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      04-04-2017 07:37 AM #1
      So the end of my F30 lease is rapidly approaching (07/2017). Unlike a lot of people, I truly enjoyed this car, especially after my supporting mods. However due to life, I need to get a new car. Looking for something fun and practical in the 17-25K range. It must be reasonably reliable in that I don't want long periods of downtime. Should be good in winter. Reasonable fuel economy. Most importantly fun to drive, good modding, aftermarket community. No manuel only options Right now:

      1) VW GTI - I know very little about this car except all the rave reviews online. I haven't driven one. But it falls pretty easily in my budget. Debating whether I would get a 2013-2014 one or buy a new one.

      2) VW Golf R - 2012-2013. Again don't know very much about this car. But being that its a higher horsepower Golf that can't be too bad.

      3) 2012-2013 BMW 335I - would have no problem getting one. Platform I'm used to. Might be a little pricier than I'd like

      4) Infiniti G37X - Reliable Japanese Engineering. Don't particularly like how the car looks though.

      5) Mini Cooper Clubman S.

      Any other cars I should be looking at. Primarily this will be a daily driver, as in the upcoming years I'd like to swap my Ecoboost with a GT or maybe a C7.
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      04-04-2017 07:44 AM #2
      "Looking for something fun and practical in the 17-25K range"

      = CPO Fiesta STs can be had for like 15k. Do that.

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      04-04-2017 07:49 AM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by TooFitToQuit View Post
      "Looking for something fun and practical in the 17-25K range"

      = CPO Fiesta STs can be had for like 15k. Do that.
      Must clarify - no manuels.

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      04-04-2017 08:08 AM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by bahasad View Post
      Must clarify - no manuels.
      Then no Golf R - the 2012/13 model (MK6) were only available in manual
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      04-04-2017 08:37 AM #5
      Go for a new or gently used MK7 GTI S or Sport with the DSG. Blast to toss around in corners, low to mid 30's MPG, good aftermarket, practical, easily fit 4 people in it (5 if one is skinny). Only downside of getting the DSG is that every 40k miles it is recommended to get a transmission fluid flush which can be quite pricey. But the reliability so far has been good.
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      04-04-2017 09:03 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by bahasad View Post
      Must clarify - no manuels.

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      04-04-2017 09:15 AM #7
      the gti/r question is answered with do you need awd? if yes, get used a3 because auto and a buttload cheaper than an r. if no, get a gti.

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      04-04-2017 09:26 AM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by Omega360 View Post
      Go for a new or gently used MK7 GTI S or Sport with the DSG. Blast to toss around in corners, low to mid 30's MPG, good aftermarket, practical, easily fit 4 people in it (5 if one is skinny). Only downside of getting the DSG is that every 40k miles it is recommended to get a transmission fluid flush which can be quite pricey. But the reliability so far has been good.
      Is the Mk7 substantially better than the Mk6? My logic is the Mk7 is around low 20s, and I might as well pay 5 grand more and try to get into a 335i? If i was to get a GTI, I'd prefer to stay on the low side of my budget.

      What about WRX CVT?

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      04-04-2017 10:05 AM #9
      I used to have a stage 2+ mk6 R. Fantastic car. Manual only though.
      The mk6 GTI is also very good, but by most accounts of the Golf R group I still belong to, the mk7 is better pretty much all around.

      Also, don't get a CVT car. It is a truly awful transmission. If you haven't driven one, do so.
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      04-04-2017 10:43 AM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by bahasad View Post
      Is the Mk7 substantially better than the Mk6? My logic is the Mk7 is around low 20s, and I might as well pay 5 grand more and try to get into a 335i? If i was to get a GTI, I'd prefer to stay on the low side of my budget.

      What about WRX CVT?
      The MK7 is substantially better than the MK6. I've seen 2015s with 30-40k listed in the $18k range.

      Don't get a CVT WRX. If you get a WRX, get the manual.

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      04-04-2017 11:05 AM #11
      If you like the current car, why not just buy out the lease? Especially if the payoff is in that range.

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      04-04-2017 11:51 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by IgorRGTI View Post
      If you like the current car, why not just buy out the lease? Especially if the payoff is in that range.
      Because the payoff is far above what the value of the car is (as typically BMWs are).
      Also, wouldn't mind getting something different. This is the longest I've had one single car.

      What about ATS 2.0T? also considering those. Are they reliable and tunable?

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      04-04-2017 12:06 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by bahasad View Post
      Is the Mk7 substantially better than the Mk6? My logic is the Mk7 is around low 20s, and I might as well pay 5 grand more and try to get into a 335i? If i was to get a GTI, I'd prefer to stay on the low side of my budget.

      What about WRX CVT?
      I've ridden in and driven my friends MK6 GTI and he has done the same with my MK7. He LOVES my MK7 and thinks it is better in pretty much every aspect. I can walk him in stock form when his MK6 is at a stage 1 tune and bolt ons.

      In my area, I can find 4 used 2015's in various trims from 16k-30k miles going for $18,000 to $24,000. Lowest new S trim I can find is $23,999.
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      04-04-2017 12:32 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by bahasad View Post
      Because the payoff is far above what the value of the car is (as typically BMWs are).
      It's the opposite here in Canada.

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      04-04-2017 01:56 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by bahasad View Post
      Must clarify - no manuels.
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      sprayed it on, waited some time, and proceeded to go at it with a scraper, some pliers, and a lot of f-ing hard work.

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