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      05-13-2019 09:14 PM #451
      Quote Originally Posted by DimaSoup View Post
      Hello all! I from Russia, Moscow and i have a same problem with my Tiguan Sport and Style 2012, Aisin 09G, CAWA engine 2.0 TSI.

      We have a similar topic on this issue on a similar forum.
      The official dealer replies that this is a typical behavior of this model, but several people, including myself, cannot put up with it.
      We tried everything you can! Changing the coding of the gearbox, changing the oil in the gearbox, nothing helps.
      I am very glad that I found this topic, but I had to go to Google USA, because our Russian Google does not show foreign resources.
      It is very important that this problem was observed on new machines in 2012.
      Now, after reading the entire topic, I have a question - is this a fix for automatic transmission only for America?
      In Russia, I cannot find similar TPI, it seems that people just did not complain about the behavior of their cars ....
      My control unit Part No SW: 09G 927 750 MK HW: 09G 927 750 MK and software 1945, but there is one more firmware 2186 last available. The official dealer does not know anything about the update, it seems that this does not concern our problem of early switching of 5 and 6 gears.

      Now I have found in Poland the H97 automatic control unit and I will try to update it to the latest version of the software.

      Sorry for my English, I used Google translator. ))
      I feel your pain. We had to drive our Tiguan for a year like that until it was finally fixed. It was a big pain indeed. Since you have an Aisin 09G transmission, I believe the issue should be exactly the same. In the US, they had to hook up the car to the computer and connect to the VW North America center to get the update. I do not know if there is a VW Russia center you can interact with but at least I think you can give them the US TSB number in this thread to see if there is an European equivalent of it. Best of luck.

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      05-13-2019 09:34 PM #452
      There IS a TSB the dealer should be aware of and once it's run you should reset the transmission learning. Retrain your shift characteristics and you'll love it again.

      Also, I found out that by simply installing a catless downpipe the car had such a gain in power that it actually improved the shifting because there was so much more power and less lag, the gear didn't matter... It just pulled.
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      05-15-2019 09:59 AM #453
      Hi guys

      An official dealer of Volkswagen in Russia replied that there was no such fix.
      Yes, baby, this is Russia, most here do not even think that something is wrong with the car. Why am I still here?

      Tell me, please, what is your modification of automatic transmission? Aisin 09G and modification. I will try to flash the block on your version. I need to know if the gear ratios match.

      My engine is CAWA 2.0 TSI 170 Hp.

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      05-15-2019 01:34 PM #454
      If you research the 09g TSB you will likely see where a few years ago the dealer came out with an update
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      05-15-2019 08:03 PM #455
      Quote Originally Posted by DimaSoup View Post
      Hi guys

      An official dealer of Volkswagen in Russia replied that there was no such fix.
      Yes, baby, this is Russia, most here do not even think that something is wrong with the car. Why am I still here?

      Tell me, please, what is your modification of automatic transmission? Aisin 09G and modification. I will try to flash the block on your version. I need to know if the gear ratios match.

      My engine is CAWA 2.0 TSI 170 Hp.
      Interesting, looks like you have a different engine. In the US and Canada the engine we have in the 2012 Tiguan is a 2.0 TSI with 200 HP and 207 Torque. That might be one of the reasons there is no software update in Europe. The technical service bulletin for the US and Canada was as follows:

      "check and perform technical bulletin 011213 - 2029206 perform TCM software level for concern"
      "BULLETIN 2012810 REFLASH TRANS MODULE FOR HARD SHIFT"


      For what it's worth, my 2016 Golf 1.8 TSI has the same issue and there is no transmission software update for it either. My solution is to drive it in S mode all the time.
      Last edited by vw_nc_dude; 05-15-2019 at 08:06 PM.

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      05-16-2019 05:19 AM #456
      I just will try reflash my Control unit automatic transmission On the NK version software.
      Can you write me what is your code for automatic transmission ?
      My code JVZ

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      05-16-2019 08:01 AM #457
      Quote Originally Posted by DimaSoup View Post
      I just will try reflash my Control unit automatic transmission On the NK version software.
      Can you write me what is your code for automatic transmission ?
      My code JVZ
      It is an Aisin 09G, but don't know which code you are referring to.

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      05-16-2019 12:06 PM #458
      Just to be clear, the transmission in the Tiguan is actually the 09M which is the high torque (450nm) version of the 09G, which has a 250nm torque capacity. They are very similar but there are some significant differences to the point that I wouldn't always consider them to be the same, especially with programming, etc.

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      05-16-2019 08:57 PM #459
      Quote Originally Posted by Qmulus View Post
      Just to be clear, the transmission in the Tiguan is actually the 09M which is the high torque (450nm) version of the 09G, which has a 250nm torque capacity. They are very similar but there are some significant differences to the point that I wouldn't always consider them to be the same, especially with programming, etc.
      Just to confirm, wasn't the 09M for the Tiguan 4motion and the 09G for the Tiguan FWD? Or are both the 4motion and FWD versions using the same 09M?

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      05-17-2019 06:43 AM #460
      No the 09g was for cars like the jetta and I believe rabbit. All tiguan got the same 09m.
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      05-17-2019 10:41 PM #461
      I think I am confused or this entry in wiki ross tech is not accurate because it says that the Tiguan (in the US at least) has the 09G.

      http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Tiguan_(5N)

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