pictures, if you look inside one of these things, you will see that the sum of the parts can’t be more than $30.00 (printed circuit board). I stumbled across this place called "Module Master" in Moscow, Idaho, USA (www.modulemaster.com). Their bread and butter seems to be repairing ABS modules, but they quoted only $65.00 to repair my faulty cc ECU, plus shipping. So I sent it there for repair. I am keeping my fingers crossed, and will post the results after I install the repaired unit and give it a test drive. Even better than the $65.00 repair price is that they offer a five-year warranty! Beats the snot out of the one-year/ 20,000km warranty offered by VW for a new cc ECU.
      I will keep everyone posted once I get the repaired unit back.

    25. 07-17-2009 10:47 PM #99
      good stuff i will be using this

    26. 08-02-2009 02:28 AM #100
      Ok, so for any other MKIII owners who have gone through the expense of having a dealer do a VAG scan on your car to troubleshoot the Cruise Control System or gone the cheap and painful route of doing the cruise control troubleshooting procedure described in the Bentley manual and discovered that they too have a faulty CC module (1H0 907 305) but do not want to fork over $500 CDN for a new one to VW or be bothered installing a non-OEM system OR taking apart their faulty cruise control module, soldering in wires, drilling holes, purchasing relays, and "fumbling in the dark world of soldering irons and printed circuit boards", I have good news for you: I received my cruise control ECU module back from "Module Master" in Idaho (www.modulemaster.com). I reinstalled it and test-drove the car, and the cruise is working perfectly again. I was pleasantly surprised by the price that they charged me for the repair ($65.00 is the advertised price as per their website). I received the unit back approximately two weeks after I shipped it to them ($60 round trip to ship). I was blown away that they were able to repair for so little money and in so little time, and offer a 5 year warranty on the rebuilt unit (that is BETTER than the 1-year/20,000km warranty offered by VW on a NEW ONE)!
      I also think this module should actually be RECALLED by VW, but it seems that the vast majority of MKIII owners out there choose to either live with a faulty cruise control system or resort to enthusiast forums like this for alternative fixes rather than to lodge a formal gripe with VW, and get them to fix an inherent design flaw, rather than allowing them to extort people on the replacement parts for another $500/ 1-year "temporary fix".



      Modified by mkiiicruisecontrol at 11:30 PM 8-1-2009

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