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    Thread: '99 Windsor blue Jetta gl: swapping shells and buiding one from three.

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      06-23-2014 08:19 PM #1
      Hey all, thought I'd start a thread on my 99 now that I actually have some time to work on it.

      To start the story on the blue car though, I need to flash back to the beginning of my red daily. It started a couple years ago when I needed a reliable daily to drag me back and forth to college. I came across this beat (really beat!) rusty jetta for $400, got it home and discovered it had a really nice set of Bilstein Pss9's on it, threw a low mile obd1 aba in it, patched (the cheap/wrong way with pop rivets ) and drove it. I met one of the cars previous owners, who had pulled it from a junkyard a few years before me (scrapped for rust, go figure) and found out that the car had pretty high mileage. Over a few years it started to fall together as a somewhat cool daily, wheels, racks, a few cool oem parts, and some aftermarket goodies. So, with all of the stuff falling together on it, and still very little money in it I had a pretty cool car. Then it finally decided it wanted to be a real mk3 (as it turned over 300k on the body) and it Really started to rust. So, left with a lot of cool parts on a rapidly dying shell, I began looking for another one to take its place. A year went by looking at local (West Virginia) cars, some in P.A., and some in Ohio. I couldn't find one in decent shape that was a cool optioned car, and basically gave up hope of getting one close to home. I started surfing craigslist listings for V.A., and one night came across a 99 Windsor Gl, with black interior, every power option, keyless entry, and working A/C and cruise control just outside of Richmond. It also has records of all maintenance for the last few years (timing belt, water pump, tune ups... all done at the dealership) I called the next morning, and after talking to the owner, headed south to get it.

      So here's where the story goes downhill. I bought it at night (I know, I know... I still kick myself) and didn't catch everything wrong with it. The sunroof drains were apparently plugged, so the floor has some rust. The rockers had a few small spots starting, and there's a good sized dent in the roof. The passenger door was also caved in, but It has a straight windsor door on it now. The paint isn't great, and since I'm putting rockers in it I'm going to respray it anyways. The hood has some hail damage, but my red car has a new (ish) Oem replacement hood on it that's straight as an arrow.

      So, on to the plan. I'm eventually going to do something cool with it, but for now the plan is to end up with a very solid daily, with a nice respray and No rust and a few very subtle body mods (OEM+ all the way) to swap all of my parts onto. So far, I've only started into cutting the rockers up and sourcing parts. The new rockers are laying in a box in the garage (Klokkerholm), and I have a decent pile of parts for it. It will probably be a slow progress build, and it won't be any high dollar show car, but I have the patience, time, tools, and most of the skill to make it right.

      Finally, some pictures
      The red daily day 1

      Trendy stage.
      IMG_0069 by KJHillbery, on Flickr
      And now.
      DSC_0131 by KJHillbery, on Flickr
      DSC_0703 by KJHillbery, on Flickr
      DSC_0063 by KJHillbery, on Flickr
      The steel blue parts car (R.I.P.)
      IMG_0399 by KJHillbery, on Flickr
      And my 99.
      1472751_574659629287444_1525758884_n by KJHillbery, on Flickr

      And the progress so far. (Remember, it's still better than the one I'm driving , and the towers are perfect. The rot only comes from having clogged drains and sitting outside for 15 years)
      Passenger side (worst side)

      IMG_0118 by KJHillbery, on Flickr
      IMG_0119 by KJHillbery, on Flickr
      IMG_0121 by KJHillbery, on Flickr
      Drivers side (better but still not the best)
      IMG_0122 by KJHillbery, on Flickr
      IMG_0123 by KJHillbery, on Flickr
      And the non-dented door.
      IMG_0125 by KJHillbery, on Flickr

      So, thanks for looking, and thanks for all the motivation in the mk3 picture thread
      Last edited by crestfallen; 04-24-2015 at 07:34 PM.
      Quote Originally Posted by SiDGh2 View Post
      ""I've never been to the junkyard just to look if they got anything new this week"
      My 99 Windsor Blue project/restoration. Finished!
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      06-28-2014 01:29 PM #2
      The bad side of the floor, this is what happens when a mk3 sits with clogged sunroof drains for a few years
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      Cutting and patching some floors tonight
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      ""I've never been to the junkyard just to look if they got anything new this week"
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      06-28-2014 04:18 PM #3
      One down.
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      Needs to dry completely, then it's getting seam sealer and undercoating underneath, and chassis saver inside.
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      08-16-2014 05:20 PM #4
      One rocker is in. screws are just there to locate it
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      Quote Originally Posted by SiDGh2 View Post
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      09-20-2014 07:26 PM #5
      A few more patches made it in, pulled the rear bumper cover to start re-making the mounting points for it. Also picked up a set of Ultralows for this one.

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      Coils
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      And my new Momo, that will eventually find it's way to the blue car.
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      Last edited by crestfallen; 10-21-2014 at 06:24 PM.
      Quote Originally Posted by SiDGh2 View Post
      ""I've never been to the junkyard just to look if they got anything new this week"
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      09-24-2014 09:24 PM #6
      Looks good, keep it up
      Always seen your cars, its nice to finally know the stories behind them lol

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      09-27-2014 12:23 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by MK3 LUV View Post
      Looks good, keep it up
      Always seen your cars, its nice to finally know the stories behind them lol

      Thanks dude
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      09-27-2014 12:47 PM #8
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    11. 09-27-2014 01:47 PM #9
      nice. I need to do a lot of this patching aswell. body work intimidates me though :S lack of tools/knowledge.

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      10-05-2014 01:46 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by .T.o.n.y. View Post
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      nice. I need to do a lot of this patching aswell. body work intimidates me though :S lack of tools/knowledge.
      Thanks guys

      It got a few more little patches this week, I'll post pics eventually.
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      10-06-2014 12:50 AM #11
      What gauge steel are you using on that thing? I have similar rust holes forming and need to deal with them quick.
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      10-11-2014 03:42 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Biostasis View Post
      What gauge steel are you using on that thing? I have similar rust holes forming and need to deal with them quick.
      16-18 gauge depending on the spot. Basically just used what was laying around the garage

      Finished the passenger floor, and brush painted it with some chassis saver just to give it a little more protection. I used the heck out of this stuff when I built my aircooled. You can tell it's been patched, but it beats holes any day. ALSO, I know I missed a spot. First coat peeps

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      And one side of the rear bumper mounting point (whatever you call it) is making progress.
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      Starting to think this thing might actually get finished some day.
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      10-14-2014 07:55 PM #13
      So, progress (small as it may be)

      After 2 coats of chassis saver, I laid the carpet back down on the passenger side, and pulled the drivers side (Remember, this is the better of the 2) and found a pretty cool European dime (Mexican built jetta ) , as well as more rust.

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      This side is definitely in better shape, so it shouldn't be too much trouble to fix it. Also test fitted the rear bumper cover over the newly-remade parts, trimmed and changed a little bit, and next will be to remake the mounting tabs.

      IMG_0213 by KJHillbery, on Flickr
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      And finally, some pictures of the car in it's current state (beat), some of my header, because I sort of forgot about it, and one of dad's 914, because without his help this thing would still be really rotted out

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      Thanks for looking
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      10-14-2014 09:03 PM #14
      how much was that lift/ what do you think of it?

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      how much was that lift/ what do you think of it?
      It's been in my family since the 80s, and it's nice to have
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      10-18-2014 06:37 PM #16
      Another patch went in tonight. Screws are just there to locate it
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      Quote Originally Posted by SiDGh2 View Post
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      10-18-2014 09:08 PM #17
      how long have you been welding?

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      Quote Originally Posted by MK3 LUV View Post
      how long have you been welding?
      I technically have a degree in High performance Automotive & Fabrication, and I've been welding off and on since High school. I'm mediocre at best. That's why I like the panel bond so much. But I cant take credit for the patch on the rear

      My dad built that, I just trimmed it to fit the bumper cover. He's done bodywork his whole life and is really good at this stuff. Like I said before, this car wouldn't be anywhere near where it is without his help. I helped him wire his porsche and do a lot of the mechanical work, so he's helping me with my project. We've built a couple cars together, and it's cool spending time with him in the garage

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      He has a 69 Ghia that's next on the list, and a bunch of 2 liter parts to build something nasty for the 914. Eventually
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      love this and in for more updates.
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      love this and in for more updates.
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      Thanks guys! Kole, i'll update it more when I get the motivation to work on it one more patch on the drivers side and then that rocker, then the dent in the roof, then all the dings and hail damage, and a clutch and set of mounts and...

      Someday.
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      10-27-2014 07:05 PM #23
      Got part of another patch in tonight.
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      And never noticed until tonight (never payed that much attention) that it was a non-abs car. Saves me the trouble of deleting it
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      11-01-2014 03:57 PM #24
      Drivers rocker went in today.
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      11-09-2014 10:29 PM #25
      You wouldn't happen to have a spare sunroof out of one of the Jettas would you? If so how much would you want?

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