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    Thread: The brakes of the MK4 platform - OEM and Upgrades

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      02-20-2005 04:38 PM #76
      The OEM R32 big brake kit can be bought from Parts4VWs.com for around $900
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    3. 02-21-2005 12:48 AM #77
      Quote, originally posted by SoCalDubber »
      The OEM R32 big brake kit can be bought from Parts4VWs.com for around $900

      That's just the front though, right?

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      02-21-2005 02:00 PM #78
      Quote, originally posted by Jetta_1.8Tip »
      That's just the front though, right?
      Yes. The R32 big brake kit from Parts4VWs and Autotech are the front brakes only. However, Parts4VWs include ATE Blue fluid and brake lines. (i.e. better buy and more items included)
      FYI: The rear brakes on the R32 are dimensionally the same as the 337/20th/GLI rears (10.1 vented rear with single piston).

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      03-07-2005 02:50 PM #79
      please verify the wilwood 12.19 kit.. I have some sources claiming that you can still fit 15" wheels on this setup.
      Thanks!
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      03-07-2005 04:13 PM #80
      Unfortunately, the information for this list comes from the vendors themselves. I have tried to find as much information as possbile. Therefore, the best way to verify a specific fitment is to ask someone who has the brakes or to ask the manufacturer.

    8. 07-01-2005 10:31 PM #81
      Quote, originally posted by genxguy »
      12.3" (312mm) OEM Front Brake Upgrades w/OEM Calipers
      12.3" (312mm) OEM Front Brake Upgrades $350+
      Comes with: Caliper Carriers, vented Rotors, Pads
      Requires: 16"+ wheels and Installation
      Does the factory 16'' spare work with the 12.3's, just curious if i should use my rotors that i won...I run a staggered wheel set up so if it doesn't work with the spare i would have no way of changing a flat on the front. I have the 11's on the front right now and need new rotors, so was going to go ahead and buy the carriers to do the upgrade.


      Modified by REMS18T at 10:32 PM 7-1-2005

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      09-05-2005 10:35 AM #82
      Just a small correction to the original post that started this thread. The 2.0/TDI front rotors are 280mm x 22mm.

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      10-29-2005 12:06 AM #83
      Don't want this info to get lost:
      MkIV brake combos for production vehicles (including most European models):
      R32/TT-3.2/NB-RSi: 13.1" front, 10.1" rear
      TT/S3-225HP/20AE/337/25AE/GLI/NB-VR5: 12.3" front, 10.1" rear
      TT-180HP AWD: 12.3" front, 9.4" rear
      TT-180HP FWD: 12.3" front, 9.1" rear
      VR6/1.8T 11.3" front, 9.1" rear
      1.6/2.0/TDI: 11.0" front, 9.1" rear
      1.4: 10.1" front, 9.1" rear
      9.1"/9.4" are solid, all others are vented. 13.1" rotors have curved vanes.
      All associated calipers are single-piston design except 13.1" which are dual-piston.



      Modified by phatvw at 8:09 PM 10-26-2007

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      01-02-2006 11:39 PM #84
      Quote, originally posted by eggroller »
      On GTI 337 & 20th Anniversary Editions they are:
      The Front brakes are 312mm x 25mm (12.3" x .98") Vented Rotors w/1 piston Red calipers and carriers.
      The Rear brakes are 256mm x 20mm (10.1" x .79") Vented Rotors
      On R32s they are:
      The Front brakes are 334mm x 25mm (13.15" x .98") Vented 2-piece Rotors w/2 piston Blue calipers
      The Rear brakes are 256mm x 20mm (10.1" x .79") Vented Rotors

      Are you sure the rear vented rotors are 20mm thick????
      I'm reading 22mm thick with a wear limit @ 20mm.

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      01-02-2006 11:42 PM #85
      Quote, originally posted by phatvw »
      Don't want this info to get lost:
      MkIV brake combos for production vehicles (including most European models):
      R32/TT32/NB-RSi: 13.1" front, 10.1" rear
      TT-AWD/20AE/337/25AE/GLI/NB-VR5: 12.3" front, 10.1" rear
      TT-FWD: 12.3" front, 9.1" rear
      VR6/1.8T 11.3" front, 9.1" rear
      1.6/2.0/TDI: 11.0" front, 9.1" rear
      1.4: 10.1" front, 9.1" rear
      9.1" are solid, all others are vented. 13.1" rotors have curved vanes.

      I believe the TT-AWD - 180HP = 9.1" solid rear
      and TT-AWD-225HP = 10.1" vented

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      01-03-2006 08:00 PM #86
      Quote, originally posted by elRey »
      I believe the TT-AWD - 180HP = 9.1" solid rear
      and TT-AWD-225HP = 10.1" vented

      That is correct.

    14. 01-04-2006 02:15 PM #87
      Good thread! The GTI I have is my first, and is a dedicated track car. My daily drivers is my 993TT and the brakes are on this car are outstanding.
      I can validate the ECS St3 Kit is exactly what I have on mine. Does anyone know if they do the rear setup as well? If not I might have to do the AP F/R kit.

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      05-16-2006 04:25 PM #88
      This thread helped greatly. Much deserved bump.

    16. 06-13-2006 12:51 AM #89
      free bump, GREAT info [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      08-26-2006 04:47 PM #90
      Quote, originally posted by elRey »
      Are you sure the rear vented rotors are 20mm thick????
      I'm reading 22mm thick with a wear limit @ 20mm.

      That is absolutely right. The rear vented rotors are 256mmx22mm according to the ETKA

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      08-26-2006 05:41 PM #91
      Just FYI, just putting on the front R32 brakes on your Mk4 changes your stock brake bias forward drastically.

    19. 07-25-2007 09:35 PM #92
      wow great post thanks
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    20. 08-05-2007 06:43 PM #93
      subscribed - [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    21. 08-15-2007 10:38 PM #94
      hey, wondering if you could help me out, i bought the tt brakes/ ro rotors front and rear to put on my 05 gti. front work but rears rotors dont sit correctly. do i just need the 20th, gli rear calliper ? meaning the rear caliper/ carrier on the tt is different?

    22. 08-16-2007 09:34 AM #95
      Quote, originally posted by Demon_S8 »
      hey, wondering if you could help me out, i bought the tt brakes/ ro rotors front and rear to put on my 05 gti. front work but rears rotors dont sit correctly. do i just need the 20th, gli rear calliper ? meaning the rear caliper/ carrier on the tt is different?

      are the rear rotors the 10.1" vented rotors? if so, then yes you need to upgrade your rear calipers to accomdate the larger rotor. i believe the 20th/gli rear calipers are the same as the tt225 calipers. check the first post within this thread for more information. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    23. 08-17-2007 12:26 PM #96
      yeah, i got bothe the calliper and carrier form the vented tt. it seems like the tt's carrier is about 1/4 inch inward compared to the 20th,337 etc. i guess that why ecs sells there tt upgrade with a spacer. i was un aware of thisprior to purchasing the tt brakes all around. does any one here have the measuremnets of this spacer and is willing to share it????

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      08-17-2007 03:56 PM #97
      My ECS spacers are 5.5mm thick, which works, but they really should be 6mm to be centered about the rotor properly:
      https://forums.vwvortex.com/zer...42859
      https://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3300252


      Modified by phatvw at 1:02 PM 8-17-2007

    25. 08-19-2007 06:56 PM #98
      your the best. i notice that your rotor is a hair away from touching the carrier just like mine. what i did was got a file and took of a bit. just enough that 3-4 hairs could fit lol. thanks for the info again 6mm it is

    26. 03-11-2009 08:13 PM #99
      What OEM brand are the front and the rear brake rotors by Golf 4 TDI 1,9 l, 74 kw (101 HP) 2003?
      Are they ATE (front) and Lucas (rear)?
      Please just certain answer from whose who know it!


      Modified by iulian2476 at 5:20 PM 3-11-2009

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      03-21-2009 04:14 AM #100
      Quote, originally posted by phatvw »
      All the retailers I've seen (including the forum sponsor ECSTuuning) sell the same brake pads for the Audi TT 180hp/225hp as they do for the VW 1.8T/VR6 models. I believe the pad area is identical. The part numbers for the calipers may be different, but I'm pretty sure they are interchangeable.

      Quote, originally posted by ECStuning »
      288mm or 312mm rotors only

      ECStuning is showing that the 288mm and 312mm pads work together. Can anyone verify the 20th 10.1mm and mk4 rear pads are the same?
      Also I've been trying to look everywhere to see if the brake hoses are the same in the 20th as the rest of the mk4 platform.
      Last, does anyone know if the 20th's have brake pad wear sensors?

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