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The Quattro gets it's long overdue restoration.

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#1 ·
This was supposed to take place 3-4 years ago..but the past 3 years have flown by, with myself having just enough time to spend on the fluctuating fleet of Audi's to keep (some of) them running.
Well now is the time to get the ur Quattro to the way I want it.
The spray paint job was supposed to be on the car no longer than 2 years, but it's been 5.
Yes, if you're just joining this forum, I rattle canned the car years ago.
You can grab a frosty beverage, and read this first...
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2940260

So the car might look good on film, but it takes a lot of wax, and photos sometimes give cars more credit than what's due.
Case in point.

But daily driving the car for 5 years, with two trips across the country, and the fact that the paint is from a spray can, it can do quite a bit of wear, and tear.
This along with the fact that I never really got to spend much attention to the interior, the car really deserves an overhaul.
This will be slow going, so check back...I'll be here for a while.
 
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#28 ·
Re: (Quattro Krant)

No.....
I'm also busy building a shed, which the car can fit into.
This will help speed things along with the car, as it'll have a roof over it's head.
The shed is going quickly, I just have to put the roof on, and the siding.
I do have a steady trickle of parts coming in for the car..some back ordered...some not even ordered yet because of the $$$$
So the car should be road worthy, but not pretty come May.
I won't have the bucks for paint until Summer, so there's always next years Carlisle
 
#30 ·
Re: (Quattro Krant)

Quote, originally posted by Quattro Krant »
Wouldn't a shed for a car be called a garage

Normally, yes.

but I rent, so I don't want to raise the taxes on the land lord.
So the car, while in the shed, pokes out 3 inches...
So it's technically not a garage...more like a car hut.

Parts are slowly coming in....more to come.....back ordered stuff....

Finally was able to crawl under the car as there wasn't 3 feet of snow around it.
Confirmed that the driveshaft center bearing was in pretty bad shape.
Not totally dead, but it has quite a bit of play.
Noew one on the way.
I have a week or so to douche down the bolts...breaking them off is really, really, really bad.
 
#31 ·
Re: (Sepp)

Nice way to "beat the man" on the garage thing
http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif Yeah, you can see where the seal for the bearing is ripped. Now, of all the older Quattro cars I have come across, wether it be a parts car or my buddies 4kq, I have NEVER been able to loosen the bolts for the center bearing and not have the whole bolt just spin. The current 4kq I have, I know they would just spin if I tried to loosen them. I took a pretty solid 4kq and parted it, they just spun, so out came Mr. Milwaukee Sawzall to fix that
My buddies 4kq, they just spin and spin, if he ever has to change that bearing he is up the creek. The ONLY one where I have attempted to loosen them and they actually worked was on my 4kq I bought from NC and my Ur-Q. How are you planning on addressing this problem? Are there nuts up there that can be backed up with crows feet? I don't think I remember seeing them when I poked my head up there, but I may be wrong?
 
#32 ·
Re: (Quattro Krant)

Good golly, I haven't done anything to the car in over a month...
I did however wash, wax, and drive the heck out of it today.
First time on the road in a long time.
Damn that thing is fast.


Yes, still red.

 
#34 ·
Re: (Entwerfer des Audis)

For mods, an ECU mod from Intended acceleration, with a 2BAR wastegate spring.
The block, and head are from a bigger valve 5000 turbo, as the larger size injectors.
Not sure if it helps performance, but the center suitcase muffler has been deleted.
The car has always sounded great.

On paper, looking at 230-250 horsepower. Have yet to get the car on a dyno.
The car pulls quite hard even in the lower RPM range vs. a stock urQ thanks to a higher compression ratio.
A great trait of a urQ, once at speed in order to overtake another car, there is no need to downshift. Just floor it, and wait for the boost to come on.
Kinda like surfing, when a wave comes up behind you, and you feel the push forward.
 
#36 ·
Re: (Entwerfer des Audis)

Quote, originally posted by Entwerfer des Audis »
That's a great photo, too. Got it in high-res?

Sure do, I can email you a bigger shot..
PM me, and I'll hook you up
 
#37 ·
Re: (Sepp)

Parts are trickiling in!
Waiting for some hoses, should be here in a week,
The leaky heat exchanger soaked the carpet pretty good, and for some reason, the drivers side footwell was very soggy.
I checked the rain drains, etc...all OK., fuse block dry...etc...
So I figured I should pull up the carpet to check for some rust expecially where the seats attach to the car (a common rust area)
The carpet ended up being literally soaked.
So I pulled out the rest of the interior, and out came the carpet.

While cleaning up the mess left behind, I found the source of all the water entry on the drivers side.


The coolant stained insulation

So moving on, I started chipping away at the sound deadening material applied to the floor, under the carpet.

Just luckily, a little bit of surface rust in the rear.
There were a few small holes rusted through the driversside well, but I'm suprised it wasn't worse.
 
#38 ·
Re: (Sepp)

I was able to get the driveshaft pulled, bearing swapped, and installed in one day.
Today,
I was getting the floors scraped, and was almost done, then the UPS gent pulls up with my hoses!

So I stopped everything, and continued on with finally changing out the heater core.
It went pretty quick, as everything was accesible.

The old, very leakiy unit.

The old unit leaked so bad, that there wasn't much left in it to spill out when I yanked it out of the slot.


The new, and old hose firewall grommet.
A little dish soap makes life sooo much easier to install this thing.

With the new driveshaft center bearing, heater core, hoses, and heater controll valve in place, it was time for a shakedown cruise.


No leaks!




Modified by Sepp at 3:01 PM 5-14-2008
 
#40 ·
Re: (Quattro Krant)

Sadly, it's not going to happen this year.
But it'll be one more car/person for next years group.
My dad should have his TR3 done for next year as well. http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
 
#41 ·
Re: (Sepp)

Quote, originally posted by Sepp »
Sadly, it's not going to happen this year.
But it'll be one more car/person for next years group.
My dad should have his TR3 done for next year as well. http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
I look forwrd to meeting up with you and the Coupe next year then http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
 
#42 ·
Re: (Quattro Krant)

Quote, originally posted by Quattro Krant »
I look forwrd to meeting up with you and the Coupe next year then http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif

for sure!
From what I've heard, it was yet another good time., http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
 
#43 ·
Re: (Sepp)

Ahhh progress....
The floor is nearly stripped down to the paint

Not a whole lotta rust on the pan, just some very small holes, and mostly surface rust.

I was suprised to find quite a bit of rot where the "B" pillar meets the floor...

The drivers side well where the fender, the "A" pillar, and the firewall meet was pretty perferated on the drivers side, but will be a vrey easy fix.

And of course, the passenger side had to follow suit.
Again, a very easy fix.
 
#44 ·
Re: (Sepp)

Quote, originally posted by Sepp »

for sure!
From what I've heard, it was yet another good time., http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
Let me tell you my and my friend Dan's terrible tale of woe
So I literally put my Ur-Q on the road Friday at 9:30am. Go home at noon, slap on the plates, check the oil, throw in the battery, check the tire pressure and off we go. My buddy Dan was driving my old 87 4kq that I sold him and he since put in a 10VT with 034 http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif He finished up the 034 about 2 weeks prior to us leaving and I drove the car and it was running very strong http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif He put I would estimate about 200 miles on the car before the trip, took it all through the rpms and nothing, drove straight, brakes were fine, no leaks, nothing that would hinder it driving 5 hours to Carlisle. So we are about an hour/40 minutes outside of Carlisle on 15S when we take the cars from 60 to 120mph in 5th without downshifting and the cars felt great. Pull over, get some gas right after that and hit the head and then head back out on 15S. A few seconds later Dan is on the 2 way saying that the car wasn't making any power/running all messed up
So we pull over in a parking lot and start tinkering with it. All the connections at the coils were good, the grounds were fine, nothing glaringly obvious. So we call 034 thinking it was the ECU taking a dump or the MAP sensor or something like that. We got the ECU to register a change when using the line from it like a straw and sucking/blowing so that made us and 034 think the ECU and MAP sensor inside the ECU were good. The car would start but you had to crank it for about 45 seconds and then it would finally start and not idle on it's own. So I say out loud, "It sounds like the timing is off." We check the timing and it's WAY off, like 4-5 teeth. Set the timing correct, fire it up, still idled a bit rougher and then took off. We got about 1/2 mile down the road and had to pull over as the car was holding 4psi with Dan not even being on the gas hard
and the turbo was ORANGE
It is like someone at the gas station switched the timing. I can't see how the belt could jump, the tension was fine and even without the covers on and it raining, it would still not jump and land 4-5 teeth over like nothing happened. Also, the teeth would show some evidence of that, they would look messed up I would think and the belt looked perfect. Dan threw a compression test on it and the cyclinders were 125-60-125-125-125 so he was thinking he bent the valves in #2. Pulls off the head, everything looks fine, not spot on the piston were it looks like the valve came into contact with the piston, doesn't look like the ring was messed up, odd
Also, when this happened when we were driving, there was nothing that happened where you could say "Yep, right then was when I heard a bang/noise/someting happened." So we threw his stuff in the Ur-Q and made it to the show Saturday at 9am and all was well, except the towing bill which was more then what I sold the car to him for
On the way home Sunday we hit up Erie PA for the Great Lakes GTG and had a good time there minus the fact that it was about 40 and windy as we were right on the lake. So, the car that we were thinking was going to be the questionable one, my Ur-Q, as it had last been driven in 06 to Carlisle, turned out to be the go to workhorse, taking all we could dish at her. I was having a blast flooring it going up hills.
 
#46 ·
Re: (Quattro Krant)

damn what a crazy story.
With the rust spot on the bottom of the B pillar....
I repaired a rust hole in the area to the outside of car (in the door jamb) when I first bought the car.
Being that this was a year round daily driver all of it's life, and being a NE car, I'm sure plenty of salty goodness made its way down the little rust hole, and sat there eating away the German steel.
 
#49 ·
Re: (skota)

Thanks, much more work to come.
A day after some rain, I checked the inside for any leaks, and there was a little drop of water in the drivers side foot well.
I'll be waiting for the next shower to see where it's coming from.
 
#50 ·
Re: (Sepp)

Quote, originally posted by Sepp »
Thanks, much more work to come.
A day after some rain, I checked the inside for any leaks, and there was a little drop of water in the drivers side foot well.
I'll be waiting for the next shower to see where it's coming from.
Possibly the windshield seal?
 
#51 ·
Re: (Sepp)

Quote, originally posted by Sepp »
Thanks, much more work to come.
A day after some rain, I checked the inside for any leaks, and there was a little drop of water in the drivers side foot well.
I'll be waiting for the next shower to see where it's coming from.

Pull out the garden hose, have a friend water down the car while you sit inside and try to figure out where it's coming in.
 
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