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    1. 04-23-2009 11:53 AM #1
      The polo stub axle is from 1995 to early 2002 ie 6n, also seen on Seat Ibizas form 1998 to 2002
      It tends to be the 16v and diesel Polos that have rear disk brakes
      The complete assembly can used but if you use the polo calipers you will need to get flexy pipes with the bango
      There are two sizes of calipers: 34mm and 38mm
      Both sizes have been listed for the mk2 in the past, and Mk4 golf has 38mm ones
      You will just have to see what is allready fitted and use the same size or you may need to reset the brake bias compensator
      Mk4 golf calipers will fit but Mk4 carriers wont (same as if you were fitting Mk4 calipers to a Mk2/3 golf)
      All mk2 and mk3 and polo carriers will fit



      Discs and backplate

      Polo calliper

      Hear is a list of part numbers used:
      right side
      stub axle =6n0501118
      hub complete with nut and cover and ABS ring = 6x0598477
      splash shield = 6n06 156 612
      brake disc = 6n0 616 601a
      bolt stub axle to beam =n90758901 (4 of per side) M10x30
      bolt for brake carrier =n90740301 (2 of per side) M10x1.25x30
      left side
      stub axle =6n0501117
      hub complete with nut and cover and ABS ring = 6x0598477
      splash shield = 6n06 156 611
      brake disc = 6n0 616 601a
      bolt stub axle to beam =n90758901 (4 of per side) M10x30
      bolt for brake carrier =n90740301 (2 of per side) M10x1.25x30
      With all the old stub axle removed you shoud be left with this.
      If you have a mk1 at this stage you will have to grind the bottom rear corner to let the stub axle sit flat
      It is best to clean the axle threads out with a M10 tap since the Polo bolts are a bit longer

      New stub axle and stone gard

      ones the stub axle face is cleaned up you can fit the axle and back plate
      and torque the four bolts to 60 nm or 44 ibf ft

      then you can fit the hub new hubs will be pre greased but i tend work some grease
      in to the bearing then torque the self-locking 12-point nut to 175 nm or 129 ibf ft
      then fit the cap dont over fill with grease or the cap will blow off


      Then check the hub face is clean and flat and fit the brake disk and tighten the screw

      Longer bolts for calliper carrier M10x1.25x30 i went for hex bolts instead of alan bolts

      Fit the carrier and torque to 65 nm or 48 ibf ft

      Then fit the pads and reset the pad clearance on the caliper and fit bolts and torque to 35 nm or 26 ibf ft
      Refit the hand brake cable and ajust
      Fit wheels and torque wheel nuts to 110nm or 81 ibf ft with the car on the ground
      then work the hand brake and pump the brakes
      If you fitted new calipers you would obviously bleed them at this point

      Finished:

      this a list of cars that have the stub axle with the part no 6n0501117 and 6n0501118 fitted

      Polo/Derby 1995 , 2002

      Polo Classic/Variant 1997 , 2000

      Cordoba/Vario 1997 , 2002
      Ibiza 1997 ,2002

      Modified by MUSHY 16V at 8:55 AM 4-23-2009


      Modified by MUSHY 16V at 8:56 AM 4-23-2009

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      04-24-2009 12:09 PM #2
      I like that rear bearing setup much better than what the mk2/mk3 cars have. Makes rear brake jobs a piece of cake with no bearings and races to play with.
      Unfortunetly Im not sure what the availability of those parts in the us are. I should go and see whats actually available in the warehouse.
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      04-24-2009 12:12 PM #3
      Just checked parts on command. Those stub axles, bearings and brake discs are not available in the us warehouses. Its a shame, thats definetly one setup I would run.
      I bet for the us guys world impex or northside could get that stuff.
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      01-28-2010 06:25 PM #4
      bump for the hell of it.
      anyone come up with info on getting these parts in the US?

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      10-27-2010 02:13 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by VWn00b View Post
      bump for the hell of it.
      anyone come up with info on getting these parts in the US?
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      11-01-2010 12:00 PM #6
      Ive been looking for a way to fit 20th/GLI brakes on my MK3 as i have R32 brakes on the front which is causing the rears to look tiny. Seems like this is the ticket. I have an overseas parts hookup im going to see if he has some polo stub axles...anyone interested in a set?

    9. 02-15-2012 02:43 PM #7
      When using this set up does it keep the mounting face of the disc at exactly the same distance from the axle as the mk 2 set up? my wheels are right on the edge of my arches as it is and dont need them pushed out any further!!!!

      I understand the disk face must be the same as you use the mk 2 carriers but just the mounting face i am asking about.

      Cheers. Yes i know the thread is old

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      07-16-2012 03:23 AM #8
      Are wheels wider with this set of brakes than stock 226 brakes?

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      02-26-2013 11:01 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by 1 6 D View Post
      Are wheels wider with this set of brakes than stock 226 brakes?
      bump for this answer.

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      03-11-2013 08:32 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by d-bot View Post
      bump for this answer.
      In the thread I saw on clubgti, they said no. I don't see why it really would be anyway.

      I'm looking for a way to do this with a 5 lug conversion, but apparently the Mk4 stub axles have a bigger diameter than the Polo ones (ie a 5 lug hub/bearing won't fit on a Polo stub axle).
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      10-20-2013 03:31 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by VDub2625 View Post
      In the thread I saw on clubgti, they said no. I don't see why it really would be anyway.

      I'm looking for a way to do this with a 5 lug conversion, but apparently the Mk4 stub axles have a bigger diameter than the Polo ones (ie a 5 lug hub/bearing won't fit on a Polo stub axle).
      Just to follow up on this, I found that you can use Polo 9N bearings (part 6Q0598611), which are 28mm inner diameter (like these stub axles) and 5 lug. Then it's just a stock mk4 brake disc.
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      11-11-2013 10:10 PM #13
      has anyone sourced a good state side supplier for these parts yet? or have a good non-us source. I thinki good case could be made to offer this as a kit to the mk3 community for a reasonable price here in North America.

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      11-12-2013 01:37 AM #14
      Unfortunately I've found the parts bought at a Euro dealer are like $500 I hope superior could find a much more normal source.

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      Think you could post the party numbers for the stub axles?

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      12-24-2013 10:37 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by VDub2625 View Post
      Just to follow up on this, I found that you can use Polo 9N bearings (part 6Q0598611), which are 28mm inner diameter (like these stub axles) and 5 lug. Then it's just a stock mk4 brake disc.
      So I am reading this as this Polo 9N stub axle will accept a mk4 bearing and hub assembly. Is this correct?

      Thanks. I plan on doing this swap but depending on what parts I can get, aka the polo parts, I may just use all mk4 parts instead. Then just mod the beam to accept the brake tabs.

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      12-24-2013 01:05 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by d-bot View Post
      So I am reading this as this Polo 9N stub axle will accept a mk4 bearing and hub assembly. Is this correct?

      Thanks. I plan on doing this swap but depending on what parts I can get, aka the polo parts, I may just use all mk4 parts instead. Then just mod the beam to accept the brake tabs.
      You read that wrong. A polo 9n BEARING (28mm) will fit on a polo 6n stub axle (the ones mentioned earlier in this thread). Then a mk4 brake disc fits.

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      I was looking for the 5 lug polo hub part number. I'd like to put this swap into a mk3 jetta vr6.

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      I posted it. The bearing and hub are integral like a mk4.

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      12-24-2013 11:23 PM #20
      So pretty much a bunch of over priced euro parts and you can do the swap. Looks like I will mod my beam to take the cheaper full mk4 conversion.

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      12-25-2013 04:23 AM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by d-bot View Post
      So pretty much a bunch of over priced euro parts and you can do the swap. Looks like I will mod my beam to take the cheaper full mk4 conversion.
      I've heard of adapter plates (custom), but not beam mods. Post if you do.

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      12-29-2013 01:21 PM #22
      My son is in the Army, and will be stationed in Germany late next year.

      I'm thinking that (if I remember when the time comes) I may be able to get him to look for reasonably priced used parts, and have him ship them home to the U.S.

      As interesting as the conversion looks, I don't find maintaining conventional wheel bearings to be a burden, nor have a problem when they eventually wear out. So, I'm not looking to spend a whole lot on the conversion.

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      Any updates from anyone? Whether it be Polo parts or mk4 custom parts.
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      03-05-2014 03:17 AM #24
      I haven't been able to get the 5 lug stuff working. The sub axles are way to expensive new and I haven't been able to find anything used. The 5 lug bearings might or might not fit after research too, but they're cheap.

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      I would love to have this rear brake setup! I want to know more!

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