Good buy if cheaper than the Golf R (which I think it will be) since it is FWD.
My money would still be on the Focus RS, doe.
All this whinging about it's look is making me want to do a Venn diagram of the people who complain that the Civic looks overdone and also think the Golf R looks too normal.
You know what, if this was on a slower car, you guys might have had a point. Unfortunately for you guys, this car can do all the things that the little bobbles and bingles "hint" at i.e. beat any other car in the $30-$40k price range on the track and then some. So beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, but rice is what ya'll got stuck in your nether regions.
This is the kind of car that wears ugly like a badge of honor.
The cars you mention (including the ITR) manage to pull off functional aerodynamics without looking cartoonish at the same time. Bonus points to them.With this logic, you better hate the GT350, Z28, Z06, and every other car with performance aero on the street. Your use of quotation marks suggests that you're not even sure the aero pieces work. Even on the DC2R the front lip and rear wing were functional.
In any case, you're far more triggered about this than you should be. I merely suggested that removing the garish wing isn't going to turn it into a death trap around town. Relax.
17 gti sport | 16 xc60 t5 | seventwosix
And yes, that was the factory wing for the 99 Si. I'm not here to say the 2017 looks as boring as the Golf R by any means, but the big wings on the ITR & Si were very much well outside the norm when they came out 20 and 18 years ago respectively.
I didn't think there were any others like me.....all the way down to the new turbo (aka not the glorious non turbo I would love to see again).
I'm of absolutely no doubt that it will be a VERY good, VERY fast, VERY capable car....but it's not likely to be the Type R I fell for. (the looks are fine to me, they serve a purpose, go fast)
I still firmly believe that the original Integra Type R is one of the greatest cars ever engineered, and likely Honda's best (NSX is next, and extremely close).
It's great if a car looks great and drives great too. If a car performs better than it looks, I can and do forgive it's visual shortcomings for the drive. As much as I love my Fiesta ST, it can be polarizing. My sis digs the car, it's a blast to drive, she hates the looks!
As far as the 2017 Honda Civic Type R goes, remember I'm using the Fiesta ST as a barometer here, Ha! When I saw a picture if the red one ZPayne posted, I thought it wasn't half bad. The bright color brings out nice details around the fake black vents, like the inlets behind the fog lights. Compared to my Fiesta ST, it looks busy and yet purposeful and mean:
About that rear. I want to drive this new Type R in a bad way and I stand behind my statement above, if it drives as well as the hype, then it is better than it's ugly parts. But wow, that rear and wing appendage does push the limit doesn't it? It's the auto equivalent of writing in all caps! You gonna pull up at Aunt Edna's funeral in that thing? Well, I would, Auntie would understand. So relent the argument about the rear. That... that is an ugly thing. Still would drive it, yes, would thank you for not looking at my rear. It's not my fault, Honda made it that way. Parked side by side, my FiST is so subdued.
Funny thing, sis is in the market now for a new car and is looking at the A3 and Lexus IS 350. We talk cars and she made an off comment about how the new Civic didn't look too bad. I'm going to show her this new Type R and hope that she loves it, buys it so I can drive it. Don't judge me.