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      07-10-2012 02:02 PM #2
      I think this is faster than the 8 sports sedan tested 2years earlier. Didn't these come w/ a Mitsubishi Jet engine?

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      07-10-2012 02:09 PM #3
      Stupid fact- it has 2 speeds in reverse too!

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      07-10-2012 02:47 PM #4
      wow, it had better economy when city driving, rad!
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      07-10-2012 03:12 PM #5
      So it's basically an 8 speed manual
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      07-10-2012 11:13 PM #6
      Why is the Civic not listed as a competitor? Or, for that matter, the Accord (which seemed to be compared to the Accord more in those days)?

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      07-10-2012 11:23 PM #7
      A coworker of mine had one of these, and I believe he autocrossed it(he had it after an Opel Manta, which he definitely autocrossed a LOT). He said it was a great car, but it was the only car he's ever had to have the clutch replaced in. I forwarded him the article and he said "woah! Flashback! Looks just like mine. Then again, that was the only way they came..."
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      07-10-2012 11:46 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by HerrGolf View Post
      Why is the Civic not listed as a competitor? Or, for that matter, the Accord (which seemed to be compared to the Accord more in those days)?
      Although the Civic was first introduced in 1972, by 1979 they had all rusted out. Even the 1979 models. So they couldn't be included in the comparison.

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      07-11-2012 02:04 PM #9
      This was my first car! Mine had a pop out sunroof that was stowed in a little vinyl baggy in trunk.

      I remember that the combination of 1st gear + power gear was a great way to burn off that tiny 185/80R13 rubber.

      I also remember that groovy gray checked seating pattern.

      Ah, nostalgia.

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      07-11-2012 02:18 PM #10
      i used to really like these even test-drove one in the '80s but didn't buy...

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      07-11-2012 02:22 PM #11
      Twin stick? That effectively makes this car twice as manly as the next BMW M5.

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      07-11-2012 02:25 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Kameirocco View Post
      wow, it had better economy when city driving, rad!
      Lots of small-engined cars are like this. I can average low/mid-40s cruising around suburbia at 45-50 MPH if traffic is light . On back roads I can hit 40-42 per tank if I keep it at under 65 MPH. But if I go 75-80 the MPG drops to 35-36.
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      07-11-2012 02:59 PM #13
      I remember seeing a lot of ads for these, but never actually seeing one on the road.

      There was a red Champ that came up for sale in Chicago on CL recently; it sat for 15 years and had whitewalls. Somebody bought it after 4 months...

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      07-11-2012 03:02 PM #14
      This car is surprisingly handsome. Also, having two reverse gears would be totally rad.

    16. 07-11-2012 09:18 PM #15
      Having never driven one, I always did wonder if you should shift between the two, ala big rigs.
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      07-11-2012 10:08 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by JLJetta View Post
      Having never driven one, I always did wonder if you should shift between the two, ala big rigs.
      I had wondered if that was possible too. Good to hear the article confirms you can drive 1st power, 1st econ, 2nd power, 2nd econ, etc

      Quote Originally Posted by mike02467 View Post
      So it's basically an 8 speed manual
      Sort of. But by having two final drives instead of 8 distinct gears, they same space, money, and it makes it easier than, say, having 8 sequential gears, all so close, and having to skip gears based on how you want to drive (it also saves time and MPG on the speed and economy ratings, respectively).

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      07-12-2012 03:23 AM #17
      I would rock one of those HARD.
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    19. 07-12-2012 03:40 AM #18
      My mom had one of these when I was a kid red with chrome bumpers.
      Jerk It with Luigi.

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      07-12-2012 04:32 AM #19
      I like how the Fiesta was the cheapest, quickest and most economical. I'd love to get my hands on a clean one

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      07-12-2012 06:10 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by turbinepowered View Post
      I would rock one of those HARD.
      I had one of the 8 speed turbo Colts, and HARD, I rocked it.

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      It would chirp the first four gears.

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