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      10-02-2008 10:20 PM #1
      I have been working on this for a few months right after we got our new house... my first garage that is mine!!
      This is the beast leaving New Jersey Motorwerks!!

      Currently on the rotissiery (two engine stands bolted to the bumper shocks via 1/4" flat stock

      I will be bringing more to yah when I have more time.
      CJ


      Modified by deepgrooves74 at 9:57 AM 10-8-2008
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      10-02-2008 10:44 PM #2
      what are the details for the svo system you have planned? you going to buy a kit? ( which one?) or build your own? If your building your own i'd like to ee your ideas [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] because im doing one too

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      10-03-2008 06:32 AM #3
      I still have a lot to work out... I was thinking of using this tank behind the passenger seat:
      http://www.northerntool.com/we...04874
      Yet I am not sure that I want to use that tank anymore, and I was thinking of making my own from a 55 gallon drum by cutting it down in size, and putting it into the spare wheel well...
      Right now my main concern is repairing issues on the body, and doing my head light conversion.

      I will start explaining what I am doing later today...
      more pics to come...
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      10-03-2008 02:40 PM #4
      you bought the car from randy? he's a good guy and builds so cool stuff. and good luck with your project.

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      10-03-2008 03:28 PM #5
      Quote, originally posted by ArpyArpad »
      you bought the car from randy? he's a good guy and builds so cool stuff

      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

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      10-03-2008 03:42 PM #6
      Quote, originally posted by goosler »
      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

      Ive never had a problem with him either...always helpful with findin parts for my GTI and built my trans with a quaife.

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      10-04-2008 10:03 AM #7
      Quote, originally posted by chickenwantsarabbit »
      Ive never had a problem with him either...always helpful with findin parts for my GTI and built my trans with a quaife.

      Randy was great to me as well!! He got me out of this other '79 Diesel that had major rot issues... The pics below don't show the rust that well, but I had to seriously clean out this car to get it mold free, and looking some what respectable! I also sprayed bug spray in the car since it was seriously inhabited. Also both sides inside where the main seats went had close to 5 or 6 gallons collectively:





      Like I said... Randy talked me out of this, and I had to work real hard to try and get my money back out of it... Then I bought his Rabbit with a TD 1.6 compared to the N/A 1.6 in the rust bucket...
      If you look closely at passenger side pic you can see where there is no metal at the bottom of the panel behind the door to the wheel arch.
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      10-04-2008 07:40 PM #8
      Quote, originally posted by goosler »
      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

      i don't know what he did to you but he's been decent to me.

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      10-05-2008 09:40 PM #9
      Ok so far I have not accomplished a lot, but I have some rust I need to take care of... The car is in need of some rust repair.
      The biggest problem I have is the frame of the passenger side torsion beam mount is swiss cheese...
      I thought I had a pic of this, but I don't... tomorrow night I will take some to give you an idea of what I am doing about it.
      More about that tomorrow...
      I plan on adding an intercooler from a mazda 626 that I got from the junk yard, and also seeing if I can copy this guy's work:
      Relocated Battery, and the IC is placed where the battery was with a fan underneath it to pull cool air over it...


      Also the turbo manifold made by ATP that is for an 8v gas motor, and then modifying the intake manifold from an 8v... I have the intake, but not the exhaust yet...

      That setup is a lot less restrictive campared to the stock one...


      More tomorrow...
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      10-06-2008 09:49 PM #10
      Ok so before I can put this car back together I have to deal with the rust issues...
      Here's the first which is all ready to be welded with a patch inside the pass fender well:

      Here's my passenger torsion beam mount... the frame needs to be reconstructed... I have to grind it down, and weld in new metal:


      Here we have the interior side of the torsoin beam mount/frame at the base of the pass rear window:


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      10-06-2008 09:54 PM #11
      lol gotta love the northeast
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      10-06-2008 11:38 PM #12
      Wow, Im gonna be looking into this one, youre on the right track. Should be a cool build to watch [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
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      10-06-2008 11:53 PM #13
      Quote, originally posted by deepgrooves74 »
      Currently on the rotissiery (two engine stands bolted to the bumper shocks via 1/4" flat stock.

      how is this working for you i was planning on doing the exact same thing, is it stable enough or u had to widen the legs?
      btw i like the way this is going

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      10-07-2008 06:26 AM #14
      Quote, originally posted by justin_6649 »
      how is this working for you i was planning on doing the exact same thing, is it stable enough or u had to widen the legs?

      It has been on the engine stands for 3 weeks, and counting... I only used grade 5 hardware as well, and the engine stands are 750lb capacity($60 Autozone). I originally only got them for my motor projects, and was going to make a completely wooden rotisserie to hold up the car, but I gave in, and went with everyone else... I did do a wooden header first before the 1/4 flat stock... I have video on YOUTUBE of it cracking 5 minutes after wards... not suggested...


      Then I switched to the steel, and I have had NO problems.


      I can't get a full rotation out of it though... The furthest I have tried to go is making the bottom vertical, and that's what I needed to access my lovely swiss (I mean German/Pa) cheese.
      I also want you to know that I pointed the bumper mounts vertical... if you look at the wooden mount it is actually turned side ways like they should be stock...
      Quote, originally posted by justin_6649 »
      btw i like the way this is going

      Thanks... I will also be putting up some pics of my motor soon as well... the short block is completed already... bored .040 over with Kobelschmidts, freeze out plugs, block heater, all new bearings, and all of the surfaces just polished on the crank, rods, and intermediate shaft. Btw I was within original spec for the bearings... bought my pistons through Randy for 300 and change compared to the 6-700 normal cost... NJ Motorwerks!!
      CJ



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      10-08-2008 02:07 PM #15
      Very excited!! I just won my IP gauge, cam lock, and IP pin lock! I know I have been told that I really don't need them, but I figured for my first diesel I should probably do it by the book...
      http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1
      Also I just bought this Lincoln 110 welder:
      Power Mig 140C K2471-1 http://www.mylincolnelectric.c...42420
      Any tips using the welder...? I am still looking for a Helmet, and protective gear... This is my first welder.
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      10-08-2008 02:12 PM #16
      Ok one thing that I am not sure about with my new motor is how I should break it in... I would like to run it on SVO, but I read in a couple of places that other people broke the motor in first.
      Anyone??
      of course I know this is embedded in my build thread, and I may have to put it into a separate one, but I'll try this first.
      Thanks in advance.
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      10-09-2008 01:34 PM #17
      Quote, originally posted by deepgrooves74 »
      Very excited!! I just won my IP gauge, cam lock, and IP pin lock! I know I have been told that I really don't need them, but I figured for my first diesel I should probably do it by the book...
      http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1
      Also I just bought this Lincoln 110 welder:
      Power Mig 140C K2471-1 http://www.mylincolnelectric.c...42420
      Any tips using the welder...? I am still looking for a Helmet, and protective gear... This is my first welder.
      CJ


      lol... that is the EXACT same timing kit i got...i was pretty sadisfied... it is a "cheap" ebay tool tho, so you need to be careful when using it... ( i remove the vac pum when timing to give extra clearance)
      as far as the welder: NICE! Im jealous...
      This is the helmet i have.. and its pretty nice for 59$.... and auto darkening is priceless..

      http://www.harborfreight.com/c...46092

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      10-09-2008 01:38 PM #18
      oh, also:
      I check out the tank we were talking about... ya, its pretty simular to the one im going to be using...
      the one you pointed out:

      and a few snaps of mine:


      what do you think?

    20. 10-09-2008 03:38 PM #19
      hey, looks like you have some good stuff going on here. I "finished" mine a while back, and the project thread is in my sig, check it out for inspiration, and to save yourself from making the same mistakes that I did. I did piece together my own veg system too, so if you have more questions on that just let me know.

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      10-12-2008 04:12 PM #20
      Sooo I can't use my new mig welder because I don't have a circuit that can handle the amps... I am only running a 15 amp circuit which is already tapped...
      Sooo I am going to go pick up a 100 amp main panel (which is cheaper than a 60 amp), and run a 60amp 220 circuit from my main breaker. I am going to keep the 100 amp 220 breaker that comes with the panel, and I am going to use that as an on off switch for the panel, and use the 60 amp at the main breaker as the fuse... I have been told that it would be safe.
      I am not, however sure about what gauge wire I should use to run this... I was thinking that I should use something larger than I need for my application since someday I may want to run more power out there, and then I wouldn't have to do this all twice...
      I have a finished basement, and I am going to have to run the wire in the ceiling (hoping to not have to cut it open too much), and then out to the garage (about 70 feet with extra wire included). Opposite corners of the house...!!!
      Also the reason that I am running the 220 circuit is that my Aunt, and yes my Aunt, use to be a certified welder. She still welds, but just not as a living like she used to, and has a 220 Arc welder... Sooo I can't borrow that if I can't plug it in now can I...???
      Anyway... Riceeatingrabbit is hookin' me up with some sheet metal, and a section of frame from his sacrificial lambs/rabbits that he has out west, and is shipping it to help resurrect my wabbit...
      More in a little while... going to go get a beer, and think things over...
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      10-12-2008 04:16 PM #21
      I am currently outside working on my doors today... I am trying to transfer power windows from a cabby door into my car, and I am finding some road blocks, but I think it is doable...
      I am going back outside with my beer to continue, and will post pics later.
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      10-12-2008 05:48 PM #23
      Quote, originally posted by deepgrooves74 »
      Sooo I can't use my new mig welder because I don't have a circuit that can handle the amps... I am only running a 15 amp circuit which is already tapped...
      Sooo I am going to go pick up a 100 amp main panel (which is cheaper than a 60 amp), and run a 60amp 220 circuit from my main breaker. I am going to keep the 100 amp 220 breaker that comes with the panel, and I am going to use that as an on off switch for the panel, and use the 60 amp at the main breaker as the fuse... I have been told that it would be safe.
      I am not, however sure about what gauge wire I should use to run this... I was thinking that I should use something larger than I need for my application since someday I may want to run more power out there, and then I wouldn't have to do this all twice...
      I have a finished basement, and I am going to have to run the wire in the ceiling (hoping to not have to cut it open too much), and then out to the garage (about 70 feet with extra wire included). Opposite corners of the house...!!!
      Also the reason that I am running the 220 circuit is that my Aunt, and yes my Aunt, use to be a certified welder. She still welds, but just not as a living like she used to, and has a 220 Arc welder... Sooo I can't borrow that if I can't plug it in now can I...???
      Anyway... Riceeatingrabbit is hookin' me up with some sheet metal, and a section of frame from his sacrificial lambs/rabbits that he has out west, and is shipping it to help resurrect my wabbit...
      More in a little while... going to go get a beer, and think things over...

      oh ya... I did a simulare setup to what your talking about wiring wise... I did a 100 foot run from my main panel to my detached garage. I ran 6 gauge ( which was over kill, but i like to keep it safe) to a 100 amp sub panel. I have a 220 outlet right in the panel, and then 4 20 amp circuits... 3 for outlets, and 1 for lights. Its still kind of unfinished, but thats basically what i did.. You could probably get away with 8 gauge...

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      10-12-2008 06:36 PM #24
      Beautiful cutting my good man... beautiful...
      I can't wait to get my frank-dub project going to the next phase!!
      I will probably run 6 ga then... what the hell... also your 20 amp circuits for the outlets... isn't that overkill? Don't you only need 15?
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      10-12-2008 06:41 PM #25
      Quote, originally posted by deepgrooves74 »
      Beautiful cutting my good man... beautiful...
      I can't wait to get my frank-dub project going to the next phase!!
      I will probably run 6 ga then... what the hell... also your 20 amp circuits for the outlets... isn't that overkill? Don't you only need 15?
      Thanks Again!!


      well, the 20 amps on the high side. but it helps when you run high draw power tools...
      I used to just have one 15 amp running the whole garage ( one outlet, and one light) and when i would run a table saw or something, the lights would dim.. now, theres no prob..
      only prob with 6 ga is that its expensive.. well, anything with copper in it is expensive..

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