It's no CX tire, but it does give better cornering grip than a Gatorskin.
Also, does the gravel or dirth path curvy? If you're going in a straight line, tread depth doesn't matter too much, just puncture protection.
if your off-the-beaten-path includes some tight switchbacks, then tread depth and side knobs will matter (or you're on a hardpack CX race)
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The goal isn't to do anything close to CX racing, it's to be able to ride down the road, come to some hardpack, and ride it through to another road. No racing, no speed, but yes turns and I'm not going grandpa speeds.
Best video of the kinds of places, they always have the worst music
Sometimes though it'd be in the woods and be lightly covered with redwood needles
This is the surface that I ride with the Gravelkings (and also GP4000s). 15-30mph over pretty well groomed hilly gravel with a few loose spots thrown in.
I do tend to prefer my 29er on these trails, as it's no slower on most of it and quite a bit more capable through turns.
i have it in the back of my mind to swap my TCR Advanced SL for an EVO hi-mod. I absolutely love the TCR, no question, but I no longer have any need for sprinting or snappy responsiveness which is why I bought the TCR to begin with. The EVO was so damned comfy when I rode it, but at the time that isn't what I wanted. Part of me thinks I will miss the rigidity of the TCR though, I love that about it. Thoughts? Why not have both? Well if I add another bike it's a mountain.
Yeah the blue is ugly. The black/red with DA looks good. The team edition looks awesome in person (Joe D lives not too far; I've seen his a few times). I'd likely go with the regular EVO (non-hi mod) in Ultegra and dump some cash into better wheels/bars/stem and call it a day. Or maybe even the hi-mod frame built up with 6800. The lower level DA version is $2k cheaper, looks like it's mostly in the wheels and bars.
I'd only go himod and ultegra. DA isn't necessary, I have the wheels already, and I can get 35% off new. My shop always had leftover models and if even cheaper I'd go DA then but only if there's no ultegra or minimal price difference. He does have a 2014 race in ult I think which is ok looking but not great.
On a road bike, I think new tires are generally stickier than worn tires (which, I suspect, adds a miniscule amount of rolling resistance). However, the new tires also tend to have a more curved/rounded profile (meaning less rubber on the ground and, therefore, less rolling resistance). Conversely, worn road bike tires are likely harder in terms of durometer measurements, but have a flatter contact patch. Just guessing, but I suspect those two factors proportionally negate one another as the tire ages (assuming normal wear--not tires that are way out on the extremes of dry or worn rubber). I also suspect the differences are small enough that they are immaterial to the average rider.
On a knobby tire, the more worn the tire, the faster it is going to roll in a straight line on a smooth surface (for obvious reasons).
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I posted the Conti Top Contact in another thread, but I do think they're also worth considering in a 28 or larger:
I'd have kept mine, but they rubbed on my road fork.
I recently put a set of 35mm Happy Mediums on my gravel bike, and I'm pretty impressed. They roll decently on pavement and aren't too shabby on gravel. While they're noticeably slower than a road tire on gravel, they don't tighten the sphincter quite as much when you overcook it into a turn at speed... that said, cornering grip isn't as good as a knobby. The tread pattern does make for a bit of hopping around on loose climbs though, so there's also that to consider. I would think that they'd be great on some smooth and dusty California singletrack though.
Gatorskins are demonstrably slower than 4000s ii and at every pressure. You're looking about 8 watts lower on the gators. It's not a massive amount for rolling around, but real.