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      03-07-2017 08:05 PM #1
      After 3 years of patience this coming weekend will be start of the 81 rebuild. Will be creating thread to keep all posted on progress as I have booked a room at the Mariot for Cincy and am really hoping the body is as good as it looks and that the repaint and reassembly can happen in time. Picture of before ( looks better by far than it really is)



      Question is for those who have done a complete strip before is there anything in particular to be careful of as I would hate to snap or break something which is next to impossible to replace. Any wisdom would be appreciated!
      Last edited by Brixy; 07-13-2017 at 04:10 PM.

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      03-07-2017 08:23 PM #2
      Nice one!
      I wouldn't worry about breaking stuff: You will, and you will be stronger for taking it on...

      The only thing I would take care of is the windshield
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      03-07-2017 10:14 PM #3
      Complete tear down and resto in time for this year's Cincy seems optimistic...

      But yeah, watch the windshield.
      It's hard for me to know exactly what these things cost me. I'm guessing a LOT, but I like them, so that's that.

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      03-07-2017 10:24 PM #4
      and don't mess up those body side mouldings

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      03-07-2017 10:45 PM #5
      Thanks for the advice. I am stripping it with the help of a 30 plus year mechanic friend who hopefully recalls all the little tricks. He has suggested getting Speedy glass or other professional windshield company to full the front and rear glass.

      If I had taken the picture from the other side you could have seen the passenger door window you shipped me over a year ago!

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      03-07-2017 10:46 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by 81MarsRedS View Post
      and don't mess up those body side mouldings
      I think i saw somewhere a tip on removing these involving a thin metal wire to cut thought he glue without distorting the trim.

    9. 03-07-2017 11:03 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by echassin View Post
      Complete tear down and resto in time for this year's Cincy seems optimistic...
      Overly.
      As we type, it's what... < 3 months away.
      no one cares what you think in real life...
      how do you figure the internet makes it any better.

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      03-08-2017 06:41 AM #8
      Also the "hockey stick molding"around the rear quarter window: these are in place with H clips; they might be brittle with age; they are hens teeth, take care on those...
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      03-08-2017 07:51 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by fredybender View Post
      Also the "hockey stick molding"around the rear quarter window: these are in place with H clips; they might be brittle with age; they are hens teeth, take care on those...
      If I break one or two is there any source for these? Maybe Tech53 should make them if not

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      03-08-2017 09:45 AM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by Brixy View Post
      I think i saw somewhere a tip on removing these involving a thin metal wire to cut thought he glue without distorting the trim.
      That's how mine were done. Having this ready by Cincy? Too ambitious IMHO. Best off dealing with mechanical stuff now, enjoying it for the summer, then tear into it this coming winter. My restoration is in its second year and I'm not even painting this time around.
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      03-08-2017 09:55 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by vwleadfoot View Post
      That's how mine were done. Having this ready by Cincy? Too ambitious IMHO. Best off dealing with mechanical stuff now, enjoying it for the summer, then tear into it this coming winter. My restoration is in its second year and I'm not even painting this time around.
      I know how ambitious it is but I am hoping (foolishly probably) that it goes smoothly and I have always found (being in the house building business) that having a drop dead date tends to get things done otherwise "what's the rush?".

      If it comes down to it I will be attending Cincy with one of the other toys (either the 85 CJ7 or the 1970 Austin Mini) as they could use a road trip greater than to work and back.

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      03-08-2017 03:34 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Brixy View Post
      I am hoping ... that it goes smoothly
      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHhaaahhhaaaaahaaaa ha ha ha, *cough*, ha ha *wipes away tears*.

      With a Mk1?

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      No.
      It's hard for me to know exactly what these things cost me. I'm guessing a LOT, but I like them, so that's that.

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      03-08-2017 03:55 PM #13
      Having done this about 50 times....

      Clips that hold the hockey sticks over the rear windows.
      Side mouldings rarely come off intact.
      Clips that hold the spacer over the front and rear bumpers are very fragile
      The sliding clips on the front bumper either come off super easy or twist off and break
      Any of the window gaskets are fraught with destructive danger.
      The aluminum surrounds/gap fillers on the windows are super easy to f-up.
      The sawtooth retainers under the windshield will probabbly be mostly destroyed...don't fret you don't need them.
      Rear hook latch on the tailgate can be broken easily plastic retainer clips behind.
      Warm up the washer nozzle underside with a heat gun and pinch the clips...udder-vise....TINK!
      Lower Side moulding clips....good luck!

      that's all I can think of....not a terrible job....about 4 hours.
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      03-08-2017 10:17 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by echassin View Post
      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHhaaahhhaaaaahaaaa ha ha ha, *cough*, ha ha *wipes away tears*.

      With a Mk1?

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      No.
      ^^^^^^this = truth
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      03-08-2017 10:23 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by vwleadfoot View Post
      ^^^^^^this = truth
      Sounds like game is on. Hope I don't end up with egg on my face!

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      03-18-2017 11:29 PM #16
      Seats now at upholsterer and car should be to body shop this week. Still hopeful I can get her back by Cincy. Was spending quality time with one of the other toys today awaiting spring in Canada.

      Last edited by Brixy; 07-14-2017 at 11:18 AM.

    19. 03-18-2017 11:33 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Brixy View Post
      Was spending quality time with one of the other toys today awaiting spring in Canada.
      I like it.

      Seems a little under-equipped with lighting though.
      no one cares what you think in real life...
      how do you figure the internet makes it any better.

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      03-18-2017 11:45 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by DiezNutz View Post
      I like it.

      Seems a little under-equipped with lighting though.
      You know how Harley drivers love their loud pipes as a way to be heard if not seen. When you are tiny it is advantages to be well lit!

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      03-19-2017 12:22 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by echassin View Post
      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHhaaahhhaaaaahaaaa ha ha ha, *cough*, ha ha *wipes away tears*.

      With a Mk1?

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      No.

      LOL!!!!!!!!!!!


      I picked up my car in October last year, started tearing down a bit here and there and then hit it HARD in November. She went to paint the first week of January and is still there (Had rust to treat and cut/weld).
      Interior appointment is next week but car is still in paint so seats and carpet are going.

      Rear window and Windshield appointment was the 31st but....it's been pushed back.

      Meanwhile a superb VW mechanic down in Lakewood (Tacoma) is building my engine, or at least doing the machine work.

      I'm just hoping to have my car going by May at this rate, we are at teh bottom end of tear down and will soon be building up.

      6 months - and that's if everything goes smooth and there's no rust!!

      Or, if you have a buddy helping you can cut the time a bit. The only thing I did not remove was the dash and it may still come out.
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    22. 03-19-2017 12:20 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by Brixy View Post
      You know how Harley drivers love their loud pipes as a way to be heard if not seen. When you are tiny it is advantages to be well lit!
      Absolutely.

      One of my best friends and aircooled VW/Harley owners has those "Loud Pipes Save Lives" stickers.
      [Applies to his bikes as well as his flat fours with open-pipe stinger exhausts.]
      no one cares what you think in real life...
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      03-19-2017 10:28 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by sciroccohal View Post
      not a terrible job....about 4 hours.
      It takes 4 hours just to cut the fenders free, and you still have the rest of the car to go.
      It's hard for me to know exactly what these things cost me. I'm guessing a LOT, but I like them, so that's that.

    24. 03-19-2017 11:50 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by echassin View Post
      It takes 4 hours just to cut the fenders free, and you still have the rest of the car to go.
      surgical precision.
      no one cares what you think in real life...
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      03-20-2017 09:38 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by echassin View Post
      It takes 4 hours just to cut the fenders free.......
      I know you're an expert on this now and I know these things are tough to remove, but can you recommend any tricks or ways to prevent ufking things up? I was so worried I'd screw up my RF fender, I literally cut all the rust out and welded the patch panel in place rather the pulling the fender. It worked and looks really good, but I still like to know how to properly (if there is such a thing) way to pull one of these.

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      03-20-2017 01:02 PM #25
      There are three bolts on the pillar that you can reach behind the tire. The top row of bolts, front 2 bolts (or is it 3?).
      Oh yeah, don't forget the one on bottom just in front of door/fender seam.

      Then, if it's sealed properly you get a nice thin putty knife and begin sliding under the lip..

      I think it only took about an hour to break mine free, it had never been removed, and maybe 15 minutes on the other one because FO had removed it and not sealed it.

      Passenger side, reach up and undo the strap on the plastic (Vacuum?) container, there is a bolt behind it you need access to.
      Correction on the 15 minutes, I stared at it for 20, you'll need to undo the nut on the evap container strap to get the evap container out (Plastic tub thing).
      Last edited by scotttu; 03-20-2017 at 01:18 PM.
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