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    1. Member mdt's Avatar
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      07-11-2012 07:13 AM #1
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      The BMW M135i, a sub-£30K hot hatchback and one of BMW’s newly emerging range of M Performance products rather than a direct replacement for the 1M Coupe. It’s only 19bhp shy of that car, though, which was one of our favourites of 2011.

      Technical highlights?

      Try to think of a car that reprises the E30 M3’s dynamic template – compact, light, nimble, rear-drive – but propelled by a sublime 3-litre turbocharged straight six that (acoustically engineered or not) sounds as good, if not better, than any naturally aspirated six the M Division has made in 40 years.

      Its 316bhp and 332lb ft give it a 0-62mph time of 4.9sec when teamed with ZF’s frankly astonishing 8-speed auto. You can have a 6-speed Getrag manual (which adds a couple of tenths to the sprint time) but the 8-speeder is so fast, responsive and smooth, it makes a better case for auto-with-paddles than most double-clutch transmissions.

      What’s it like to drive?

      The BMW M135i is almost Q-car subtle, which made for an amusing 20 minutes on the Autobahn as, time after time, the car rushed to its 155mph speed limiter once other fast-moving (but somewhat bemused) traffic had been persuaded to move over.

      The best thing about the M135i, though, is the grin it puts on your face on a twisty road. Dripping with feel the electro-hydraulic steering is not but, at two turns between locks, it’s direct and accurate and acquires a helpful meatiness with speed. With stiffer springs, dampers and bushes and a lower ride height than other new three-door 1-series models, the M tweaks work a little magic in league with the uniquely styled double five-spoke 18-inch wheels shod with 225/40 and 245/35 tyres to imbue the chassis with alert responses and fine grip without taking too much off the ride.

      How does it compare?

      Audi’s now discontinued RS3 Sportback quattro had 335bhp but an inferior power/weight ratio (203 plays 222bhp/tonne) and cost ten grand more. Mercedes’s forthcoming A45 AMG, also packing 335bhp, will give the BMW a fight in a straight line but, in the current hot hatch arena, the nearest price rival is the £29,745 Volkswagen Scirocco R with front-wheel drive and 56 fewer horses.

      Anything else I need to know?

      Thanks to Efficient Dynamics tech, the M135i posts a claimed 35.3mpg (37.7mpg with the auto) and 188g/km (175g/km). You’d expect nothing less. But I can’t help thinking the real achievement is the focus on something I’d feared the M people had lost sight of: the bloke behind the wheel. Three hearty cheers for that.

      http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc...5i_review.html























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    3. 07-11-2012 07:15 AM #2
      Its still uglier than a scrotum.

    4. 07-11-2012 07:22 AM #3
      In addition, during a crack, back and sack.

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      07-11-2012 08:08 AM #4
      Matty, what are you waiting for then?
      Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bookie View Post
      gt2 is a luxury car, yes.

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      07-11-2012 08:13 AM #5
      I won't be in the market for a couple of years, but it is an interesting car. How much do you think it will be? Will it have a slippery diff?

      It would be good to drive the semi-auto and manual back to back to see how they compare.

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      07-11-2012 09:15 AM #6
      $68,900.

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      07-11-2012 09:17 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by Lima View Post
      $68,900.
      so $90k drive away

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      07-11-2012 11:31 AM #9
      Hahaha timmeh, that is damn funny. As someone who buy Porsches, I get sucked into the clock that sits in the middle doing nothing, every time. As for M135i, it is indeed $90k on the road with the usual sort of options. I'm talking discounted price! The auto is $4k btw.
      Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bookie View Post
      gt2 is a luxury car, yes.

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      07-11-2012 04:13 PM #10
      get the merc a250 amg 260kw 4wd should crap on this and looks a lot nicer plus it integrates with your iphone!
      Yeah I'm a Volvo driver

    13. 07-11-2012 07:52 PM #11
      They're taking money for the AMG a-class and quoting ~$70k. That's where my money would be.

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      07-11-2012 08:21 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by smarm View Post
      They're taking money for the AMG a-class and quoting ~$70k. That's where my money would be.
      You talking about A45 or A250 sport? If A45 then it's nicely priced.
      Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bookie View Post
      gt2 is a luxury car, yes.

    15. 07-11-2012 08:39 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by WAY View Post
      You talking about A45 or A250 sport? If A45 then it's nicely priced.
      A45. The 250 sport which is the "GTI" competitor is far more keenly priced.

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      07-11-2012 09:07 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by smarm View Post
      A45. The 250 sport which is the "GTI" competitor is far more keenly priced.
      My only fear with the A45 would be the lack of boot space due to the AWD. And I also like FWD hot hatches. Anyway, good problem to have.
      Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bookie View Post
      gt2 is a luxury car, yes.

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      07-12-2012 01:45 AM #16
      Fruity crackle.


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      07-12-2012 04:26 AM #17
      OK, Matt, I liked everything I heard and saw in that vid....but only because it never showed that appallingly ugly from end. It's the first car I've seen for a while that has potential to look better after rear-ending a bus

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      07-12-2012 05:14 AM #18
      Sounds exactly like a 1M. This is really just a cut price 1M isn't it? Only thing it doesn't have is the M-diff?
      Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bookie View Post
      gt2 is a luxury car, yes.

    21. 07-12-2012 05:24 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by WAY View Post
      Sounds exactly like a 1M. This is really just a cut price 1M isn't it? Only thing it doesn't have is the M-diff?
      Which is exactly like the old 135 is it not?

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      07-12-2012 05:33 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by smarm View Post
      They're taking money for the AMG a-class and quoting ~$70k. That's where my money would be.
      This guy knows..

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      07-12-2012 05:44 AM #21
      Matt, there is a very good chance that this vehicle could be D A N G E R O U S
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      I am planning to keep this for awhile. I am deadly serious too.

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      07-12-2012 05:48 AM #22
      If you did that, you would be putting an awful amount of trust on MB being able to deliver a AWD drivers' car--something that VW and to a lesser extent Audi (because of the AR Quattro) have manifestly failed to do.

      At least you know that with the BMW, it's going to be enjoyable to drive. There's also something about the design of the MB that isn't quite right. It just looks a little swollen to my mind.

      That said, it doesn't have those headlights. My only hope is that the market reaction to the BMW's front end of the new 1 series tells BMW something they could have found out with less than a thousand dollars spent on focus groups.

      I predict a front-end redesign to be announced within 2 years.

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      07-12-2012 05:51 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by KGB View Post
      Matt, there is a very good chance that this vehicle could be D A N G E R O U S
      The road toll in Victoria is 20 people down on last year Mark. And we're only in July.

      Unrelated to the recent increase in the number of speed cameras?

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      07-12-2012 06:00 AM #24
      Not particularly interesting, save for some fruity gear changes at 2:12.

      Last edited by mdt; 07-12-2012 at 06:06 AM.

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      07-12-2012 06:01 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by smarm View Post
      Which is exactly like the old 135 is it not?
      Nope. The old 135i doesn't burble and crackle like that. 1M does.
      Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bookie View Post
      gt2 is a luxury car, yes.

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