It's not obvious to me why a Ferrari 250 GTO or Mercedes SSK is worth $10-15,000,000 and why there is a floor of support under such valuations, while $500,000 muscle car valuations were just a fad that collapsed fairly quickly. Rarity, emotions, rich Chinese, sheltering cash from taxes or disclosure, buying into the European upper class all probably have something to do with it, but at a basic level I suspect that some things are really expensive just because we all like to chase our desires.
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If you do get one, just make sure to park it for the winter.
"The Sebring is an extraordinary car. Ugly to behold and hateful to drive, it is not cheap, elegant, comfortable, practical, prestigious, clever, economical, luxurious, well designed, well thought out or, if the rental car I drove in America this year is anything to go by, especially well made either." - Jeremy Clarkson
While I appreciate any TR, upon knowing that this beauty exists and being in its physical proximity, my heart belongs to she:
I'd love to be rich enough to the point that:
a) I could afford to buy this
b) I could afford to insure this
c) I could afford to maintain this
Unfortunately, in my case, the answer is:
d) none of the above
There are not as many major differences between Testarossa and 512TR as there between the Test/512TR and F512M.
The M stands for Modificata.... and not just exterior changes which are quite obvious being the projector headlights rather than hidden pop-ups, dual NACA ducts, new front bumper that aped the F355's, 3 piece Speedline wheels, and my favorite difference are the quad round tail lights. Inside it had a new steering wheel, aluminum drilled pedals, and some newer seats.
The F512M is significantly quicker than the TR (0.3 sec to 60) and this is due to a power bump, but also to the fact that it weighs almost 200 lbs less and revs much quicker.
The body is lighter because it uses aluminum for the front fenders, rear quarter panels and the engine cover and a glass composite for the front lid
But under the engine cover is where the most changes are. The M's engine was the lightest of the 5.0L “flat 12” engines, as well as being the most powerful. The weight savings came primarily from a lighter engine casting, forged aluminum pistons, titanium alloy connecting rods and a revised billet crankshaft. The transmission of the F512M was equipped with the same gear ratios, however it featured revised synchro's and a modified shift mechanism to speed up shifting and make it more precise.
Weight was saved in the suspension as well with aluminum spindle hubs front and rear, aluminum sway bar attachment pieces, new lightweight aluminum shock absorbers and the unique two-piece lightweight wheels. The result of these combined efforts was a reduction of approximately 150 pounds over the previous model.The M has a lightened titanium crankshaft (almost 15lbs lighter from what I've read which is almost unbelievable), titanium connecting rods and different pistons. The compression ratio is 10:4 compared to 10:1 for the TR.
The engine also sits almost a full inch lower in the M verses the TR. It's an amazing sounding flat-12 with almost 8k redline. I have a Tubi exhaust on mine and it is the best sounding car at WOT that I have ever driven.
And finally only 500 were made worldwide with only 75 made to US specs.
Between the early Testarossa and the 512TR, I would take the early car. Now throw in the 'M' and I would go that way all day.
True story - when I started looking for a Mercedes Pagoda/Porsche 930 a early Testarossa was about the same price. A 'decent' Testarossa could be had in the 40-50s range in 2012-2013.
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I'd like to do some more photoshoots, especially some rolling shots but don't have the skill (or time) unfortunately. Some shots of the 360CS vs the 996 GT3 would be cool too or the Morgan 3W with the E type facing off.
Thank you RS4SPD, I never knew the actual differences other than the updated body work.
I know that this can result in my CL license being revoked but up until a date that I will never admit to ago, it never really dawned on me that the 12cyl was flat. Again....Ferrari = Awesome
i read/saw somewhere that an iphone usb to audio jack with the ferrari logo on it cost somewhere around $700....factory original
...also the original 'rossa was best
I always loved the look of the 512TR. A friend of mine got to do a mountain drive (well, ride along) in one when I was young and his telling of the story certainly left an impression. The first time I saw one driving on the road myself, I was blown away by how truly low they are compared to other cars. A big part is just the visual picture when driving behind it with how low the rear deck is. I also recall a Car and Driver article from around 1992 where they drove one coast to coast, hitting 140mph or something along the way for long enough for the classic Ferrari "SLOW DOWN" light to illuminate, which I believe was to prevent the catalytic converters from overheating during sustained high speed driving. It's truly a legendary car.
That said... this is the fitment to expect of older Ferrari's:
I may be the odd man out, but I always found the F512M to be wretchedly ugly. The modern front bumper on the angular body, the wheels that absolutely don't mesh with the overall style of the vehicle and the rear lights that seem shoehorned into the rear of the vehicle. Then you have the exposed lights -- it's like a rickety bridge from the 80s to the 90s.
Stylistically, it's the Godfather III of the trilogy.
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"Of course that's just my opinion; I could be wrong."
Originally Posted by The Igneous FactionOriginally Posted by WhistlerYOW
Mechanically, I think the 512M is a masterpiece. Stylistically? Ehhhhhhhh. I think the taillight treatment looks tacked on, and the front bumper reminds me of the last couple of years of any car run, just trying a bit too hard to modernize an old shape. I do like the fact that later cars had such a beautiful and varied color palate. Light colors just WORK on that body. You also have to appreciate that Ferrari kept up development on an aging warhorse, especially with an engine that had it's roots in late 60's/early 70's F1 and Sports Car technology.