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    1. Member David9962000's Avatar
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      05-18-2020 12:52 PM #1401
      Any personal experience with the 2020's?

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    3. 05-18-2020 04:24 PM #1402
      Quote Originally Posted by AZGolf View Post
      So Car and Driver has a long term test one and they just posted a photo of theirs on 18s for winter tires. I have to say, I really, really like the look of the car on these smaller wheels better than the stock ones. If they ever come down to sane prices at some point on the used market I might be seriously tempted.



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      Without the rear wing this would be great.

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      05-18-2020 05:32 PM #1403
      Quote Originally Posted by chopWet View Post
      Without the rear wing this would be great.
      No wing means no downforce which means more racetrack crashing!

    5. 05-18-2020 05:50 PM #1404
      Id probably have to ripoff that tacky looking stick on rear fender flare

    6. 06-04-2020 01:37 AM #1405
      Limited to 100 units

      As the top-of-the-lineup performance variant, the Civic Type R is already a rarified vehicle, and Honda added to the car's legendary mystique with a limited-edition model for 2021. The Canadian market was restricted to only 100 examples of the special edition, and all 100 recently sold out within four minutes of the order books opening. That's quicker than the 2017 Type R's Nürburgring lap record.

      The 2021 Type R LE, which is offered exclusively in Phoenix Yellow, offers slight apperance tweaks, as well as a lighter overall package. It features 20-inch BBS lightweight forged aluminum wheels that reduce unsprung weight by 18 pounds total, and those wheels are wrapped in Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 rubber. Weight has further been cut by reducing the use of sound-deadening materials, though Honda does not get into details about where the materials were affected.

      Contrasting with the bright heritage paint job, the Type R LE has a black roof, black side mirror caps, and a black hood intake. In addition to the red Honda badges on every Type R, this model also has a rear CIVIC badge with a dark chrome treatment.

      Under the hood, the power remains the same. The LE has a turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder that makes 306 horsepower at 6,500 rpm and 295 lb-ft of torque at 2,500 rpm. It's linked to a six-speed manual transmission with rev-matching, and power is funneled to the front wheels.

      Honda confirmed in a press release this week that all 100 examples of the 2021 Type R LE allotted for Canada sold out in four minutes through an online eCommerce website. According to Automotive News Canada, buyers were required to put down a $1,000 deposit for the pre-sale.

      The U.S. market will get 600 units of the Type R LE, but that doesn't mean they'll be easy to get. Talk to a local dealership now for pricing and availability.
      https://www.autoblog.com/2020/06/03/...e-r-sells-out/











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      06-04-2020 09:38 AM #1406
      Quote Originally Posted by David9962000 View Post
      Any personal experience with the 2020's?
      I picked one up in Championship White last weekend. So far I'm absolutely in love with it. I've wanted one of these since they came out, but at first the lack of a volume knob and adaptive cruise held me back. Now it has both, and the new bumper looks much better without all the fake honeycomb. I will be replacing the 20" wheels with 18" once I kill the tires.
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      06-04-2020 01:51 PM #1407
      Quote Originally Posted by David9962000 View Post
      Any personal experience with the 2020's?
      I bought a black one last week, any questions I can answer?

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      06-04-2020 03:59 PM #1409
      Why does he wear a mask at the beginning? There's no one else around except for the camera guy.
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      06-04-2020 09:21 PM #1410
      Quote Originally Posted by Seabird View Post
      Why does he wear a mask at the beginning? There's no one else around except for the camera guy.
      Probably to encourage his followers to wear masks in general. I can dig it.
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      06-05-2020 06:29 AM #1411
      Quote Originally Posted by Seabird View Post
      Why does he wear a mask at the beginning? There's no one else around except for the camera guy.
      Because you're a horrible person if you don't play along with the charade.

      The blue looks amazing. Those wheels are perfect. Front bumper is a huge improvement
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      06-05-2020 10:42 AM #1412
      Quote Originally Posted by ROCKCENTER View Post
      I bought a black one last week, any questions I can answer?
      yeah, can I have it?
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      06-07-2020 10:51 AM #1413
      Quote Originally Posted by ROCKCENTER View Post
      I bought a black one last week, any questions I can answer?
      Does it have rev hang?

      And when you turn off some of the driver assist do they come back on the next time you start the car or they stay off?

      Thank you.

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      06-07-2020 11:58 AM #1414
      Glad people on here are starting to come around. I know the looks are still a bit much for most, but once you can look past that for it’s performance & value its a great car. 1+ year and Im still enjoying every drive.


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      06-07-2020 05:04 PM #1415
      Quote Originally Posted by David9962000 View Post
      Does it have rev hang?

      And when you turn off some of the driver assist do they come back on the next time you start the car or they stay off?

      Thank you.
      If it has rev hang it doesn’t impact my driving habits at all. I know it has a single mass flywheel, I suspect this helps eliminate it. It’s been hot, so I’ve had AC on the entire time I’ve been driving it so far, so that could be masking some hang.

      I haven’t turned the driving assists off yet. They appear to be mostly non-intrusive. I haven’t had the collision avoidance kick in yet. I have gotten a couple of false alarm brake alert messages, but I know there is an adjustment for the sensitivity and I haven’t changed it from the default yet. If you don’t want adaptive cruise, you can convert it to standard cruise. If you don’t want lane keep, just don’t turn it on. It has to be enabled each time you want to use it. I used both systems on the 250 mile drive home from the dealer, and found them to really help reduce the stress of interstate driving. I’m a fan.

      There are buttons to disable collision avoidance and road departure. I know the road departure does not turn itself back on after a re-start, but I haven’t turned the collision off yet, so I can’t comment on that.
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      06-07-2020 05:07 PM #1416
      Quote Originally Posted by Spike Ti View Post
      Glad people on here are starting to come around. I know the looks are still a bit much for most, but once you can look past that for it’s performance & value its a great car. 1+ year and Im still enjoying every drive.

      What wheels and tires? I’m wanting to go to 18’s for daily driving and hang on to the stock 20’s for SCCA classing.
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    18. 06-07-2020 06:02 PM #1417
      Quote Originally Posted by Spike Ti View Post
      Glad people on here are starting to come around. I know the looks are still a bit much for most, but once you can look past that for it’s performance & value its a great car. 1+ year and Im still enjoying every drive.

      That looks super sweet! Nice pic with the light and the angle

      I like the boldness of the design, inside and out.

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      06-07-2020 07:02 PM #1418
      Quote Originally Posted by dwagner88 View Post
      What wheels and tires? I’m wanting to go to 18’s for daily driving and hang on to the stock 20’s for SCCA classing.
      Im running SSR SP5’s. 18x9.5 +35 with Firehawk Indy 500’s. I always wanted baller three-piece wheels lol. For performance & value Titan 7’s se

      Quote Originally Posted by Burnette View Post
      That looks super sweet! Nice pic with the light and the angle

      I like the boldness of the design, inside and out.
      Thanks! It definitely took me a while to come around to the looks, but after I drove one I had to have it. The rear def takes more getting used to, but the wing makes it look better than the Sport Hatch imo.

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      06-07-2020 08:29 PM #1419
      Quote Originally Posted by David9962000 View Post
      Does it have rev hang?
      Type R engine doesn't rev hang.
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    21. 06-10-2020 03:23 AM #1420
      When does it go on sale in the US?

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      07-02-2020 03:14 PM #1421
      I've had my 2020 for a month now, and this past weekend, I autocrossed for the first time in my life in it. Results were pretty good:



      Everything is still 100% stock, but I'm buying autocross legal 19" wheels and Bridgestone RE-71R's for events. The stock conti's are great on the road, but they aren't going to hold up to autoX abuse. The car was great. If I could fault it in any way, I would say that it definitely has more turbo lag than my old GTI did. You can account for that lag by hammering the throttle a little earlier than expected on corner exit, and the magic suspension and LSD takes care of the rest. I'm really looking forward to the next event.

      Oh, I can also report that for some reason, this car is very cheap to insure. I can't imagine why, but I'm paying far less for it than I have for any other car I've ever owned.
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    23. 07-09-2020 01:29 PM #1422


      The 2021 Honda Civic Type R Limited Edition takes the Type R formula to a slightly higher level, and Honda set out to prove it on the racetrack. We all know how dear the Suzuka Circuit in Japan is to Honda — remember Ayrton Senna’s NSX-R lap in loafers? And now Honda has taken to the same track to set the front-wheel-drive production car lap record.

      To nobody’s surprise, the Type R Limited Edition did set the new record at 2:23.993. It beat the Renault Megane RS Trophy-R by about a second and a half around the technical circuit. That Renault is also the current front-drive record holder at the Nürburgring, so we’ll give you one guess as to where Honda is taking this car next. Honda hasn’t claimed that it will break any lap records, but its status as the best Type R for the track is quite suggestive, and we totally expect the company to be back on the Nordschleife soon.

      This Suzuka lap record was broken back in February during testing of the new Type R. Technically, it was a Euro-spec development car, but Honda claims it was set up with the exact specifications as the production vehicle with no modifications or performance enhancements. We’ll note that the European-spec car comes standard with no air conditioning or infotainment system, making it 35 pounds lighter than the car we’re getting that adds that equipment back in. That poundage probably wouldn’t make much of a difference over the short lap, but hundredths and thousandths of a second are important when we’re talking lap records.

      Honda says all the changes made for the Limited Edition help it get around the track quicker — you can get the deep dive on the car itself and more photos from our reveal post. However, Honda didn't mention how much quicker it was than a standard 2020 Type R. There will be 600 of the Limited Edition models coming to the U.S. in total, and they’re due to arrive this summer. Allotments in Canada sold out within four minutes, so if you want one, it’s monumentally important to act quickly.
      https://www.autoblog.com/2020/07/09/...dition-suzuka/

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      07-31-2020 10:29 PM #1423
      https://www.edmunds.com/hatchback/ar...oper-works-gp/

      This is the first comparison test I’ve seen with the 2020 CTR. I know the Civic’s styling is an acquired taste, but whoever designed the fender flares for that Mini needs to be canned immediately. It is impressively quick 0-60 and 1/4 mile, but BMW didn’t put as much time into the chassis as Honda, and it shows.
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    25. 07-31-2020 10:51 PM #1424
      Quote Originally Posted by dwagner88 View Post
      https://www.edmunds.com/hatchback/ar...oper-works-gp/

      This is the first comparison test I’ve seen with the 2020 CTR. I know the Civic’s styling is an acquired taste, but whoever designed the fender flares for that Mini needs to be canned immediately. It is impressively quick 0-60 and 1/4 mile, but BMW didn’t put as much time into the chassis as Honda, and it shows.
      Mini disappoints on so many levels. I actually like the look of the GP if it were deep black. But yeah, heavy torque steer, overly harsh ride, took the rear seats out, an auto and a bad one at that, eight grand more, only awesome in a straight line on a tabletop road...

      CTR all day

      Oh, and congrats on your autocross outing. I have to get an automotive life at some point.

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      07-31-2020 11:11 PM #1425
      Quote Originally Posted by dwagner88 View Post
      I've had my 2020 for a month now, and this past weekend, I autocrossed for the first time in my life in it. Results were pretty good:



      Everything is still 100% stock, but I'm buying autocross legal 19" wheels and Bridgestone RE-71R's for events. The stock conti's are great on the road, but they aren't going to hold up to autoX abuse. The car was great. If I could fault it in any way, I would say that it definitely has more turbo lag than my old GTI did. You can account for that lag by hammering the throttle a little earlier than expected on corner exit, and the magic suspension and LSD takes care of the rest. I'm really looking forward to the next event.

      Oh, I can also report that for some reason, this car is very cheap to insure. I can't imagine why, but I'm paying far less for it than I have for any other car I've ever owned.
      I'd venture the insurance likes all the fancy gizmos honda throws in to prevent accidents. That and the pricepoint puts it a bit out of reach of a lot of the younger drivers who tend to crash these sort of cars.

      That's awesome btw, congrats on your autox result! I always want to try autocrossing but I am always worried I'll mess up my car or embarass myself lol.
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