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    Thread: 2009 GTI 6speed. ESP/traction control delete?

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      06-22-2013 05:51 PM #1
      EDIT FOR FIX!!!

      here's what you do to disable traction BUT keep ABS on 2009 gti's.

      Go into the 03 ABS module, click on 07 Coding, then long coding helper, then bite 15 and drop down the menu and select RHD, save the changes

      issues.
      -ESP light is ALWAYS solid on
      -ESP button is worthless now, can not turn on and off...its ALWAYS off




      we built 4 2009 GTI 2.0T 6speed track cars.
      we are testing one out now to get the brakes and suspension setup.

      we were on track yesterday and the EPS was kicking in BAD. hit button, nothing changed, removed button, same. we can't use the cars to the full potential because of this. plus its wearing brakes bad and scuffing tires. its kicking on in a long sweeping turn under 75% power, not braking.... the traction kicks on and the car pulses.

      is there anyway to TOTALLY disable the ESP/traction control in vag-com or another way? I don't care if the esp light stays on...just want the function of it totally 100% gone.

      any help would be amazing. thanks, josh

      car has brembo 14.5'' fronts and R32 rears brakes with carbotech 20/10 pads. no rubber bushings in suspension- all spherical bearings and hyme joints. has 3 way adjustable ANZE coilovers. 18x10 wheels with 265/35/18 mich pilot ss. and much more.

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      06-22-2013 09:18 PM #2
      I have no idea how to hear the ESP/TC, but I want one of these GTI's. They're f…ing beautiful.

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      06-23-2013 01:11 AM #3
      no one has defeated it at the moment. i think i heard you can just unplug something (abs module or something like that) but you lose other functionality you might want.
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      06-23-2013 09:19 AM #4
      I heard of pulling the fuse ,it what the r32 guys do to disable the rwd when they cant dyno on an awd dyno hope this helps btw nice gti race car :
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      06-24-2013 09:09 AM #5
      I heard of the ABS fuse, but that MAY kill the speedo since the speedo is ran off the ABS system in this car.
      also heard about pulling the left front abs sensor.
      also heard about vag-com switch to right hand drive car, keeps abs and kills ESP/traction.

      we will try them this week, but wanted feed back on these or other options. i'd love to just code it out like in a mk4...but these systems are totally different

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      06-24-2013 09:38 AM #6
      I think if you unplug one sensor it'll fault the whole system... I say this because my front abs sensor is jacked up and every now an again I hit a bump and it turns off everything; traction control, cruise control, ABS and the dash lights up like a xmass tree.

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      06-24-2013 09:55 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by onevrsix View Post
      I think if you unplug one sensor it'll fault the whole system... I say this because my front abs sensor is jacked up and every now an again I hit a bump and it turns off everything; traction control, cruise control, ABS and the dash lights up like a xmass tree.
      you have an '09 you should chime in here
      http://golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151505
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      06-24-2013 10:42 AM #8
      Worth a shot but I think it works with only the newer cars. DEFINITELY save a copy of your long coding first if you try it.

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      06-24-2013 11:16 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by kern417 View Post
      you have an '09 you should chime in here
      http://golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151505
      Can't remember my login for golfmkv so I had to create another account. They're issues is exactly what I'm dealing with. I always figured it was due to a bum wheel bearing that had just destroyed the ABS sensor due to the increased vibrations & the Stiff ass ksports weren't helping much either.

      @ NLS, good luck, race car looks sick.

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      06-24-2013 11:38 AM #10
      You can disable it by disconnecting your front abs sensors, it also will turn off the abs what allows for harder braking. l have done it many times so i can play in the snow and canyons.

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      06-24-2013 11:44 AM #11
      Does disconnecting the front abs kill the speedo?

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      06-26-2013 05:11 PM #12
      disconnected the left front ABS sensor. no abs and no traction control. works mint. BUT you have the abs and ESP light on the dash, grrr

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      06-26-2013 07:00 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by nothing-leaves-stock View Post
      disconnected the left front ABS sensor. no abs and no traction control. works mint. BUT you have the abs and ESP light on the dash, grrr
      he says sarcastically since he's dealt with VWs his hole life and knows that if you even sneeze on a MKIII, IV, V or VI the wrong way the dash will light up

      Glad it worked out. Only way you'll get that light out is to pull the LED; might be able to VCDS but it'll take some plugging away.

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      08-21-2013 03:14 PM #14
      ok.... update.

      hooked the ABS sensor back up.
      using vag-com we switched the car to "right hand drive" under ABS system.
      now the car HAS ABS BUT NO TRACTION CONTROL AT ALL!! which was our goal.
      only issue....traction light is on all the time! haha oh well.

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      08-21-2013 04:29 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by nothing-leaves-stock View Post
      ok.... update.

      hooked the ABS sensor back up.
      using vag-com we switched the car to "right hand drive" under ABS system.
      now the car HAS ABS BUT NO TRACTION CONTROL AT ALL!! which was our goal.
      only issue....traction light is on all the time! haha oh well.
      Good to know. Myself and others with high horsepower cars have no purpose of traction control but still want to have abs and such. Figure the light is on all the time anyway if you turn it off lol hopefully this works on mk6 as well.

      Was this in the abs or the can gateway josh?
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      08-21-2013 04:35 PM #16
      tom,
      dave did it a bit back. he THINKS it was in the ABS. he's looking now. i'll try and get a right up and post it on the first post

    18. 08-21-2013 08:23 PM #17
      may oot work but when I swapped steering wheels to a grip royal I had to remove my clock spring completey. and that disabled my traction control and the traction control light was on at all times not blinking. worth a shot I belive that will do it for you. btw love what you guys are doing sick mkv's
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      08-21-2013 11:14 PM #18
      I've also heard of a coding tweak with the steering angle sensor...effectively kills the ESP but again with the light on.
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      08-22-2013 10:26 AM #19
      here's what you do to disable traction BUT keep ABS on 2009 gti's.

      Go into the 03 ABS module, click on 07 Coding, then long coding helper, then bite 15 and drop down the menu and select RHD, save the changes

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      -ESP light is ALWAYS solid on
      -ESP button is worthless now, can not turn on and off...its ALWAYS off

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      08-22-2013 11:28 AM #20
      Turning off the steering angle sensor works as well...

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      08-22-2013 11:46 AM #21
      not 100%....we tried that and on track it still kicks in at times. we tried so much with this and finally found this to be the ONLY solution to fix it 100%(at least from what we found so far) still want to work on getting rid of the light. but that may not happen

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      08-22-2013 12:02 PM #22
      i wish there was a way as there is for the golf R.

      On and completely off with the button...

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      08-22-2013 01:57 PM #23
      What about a physical switch for the steering angle sensor? Perhaps cycle the power to it? I would try it but traction control is not high on my list.
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      08-22-2013 02:22 PM #24
      possible maybe. have not looked into that since we do not want traction at all...so this solution is what we wanted.

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      08-22-2013 07:04 PM #25
      you could try to make a switch in the middle of a power line in order to leave the thing open circuit or not, so its easier to enable and disable esp.

      just a thought

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